A number of PCs at our site are having the MS antispyware software reporting
this. So far as I can tell, it's an obscure trojan that emulates an on-line
Brazilian bank logon page, but ASW rates it a "severe" threat level. And, it
appears that when you remove it, it disables Symantec Antivirus.
Anyone have any information on this? I can supply a screen shot of the ASW
detection screen if that would be helpful.

FINALLY -Numbers match, and it is no longer detected.

Now to bring back Norton.....



"Ryan Ward" wrote:

> Hey guys...
>
> So does this thing steal passwords, or not?
>
> I've tried updating to 5807 a few times now, and the numbers never match
> (160/158). Not sure what to do with it.
>
>
>
> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>
> > David--please go to Help, about, in Microsoft Antispyware and hit the
> > diagnostics button.
> >
> > Look for a line ending in a pair of numbers separated by a slash.
> >
> > Are those numbers equal?
> >
> > If not, 5807 is not fully installed. Please check for any caching servers
> > on your network, and re-try the update via file, check for updates.
> >
> > If those numbers are equal, and the FP is still evident, the Symantec
> > versioning for what you have in place--both antivirus product and
> > definitions, would probably be helpful.
> >
> > --
> >
> > "David Galvin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:2518EE57-5CF1-4F35-BDA3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I'm still receiving the false positive with 5807. I'm using Symantec
> > > Antivirus Corporate Edition v8.x
> > >
> > > "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
> > >
> > >> This is a false positive with definitions 5805--fixed with definitons
> > >> 5807,
> > >> available now.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> "JH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> news:5A253E44-BBAD-4AC5-B865-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> > Looks like this may become an epidemic. Same problem here and I can't
> > >> > find
> > >> > anything else on this pws.bancos.a virus. We did system restore to an
> > >> > earlier
> > >> > date and the pws.bancos.a is still there. We do system scans weekly
> > >> > with
> > >> > the
> > >> > latest definitions with Microsoft Spyware and Norton Corporate 7.6.
> > >> > Norton
> > >> > doesn't find the pws.bancos.a and also we did scans with AVG and Avast
> > >> > and
> > >> > still nothing on the pws.bancos.a. Scanned with Microsoft Spyware and
> > >> > it
> > >> > found it but when we remove pws.bancos.a it disables Norton and it
> > >> > won't
> > >> > enable. Once this happens we tried to reinstall Norton to attempt to
> > >> > fix
> > >> > the
> > >> > problem but Norton won't uninstall nor will it install. Help please!
> > >> >
> > >> > "Tom Breit" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> A number of PCs at our site are having the MS antispyware software
> > >> >> reporting
> > >> >> this. So far as I can tell, it's an obscure trojan that emulates an
> > >> >> on-line
> > >> >> Brazilian bank logon page, but ASW rates it a "severe" threat level.
> > >> >> And,
> > >> >> it
> > >> >> appears that when you remove it, it disables Symantec Antivirus.
> > >> >> Anyone have any information on this? I can supply a screen shot of the
> > >> >> ASW
> > >> >> detection screen if that would be helpful.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >

Bill

I have updated, numbers match "Definitions Increment Version: 160/160". I
tried reboot, re-install still getting FP. My Symantec is Program CE
9.0.3.1000, Scan eng 51.3.0.11 and def of 2/9/2006 rev 7. Is there any other
infromation you need?

"Bill Sanderson" wrote:

> David--please go to Help, about, in Microsoft Antispyware and hit the
> diagnostics button.
>
> Look for a line ending in a pair of numbers separated by a slash.
>
> Are those numbers equal?
>
> If not, 5807 is not fully installed. Please check for any caching servers
> on your network, and re-try the update via file, check for updates.
>
> If those numbers are equal, and the FP is still evident, the Symantec
> versioning for what you have in place--both antivirus product and
> definitions, would probably be helpful.
>
> --
>
> "David Galvin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:2518EE57-5CF1-4F35-BDA3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I'm still receiving the false positive with 5807. I'm using Symantec
> > Antivirus Corporate Edition v8.x
> >
> > "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
> >
> >> This is a false positive with definitions 5805--fixed with definitons
> >> 5807,
> >> available now.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> "JH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:5A253E44-BBAD-4AC5-B865-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Looks like this may become an epidemic. Same problem here and I can't
> >> > find
> >> > anything else on this pws.bancos.a virus. We did system restore to an
> >> > earlier
> >> > date and the pws.bancos.a is still there. We do system scans weekly
> >> > with
> >> > the
> >> > latest definitions with Microsoft Spyware and Norton Corporate 7.6.
> >> > Norton
> >> > doesn't find the pws.bancos.a and also we did scans with AVG and Avast
> >> > and
> >> > still nothing on the pws.bancos.a. Scanned with Microsoft Spyware and
> >> > it
> >> > found it but when we remove pws.bancos.a it disables Norton and it
> >> > won't
> >> > enable. Once this happens we tried to reinstall Norton to attempt to
> >> > fix
> >> > the
> >> > problem but Norton won't uninstall nor will it install. Help please!
> >> >
> >> > "Tom Breit" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> A number of PCs at our site are having the MS antispyware software
> >> >> reporting
> >> >> this. So far as I can tell, it's an obscure trojan that emulates an
> >> >> on-line
> >> >> Brazilian bank logon page, but ASW rates it a "severe" threat level.
> >> >> And,
> >> >> it
> >> >> appears that when you remove it, it disables Symantec Antivirus.
> >> >> Anyone have any information on this? I can supply a screen shot of the
> >> >> ASW
> >> >> detection screen if that would be helpful.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Tom - I'm sorry to report that this was a false positive in the 5805
definitions. It is corrected in definitions 5807, available as of about 3
pm today.

