Ant <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

> I think I have a dying external HDD in an Antec enclosure (USB).

You into necrophilia ?

> I haven't used it for months until today when I wanted to do some backups.
> http://pastie.org/private/kyewx2ur1w74h5pah6lrdw from gsmartctl v0.8.6-2
> for Windows after an extended self test (supposed to take almost four
> hours to finish).

I don’t find those readable at all, try Everest or HDTune

> Chkdsk, copy, etc. get stuck eventually. I tried two different
> Windows computers too and both had problems with this drive.

> Do I assume this is a physical HDD problem?

Likely given that it’s a WD, but I'd want to see a proper SMART report on
that.

On 8/8/12 12:52 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
> Ant <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>
>> I think I have a dying external HDD in an Antec enclosure (USB).
>
> You into necrophilia ?
>
>> I haven't used it for months until today when I wanted to do some
>> backups.
>> http://pastie.org/private/kyewx2ur1w74h5pah6lrdw from gsmartctl v0.8.6-2
>> for Windows after an extended self test (supposed to take almost four
>> hours to finish).
>
> I don’t find those readable at all, try Everest or HDTune
>
>> Chkdsk, copy, etc. get stuck eventually. I tried two different
>> Windows computers too and both had problems with this drive.
>
>> Do I assume this is a physical HDD problem?
>
> Likely given that it’s a WD, but I'd want to see a proper SMART report
> on that.
>
>

Western Digital sucks?
Since when?

Justin <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On 8/8/12 12:52 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
[...]
>>> Windows computers too and both had problems with this drive.
>>
>>> Do I assume this is a physical HDD problem?
>>
>> Likely given that it?s a WD, but I'd want to see a proper SMART report
>> on that.
>>
>>

> Western Digital sucks?
> Since when?

All consumer drives suck. Some models more, some models less.
Consumer-grade drives are made as chaply as they can get away
with, wich is basically the consumer's fault. The only exception
with regard to reliability may have been Samsung, but that
is over now, I guess.

Arno
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On 8/8/12 1:51 AM, Arno wrote:
> Justin <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> On 8/8/12 12:52 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
> [...]
>>>> Windows computers too and both had problems with this drive.
>>>
>>>> Do I assume this is a physical HDD problem?
>>>
>>> Likely given that it?s a WD, but I'd want to see a proper SMART report
>>> on that.
>>>
>>>
>
>> Western Digital sucks?
>> Since when?
>
> All consumer drives suck. Some models more, some models less.
> Consumer-grade drives are made as chaply as they can get away
> with, wich is basically the consumer's fault. The only exception
> with regard to reliability may have been Samsung, but that
> is over now, I guess.
>
> Arno
>

****.
Talk about a major downer.

Ant <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On 8/7/2012 9:52 PM PT, Rod Speed typed:
[...]
>>> Chkdsk, copy, etc. get stuck eventually. I tried two different
>>> Windows computers too and both had problems with this drive.
>>
>>> Do I assume this is a physical HDD problem?
>>
>> Likely given that it?s a WD, but I'd want to see a proper SMART report
>> on that.

> SmartCtl's results were too technical?

For somebody as clueless as Rod, yes.

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Justin <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Ant <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

>>> I think I have a dying external HDD in an Antec enclosure (USB).

>> You into necrophilia ?

>>> I haven't used it for months until today when I wanted to do some
>>> backups.
>>> http://pastie.org/private/kyewx2ur1w74h5pah6lrdw from gsmartctl v0.8.6-2
>>> for Windows after an extended self test (supposed to take almost four
>>> hours to finish).

>> I don’t find those readable at all, try Everest or HDTune

>>> Chkdsk, copy, etc. get stuck eventually. I tried two different
>>> Windows computers too and both had problems with this drive.

>>> Do I assume this is a physical HDD problem?

>> Likely given that it’s a WD, but I'd want to see a proper SMART report on
>> that.

> Western Digital sucks?

More than Samsung, anyway.

> Since when?

Years now.

On 8/8/12 3:07 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
> Justin <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Ant <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>
>>>> I think I have a dying external HDD in an Antec enclosure (USB).
>
>>> You into necrophilia ?
>
>>>> I haven't used it for months until today when I wanted to do some
>>>> backups.
>>>> http://pastie.org/private/kyewx2ur1w74h5pah6lrdw from gsmartctl
>>>> v0.8.6-2
>>>> for Windows after an extended self test (supposed to take almost four
>>>> hours to finish).
>
>>> I don’t find those readable at all, try Everest or HDTune
>
>>>> Chkdsk, copy, etc. get stuck eventually. I tried two different
>>>> Windows computers too and both had problems with this drive.
>
>>>> Do I assume this is a physical HDD problem?
>
>>> Likely given that it’s a WD, but I'd want to see a proper SMART
>>> report on that.
>
>> Western Digital sucks?
>
> More than Samsung, anyway.
>
>> Since when?
>
> Years now.

That's the pits!
Western Digital is where I keep all my stuff!

Ant <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> I haven't used it for months until today when I wanted to do some
>>> backups.
>>> http://pastie.org/private/kyewx2ur1w74h5pah6lrdw from gsmartctl v0.8.6-2
>>> for Windows after an extended self test (supposed to take almost four
>>> hours to finish).

>> I don’t find those readable at all, try Everest or HDTune

> OK, I assume the old versions again. :/ Also, I ran gsmartctl's extended
> self tests twice. It kept showing the same exact LBA result and at 10%
> done. It seems like something is bad in the spot.

>>> Chkdsk, copy, etc. get stuck eventually. I tried two different
>>> Windows computers too and both had problems with this drive.

>>> Do I assume this is a physical HDD problem?

>> Likely given that it’s a WD, but I'd want to see a proper SMART report on
>> that.

> SmartCtl's results were too technical?

Nar, don’t include the raw data for each field.

Ant <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

>>> I haven't used it for months until today when I wanted to do some
>>> backups.
>>> http://pastie.org/private/kyewx2ur1w74h5pah6lrdw from gsmartctl v0.8.6-2
>>> for Windows after an extended self test (supposed to take almost four
>>> hours to finish).

>> I don't find those readable at all,

That was just my brain fart, missed the scroll bar that hid the raw data.

> try Everest or HDTune

> Very old Everest didn't see the drive. HDTune v5.00 Pro trial did:
> http://i.imgur.com/Pxd9w.gif ...
> It didn't like that UDMA CRC error count.

Likely that as just due to the drive going missing during disk activity.

On 8 Aug 2012 05:51:56 GMT, Arno <(E-Mail Removed)> put finger to
keyboard and composed:

>The only exception with regard to reliability may have been Samsung,
>but that is over now, I guess.

I believe Seagate/Samsung HDDs are still just Samsungs with a Seagate
badge:
http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Barracu...UI/td-p/166118

Seagate are/were saying that they would soon drop Samsung's 3.5"
models but would hang on to their 2.5" drives (because they currently
have a higher data density).

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