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kraut
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      21st Apr 2009


In the wife's Vista when I click on some box when I try to access some
of the folders (Does not matter which ones or why I want to look at
them) I get message that I do not have permission to even though I am
set up as the administrator.

First question is why and second question is is there a way to access
them or look in them for whatever reason??

On my XP box I do not have that problem.

TIA


 
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Chad Harris
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"kraut" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In the wife's Vista when I click on some box when I try to access some
> of the folders (Does not matter which ones or why I want to look at
> them) I get message that I do not have permission to even though I am
> set up as the administrator.
>
> First question is why and second question is is there a way to access
> them or look in them for whatever reason??
>
> On my XP box I do not have that problem.
>
> TIA

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Hi Kraut--

The why is a complex question. In Vista, for enhanced security purposes,
MSFT initiated UAC (User Account Control). Here is some short context from
Vista Help's website, and remember you have Vista Help on your Start Menu:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/win....aspx?=&qu=uac

It's been well received by enterprises, and debated by end users. If
you're interested, although their blog has long closed, you can read what
the team that made it described over many months here:

http://blogs.msdn.com/uac/

A short couple articles that context it are these MSKBs:

Description of UAC

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951016

How to use User Account Control (UAC) in Windows Vista

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922708

After You Turn on UAC, Some Programs Can't Access Network Connections

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937624

What vexes most end users, is that they are running as Admins, and they
still can't access folders you need to access. Sometimes it seems you're
locked out at random, although I'm sure there is an elaborate rationale.

I notice when I dual boot, lately I've been locked out of the desktop of the
other boot I like to access.

You could simply disable UAC by typing msconfig into the run
box>tools>disable UAC. It's not advisable because you compromise security.

Other ways to disable UAC:

http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm

Here are two ways to get into the folder you need to get into:

Right click Properties>security tab>edit>add>users>put a check in all
boxes>close>reopen and you should be good to go.

or

Right click Properties>security tab>Advanced button>Owner tab>edit
button>put a check in "replace subcontainers and objects">other users
button>type user name you want to have the permission in the box or simply
"users">ok>apply>ok on the advanced security settings dialogue box.

Good luck,

CH











 
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      21st Apr 2009
"kraut" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In the wife's Vista when I click on some box when I try to access some
> of the folders (Does not matter which ones or why I want to look at
> them)


Err it actually DOES matter which ones.
We can't possibly help unless we know what folders you are trying to access.
My bet is, unless you say otherwise, is that you are trying to access a
JUNCTION POINT.
For example: C:\Documents and Settings is one.
You cannot access these as they do NOT contain anything, but are pointers
for legacy applications.

See here for more info:

Windows Vista Junction Points:

http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/jpoints.htm

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      21st Apr 2009
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:37:17 +0100, "Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>Err it actually DOES matter which ones.
>We can't possibly help unless we know what folders you are trying to access.
>My bet is, unless you say otherwise, is that you are trying to access a
>JUNCTION POINT.
>For example: C:\Documents and Settings is one.
>You cannot access these as they do NOT contain anything, but are pointers
>for legacy applications.


You should still be able to click through into the location being
pointed to. That's the whole idea of a junction point.


>See here for more info:
>
>Windows Vista Junction Points:
>
>http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/jpoints.htm


 
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> You should still be able to click through into the location being
> pointed to. That's the whole idea of a junction point.
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Not really - they are symbolic links, if you're familiar with Unix....

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      22nd Apr 2009
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:26:21 +0100, "Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>"+Bob+" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> You should still be able to click through into the location being
>> pointed to. That's the whole idea of a junction point.
>>

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>
>Not really - they are symbolic links, if you're familiar with Unix....


If I go to an explorer window and double click on c:\documents and
settings, it puts me (effectively) in c:\users. I can see all the
directories and files and manipulate them as needed.


 
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      22nd Apr 2009
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:37:17 +0100, "Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>> In the wife's Vista when I click on some box when I try to access some
>> of the folders (Does not matter which ones or why I want to look at
>> them)


>
>Err it actually DOES matter which ones.
>We can't possibly help unless we know what folders you are trying to access.
>My bet is, unless you say otherwise, is that you are trying to access a
>JUNCTION POINT.
>For example: C:\Documents and Settings is one.
>You cannot access these as they do NOT contain anything, but are pointers
>for legacy applications.



OK. Reason I asked is that the wife got a new box with Vista and I am
an new XP user (Ex 98 user). A friend had a cheapy little eMachine
with Vista from Walmart that would not do anything he needed so he put
it where ever and got a new good box with Vista.

I talked him out of the eMachine and am using it to learn Vista more
or less so I can take care of the wifes machine when and if needed,
The eMachine I am playing with is not hooked to the web so no problem
there.


 
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