Uninstall and reinstall or do a repair install of Symantec Antivirus to fix
that.

Some users report that they can't do that via add/remove programs--trying
the setup program from the Symantec CD may help.

--

"Tom Breit" <Tom (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsD743041-55CE-41A4-AFED-(E-Mail Removed)...
>A number of PCs at our site are having the MS antispyware software
>reporting
> this. So far as I can tell, it's an obscure trojan that emulates an
> on-line
> Brazilian bank logon page, but ASW rates it a "severe" threat level. And,
> it
> appears that when you remove it, it disables Symantec Antivirus.
> Anyone have any information on this? I can supply a screen shot of the ASW
> detection screen if that would be helpful.

Thanks Zack--I try to stick with the group when things get hot!
--

"zack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:CE98D36D-255F-44E2-809D-(E-Mail Removed)...
> After repeated update failures, it occurred to me to close all
> applications
> (Office specifically), before trying again. After that, first try, the
> numbers matched:
> Definitions Increment Version: 160/160
>
> You've been very busy, just wanted to say thanks and I appreciate your
> diligence!
>
> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>
>> Go to Help, about.
>>
>> Hit the diagnostics button.
>>
>> Look for a line ending in a pair of numbers separated by a /
>>
>> i.e. 162/162, for example.
>>
>> If these two numbers are not equal, the update has not completed
>> successfully.
>>
>> You can fix this either by continuing to try file, check for updates, or
>> by
>> manually plugging the individual files from the download locations that
>> have
>> occasionally been posted in these groups--I don't have those saved to
>> post,
>> I'm afraid.
>> --
>>
>> "zack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:7675C95A-7180-42D6-AC42-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Download latest definitions, ran scan, and the same threat was
>> > detected.
>> > Here's "The About" info:
>> > Microsoft AntiSpyware Version: 1.0.701
>> > This version expires on: 7/31/2006
>> > Spyware Definition Version: 5807 (2/10/2006 3:05:09 PM)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is a false positive with definitions 5805--fixed with definitons
>> >> 5807,
>> >> available now.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> "JH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:5A253E44-BBAD-4AC5-B865-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Looks like this may become an epidemic. Same problem here and I
>> >> > can't
>> >> > find
>> >> > anything else on this pws.bancos.a virus. We did system restore to
>> >> > an
>> >> > earlier
>> >> > date and the pws.bancos.a is still there. We do system scans weekly
>> >> > with
>> >> > the
>> >> > latest definitions with Microsoft Spyware and Norton Corporate 7.6.
>> >> > Norton
>> >> > doesn't find the pws.bancos.a and also we did scans with AVG and
>> >> > Avast
>> >> > and
>> >> > still nothing on the pws.bancos.a. Scanned with Microsoft Spyware
>> >> > and
>> >> > it
>> >> > found it but when we remove pws.bancos.a it disables Norton and it
>> >> > won't
>> >> > enable. Once this happens we tried to reinstall Norton to attempt to
>> >> > fix
>> >> > the
>> >> > problem but Norton won't uninstall nor will it install. Help please!
>> >> >
>> >> > "Tom Breit" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> A number of PCs at our site are having the MS antispyware software
>> >> >> reporting
>> >> >> this. So far as I can tell, it's an obscure trojan that emulates an
>> >> >> on-line
>> >> >> Brazilian bank logon page, but ASW rates it a "severe" threat
>> >> >> level.
>> >> >> And,
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> appears that when you remove it, it disables Symantec Antivirus.
>> >> >> Anyone have any information on this? I can supply a screen shot of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> ASW
>> >> >> detection screen if that would be helpful.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

If it is a false positive, it doesn't steal anything except the time of all
of us dealing with it.

So far, all the reports here today have been the false positive--check out
other messages for more information.

