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Randy
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      4th Aug 2008
I have a few questions for you. I just recently switched from Thunderbird to
Outlook/Office 2003 so that I can more easily keep my PPC phone synced to my
PC. My questions are regarding IMAP settings.

With Thunderbird, I was able to set the settings so when I delete an email,
it didn't just mark the message deleted and leave it in the inbox, it moved
it to the trash folder on the IMAP server. How do I set this with Outlook?

I have 2 email accounts set up in Outlook, bot using different IMAP servers
and settings. How do I make it so when I send an email from a specific
account, it saves the message in the sent box on the corresponding IMAP
server, instead of the Sent folder listed under "Personal Folders"?

Thanks in advance for your help!

-Randy
 
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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      4th Aug 2008
Current versions of outlook use the purge method, not the deleted items
folder - they are marked deleted and purged when you choose to purge.

Outlook 2003 does not support selecting a sent folder (2007 does). You can
configure rules for messages sent using Account A, sent messages go to
folder A then one for Acct B to folder B. Note that if you disable using the
local sent folder (tools, options, email options) and you lose the
connection to the server, Outlook will not save the sent messages.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:
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EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
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"Randy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1A9B0C77-1E89-4407-9C36-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a few questions for you. I just recently switched from Thunderbird
> to
> Outlook/Office 2003 so that I can more easily keep my PPC phone synced to
> my
> PC. My questions are regarding IMAP settings.
>
> With Thunderbird, I was able to set the settings so when I delete an
> email,
> it didn't just mark the message deleted and leave it in the inbox, it
> moved
> it to the trash folder on the IMAP server. How do I set this with
> Outlook?
>
> I have 2 email accounts set up in Outlook, bot using different IMAP
> servers
> and settings. How do I make it so when I send an email from a specific
> account, it saves the message in the sent box on the corresponding IMAP
> server, instead of the Sent folder listed under "Personal Folders"?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
> -Randy


 
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Randy
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      4th Aug 2008
Well what a pain! I guess those are the answers I was looking for, but
Thunderbird still takes the cake on ease of use and features!

Not bashing Microsoft, because I couldn't live without my computer, but why
is it that free software like Thunderbird has more options (and it's easier
to set those options) than software I have to pay for like Outlook?

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:

> Current versions of outlook use the purge method, not the deleted items
> folder - they are marked deleted and purged when you choose to purge.
>
> Outlook 2003 does not support selecting a sent folder (2007 does). You can
> configure rules for messages sent using Account A, sent messages go to
> folder A then one for Acct B to folder B. Note that if you disable using the
> local sent folder (tools, options, email options) and you lose the
> connection to the server, Outlook will not save the sent messages.
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>
> Outlook Tips by email:
> dailytips-subscribe-(E-Mail Removed)
>
> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-(E-Mail Removed)
>
> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
>
> You can access this newsgroup by visiting
> http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your
> newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.
>
>
> "Randy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1A9B0C77-1E89-4407-9C36-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I have a few questions for you. I just recently switched from Thunderbird
> > to
> > Outlook/Office 2003 so that I can more easily keep my PPC phone synced to
> > my
> > PC. My questions are regarding IMAP settings.
> >
> > With Thunderbird, I was able to set the settings so when I delete an
> > email,
> > it didn't just mark the message deleted and leave it in the inbox, it
> > moved
> > it to the trash folder on the IMAP server. How do I set this with
> > Outlook?
> >
> > I have 2 email accounts set up in Outlook, bot using different IMAP
> > servers
> > and settings. How do I make it so when I send an email from a specific
> > account, it saves the message in the sent box on the corresponding IMAP
> > server, instead of the Sent folder listed under "Personal Folders"?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help!
> >
> > -Randy

>
>

 
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Brian Tillman
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      4th Aug 2008
Randy <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Not bashing Microsoft, because I couldn't live without my computer,
> but why is it that free software like Thunderbird has more options
> (and it's easier to set those options) than software I have to pay
> for like Outlook?


My guess is that IMAP support was never a priority for the Outlook
programmers.
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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      4th Aug 2008
Because thunderbird was made for the casual user and outlook was designed as
the mail client/pim for the corporate world - the original program that
served as the basis for Outlook connected only to Exchange server. The first
Outlook had POP3 (and exchange) only - IMAP support came along later. It
wasn't very good, but they tried their best to adhere to the IMAP RFCs in
use - which was mark deleted and purge, not move to the deleted folder.

If thunderbird meets your needs, by all means use it. Just because you
bought the office suite and it includes outlook doesn't mean you have to use
it - the price of most suites is a good deal for most users - heck, I never
use PowerPoint but I don't consider it wasted software I had to buy because
the other apps in the suite were worth the cost to me. It's like buying in
bulk or shopping at warehouse clubs - I compare the cost of the largest size
with the cost of smaller sizes and figure how much I need to use of the
larger package to break even. As long as we use that much I justify the
wastefulness with the lower cost if we throw out the excess - if we use
more, I come out ahead.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:
dailytips-subscribe-(E-Mail Removed)

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-(E-Mail Removed)

Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


"Randy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:22F8ABA8-CDBC-420B-A47F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Well what a pain! I guess those are the answers I was looking for, but
> Thunderbird still takes the cake on ease of use and features!
>
> Not bashing Microsoft, because I couldn't live without my computer, but
> why
> is it that free software like Thunderbird has more options (and it's
> easier
> to set those options) than software I have to pay for like Outlook?
>
> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Current versions of outlook use the purge method, not the deleted items
>> folder - they are marked deleted and purged when you choose to purge.
>>
>> Outlook 2003 does not support selecting a sent folder (2007 does). You
>> can
>> configure rules for messages sent using Account A, sent messages go to
>> folder A then one for Acct B to folder B. Note that if you disable using
>> the
>> local sent folder (tools, options, email options) and you lose the
>> connection to the server, Outlook will not save the sent messages.
>>
>> --
>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
>> Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
>> Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>>
>> Outlook Tips by email:
>> dailytips-subscribe-(E-Mail Removed)
>>
>> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
>> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-(E-Mail Removed)
>>
>> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
>> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
>>
>> You can access this newsgroup by visiting
>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point
>> your
>> newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.
>>
>>
>> "Randy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:1A9B0C77-1E89-4407-9C36-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I have a few questions for you. I just recently switched from
>> > Thunderbird
>> > to
>> > Outlook/Office 2003 so that I can more easily keep my PPC phone synced
>> > to
>> > my
>> > PC. My questions are regarding IMAP settings.
>> >
>> > With Thunderbird, I was able to set the settings so when I delete an
>> > email,
>> > it didn't just mark the message deleted and leave it in the inbox, it
>> > moved
>> > it to the trash folder on the IMAP server. How do I set this with
>> > Outlook?
>> >
>> > I have 2 email accounts set up in Outlook, bot using different IMAP
>> > servers
>> > and settings. How do I make it so when I send an email from a specific
>> > account, it saves the message in the sent box on the corresponding IMAP
>> > server, instead of the Sent folder listed under "Personal Folders"?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for your help!
>> >
>> > -Randy

>>
>>

 
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Randy
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      4th Aug 2008
Thunderbird DOES suit all my needs, except one thing: it wont sync to my
Windows Mobile PPC phone I have through Verizon. The only thing I need
Thunderbird to do a little more seamlessly is be able to sync my contacts. I
have my email on IMAP through the phone, and through my email client, so I
have no need to sync the email. I don't use the tasks or calender. So, in
essence, the only thing Thunderbird fails at is syncing my contacts.

Mind you, there is a third-party workaround for syncing the contacts through
Thunderbird, but it's complicated and not worth the headache. I'm sure
someone will write a plug-in for Thunderbird that allows such a syncing
between devices.

-Randy

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:

> Because thunderbird was made for the casual user and outlook was designed as
> the mail client/pim for the corporate world - the original program that
> served as the basis for Outlook connected only to Exchange server. The first
> Outlook had POP3 (and exchange) only - IMAP support came along later. It
> wasn't very good, but they tried their best to adhere to the IMAP RFCs in
> use - which was mark deleted and purge, not move to the deleted folder.
>
> If thunderbird meets your needs, by all means use it. Just because you
> bought the office suite and it includes outlook doesn't mean you have to use
> it - the price of most suites is a good deal for most users - heck, I never
> use PowerPoint but I don't consider it wasted software I had to buy because
> the other apps in the suite were worth the cost to me. It's like buying in
> bulk or shopping at warehouse clubs - I compare the cost of the largest size
> with the cost of smaller sizes and figure how much I need to use of the
> larger package to break even. As long as we use that much I justify the
> wastefulness with the lower cost if we throw out the excess - if we use
> more, I come out ahead.
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>
> Outlook Tips by email:
> dailytips-subscribe-(E-Mail Removed)
>
> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-(E-Mail Removed)
>
> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
>
> You can access this newsgroup by visiting
> http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your
> newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.
>
>
> "Randy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:22F8ABA8-CDBC-420B-A47F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Well what a pain! I guess those are the answers I was looking for, but
> > Thunderbird still takes the cake on ease of use and features!
> >
> > Not bashing Microsoft, because I couldn't live without my computer, but
> > why
> > is it that free software like Thunderbird has more options (and it's
> > easier
> > to set those options) than software I have to pay for like Outlook?
> >
> > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Current versions of outlook use the purge method, not the deleted items
> >> folder - they are marked deleted and purged when you choose to purge.
> >>
> >> Outlook 2003 does not support selecting a sent folder (2007 does). You
> >> can
> >> configure rules for messages sent using Account A, sent messages go to
> >> folder A then one for Acct B to folder B. Note that if you disable using
> >> the
> >> local sent folder (tools, options, email options) and you lose the
> >> connection to the server, Outlook will not save the sent messages.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> >> Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> >> Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
> >>
> >> Outlook Tips by email:
> >> dailytips-subscribe-(E-Mail Removed)
> >>
> >> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
> >> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-(E-Mail Removed)
> >>
> >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
> >>
> >> You can access this newsgroup by visiting
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point
> >> your
> >> newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Randy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:1A9B0C77-1E89-4407-9C36-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > I have a few questions for you. I just recently switched from
> >> > Thunderbird
> >> > to
> >> > Outlook/Office 2003 so that I can more easily keep my PPC phone synced
> >> > to
> >> > my
> >> > PC. My questions are regarding IMAP settings.
> >> >
> >> > With Thunderbird, I was able to set the settings so when I delete an
> >> > email,
> >> > it didn't just mark the message deleted and leave it in the inbox, it
> >> > moved
> >> > it to the trash folder on the IMAP server. How do I set this with
> >> > Outlook?
> >> >
> >> > I have 2 email accounts set up in Outlook, bot using different IMAP
> >> > servers
> >> > and settings. How do I make it so when I send an email from a specific
> >> > account, it saves the message in the sent box on the corresponding IMAP
> >> > server, instead of the Sent folder listed under "Personal Folders"?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance for your help!
> >> >
> >> > -Randy
> >>
> >>

>

 
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      4th Aug 2008
Diane Poremsky [MVP] <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> If thunderbird meets your needs, by all means use it.


Yep. Outlook Express's IMAP also supports a Deleted Items folder.
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      4th Aug 2008
How do I set it up then? Now, when I press delete a message, it just puts a
strike-through through the header, and leaves it in the inbox. I can move it
to the trash, then purge the deleted messages in my inbox, but that's such a
hassle. I just want the message to be moved to the trash folder on the IMAP
server when I press to delete a message from my inbox, or any other folder.

"Brian Tillman" wrote:

> Diane Poremsky [MVP] <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > If thunderbird meets your needs, by all means use it.

>
> Yep. Outlook Express's IMAP also supports a Deleted Items folder.
> --
> Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
>

 
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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      5th Aug 2008
Outlook Express is not Outlook.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:
dailytips-subscribe-(E-Mail Removed)

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-(E-Mail Removed)

Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


"Randy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> How do I set it up then? Now, when I press delete a message, it just puts
> a
> strike-through through the header, and leaves it in the inbox. I can move
> it
> to the trash, then purge the deleted messages in my inbox, but that's such
> a
> hassle. I just want the message to be moved to the trash folder on the
> IMAP
> server when I press to delete a message from my inbox, or any other
> folder.
>
> "Brian Tillman" wrote:
>
>> Diane Poremsky [MVP] <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> > If thunderbird meets your needs, by all means use it.

>>
>> Yep. Outlook Express's IMAP also supports a Deleted Items folder.
>> --
>> Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
>>

 
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Randy
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      5th Aug 2008
Ooop.. didn't catch that. Question though... 1) Is there a version for IE7
& Windows Vista? 2) Will it sync contacts w/ my PPC running Windows Mobile
6.1 Pro?

-Randy

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:

> Outlook Express is not Outlook.
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>
> Outlook Tips by email:
> dailytips-subscribe-(E-Mail Removed)
>
> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-(E-Mail Removed)
>
> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
>
> You can access this newsgroup by visiting
> http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your
> newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.
>
>
> "Randy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:CC9629DE-3745-4BB8-BCDF-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > How do I set it up then? Now, when I press delete a message, it just puts
> > a
> > strike-through through the header, and leaves it in the inbox. I can move
> > it
> > to the trash, then purge the deleted messages in my inbox, but that's such
> > a
> > hassle. I just want the message to be moved to the trash folder on the
> > IMAP
> > server when I press to delete a message from my inbox, or any other
> > folder.
> >
> > "Brian Tillman" wrote:
> >
> >> Diane Poremsky [MVP] <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>
> >> > If thunderbird meets your needs, by all means use it.
> >>
> >> Yep. Outlook Express's IMAP also supports a Deleted Items folder.
> >> --
> >> Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
> >>

>

 
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