--

"Ryan Ward" <Ryan (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:597CAB1C-1ECF-48D9-845A-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hey guys...
>
> So does this thing steal passwords, or not?
>
> I've tried updating to 5807 a few times now, and the numbers never match
> (160/158). Not sure what to do with it.
>
>
>
> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>
>> David--please go to Help, about, in Microsoft Antispyware and hit the
>> diagnostics button.
>>
>> Look for a line ending in a pair of numbers separated by a slash.
>>
>> Are those numbers equal?
>>
>> If not, 5807 is not fully installed. Please check for any caching
>> servers
>> on your network, and re-try the update via file, check for updates.
>>
>> If those numbers are equal, and the FP is still evident, the Symantec
>> versioning for what you have in place--both antivirus product and
>> definitions, would probably be helpful.
>>
>> --
>>
>> "David Galvin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:2518EE57-5CF1-4F35-BDA3-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I'm still receiving the false positive with 5807. I'm using Symantec
>> > Antivirus Corporate Edition v8.x
>> >
>> > "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is a false positive with definitions 5805--fixed with definitons
>> >> 5807,
>> >> available now.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> "JH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:5A253E44-BBAD-4AC5-B865-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Looks like this may become an epidemic. Same problem here and I
>> >> > can't
>> >> > find
>> >> > anything else on this pws.bancos.a virus. We did system restore to
>> >> > an
>> >> > earlier
>> >> > date and the pws.bancos.a is still there. We do system scans weekly
>> >> > with
>> >> > the
>> >> > latest definitions with Microsoft Spyware and Norton Corporate 7.6.
>> >> > Norton
>> >> > doesn't find the pws.bancos.a and also we did scans with AVG and
>> >> > Avast
>> >> > and
>> >> > still nothing on the pws.bancos.a. Scanned with Microsoft Spyware
>> >> > and
>> >> > it
>> >> > found it but when we remove pws.bancos.a it disables Norton and it
>> >> > won't
>> >> > enable. Once this happens we tried to reinstall Norton to attempt to
>> >> > fix
>> >> > the
>> >> > problem but Norton won't uninstall nor will it install. Help please!
>> >> >
>> >> > "Tom Breit" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> A number of PCs at our site are having the MS antispyware software
>> >> >> reporting
>> >> >> this. So far as I can tell, it's an obscure trojan that emulates an
>> >> >> on-line
>> >> >> Brazilian bank logon page, but ASW rates it a "severe" threat
>> >> >> level.
>> >> >> And,
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> appears that when you remove it, it disables Symantec Antivirus.
>> >> >> Anyone have any information on this? I can supply a screen shot of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> ASW
>> >> >> detection screen if that would be helpful.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Terrific--let me know what method worked to bring Norton back?

--

"Ryan Ward" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news75DACBA-4020-4E36-863C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> FINALLY -Numbers match, and it is no longer detected.
>
> Now to bring back Norton.....
>
>
>
> "Ryan Ward" wrote:
>
>> Hey guys...
>>
>> So does this thing steal passwords, or not?
>>
>> I've tried updating to 5807 a few times now, and the numbers never match
>> (160/158). Not sure what to do with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>>
>> > David--please go to Help, about, in Microsoft Antispyware and hit the
>> > diagnostics button.
>> >
>> > Look for a line ending in a pair of numbers separated by a slash.
>> >
>> > Are those numbers equal?
>> >
>> > If not, 5807 is not fully installed. Please check for any caching
>> > servers
>> > on your network, and re-try the update via file, check for updates.
>> >
>> > If those numbers are equal, and the FP is still evident, the Symantec
>> > versioning for what you have in place--both antivirus product and
>> > definitions, would probably be helpful.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > "David Galvin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:2518EE57-5CF1-4F35-BDA3-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > > I'm still receiving the false positive with 5807. I'm using Symantec
>> > > Antivirus Corporate Edition v8.x
>> > >
>> > > "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> This is a false positive with definitions 5805--fixed with
>> > >> definitons
>> > >> 5807,
>> > >> available now.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >>
>> > >> "JH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > >> news:5A253E44-BBAD-4AC5-B865-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >> > Looks like this may become an epidemic. Same problem here and I
>> > >> > can't
>> > >> > find
>> > >> > anything else on this pws.bancos.a virus. We did system restore to
>> > >> > an
>> > >> > earlier
>> > >> > date and the pws.bancos.a is still there. We do system scans
>> > >> > weekly
>> > >> > with
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > latest definitions with Microsoft Spyware and Norton Corporate
>> > >> > 7.6.
>> > >> > Norton
>> > >> > doesn't find the pws.bancos.a and also we did scans with AVG and
>> > >> > Avast
>> > >> > and
>> > >> > still nothing on the pws.bancos.a. Scanned with Microsoft Spyware
>> > >> > and
>> > >> > it
>> > >> > found it but when we remove pws.bancos.a it disables Norton and it
>> > >> > won't
>> > >> > enable. Once this happens we tried to reinstall Norton to attempt
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > fix
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > problem but Norton won't uninstall nor will it install. Help
>> > >> > please!
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Tom Breit" wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> A number of PCs at our site are having the MS antispyware
>> > >> >> software
>> > >> >> reporting
>> > >> >> this. So far as I can tell, it's an obscure trojan that emulates
>> > >> >> an
>> > >> >> on-line
>> > >> >> Brazilian bank logon page, but ASW rates it a "severe" threat
>> > >> >> level.
>> > >> >> And,
>> > >> >> it
>> > >> >> appears that when you remove it, it disables Symantec Antivirus.
>> > >> >> Anyone have any information on this? I can supply a screen shot
>> > >> >> of the
>> > >> >> ASW
>> > >> >> detection screen if that would be helpful.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

That's ugly!

I've one more question:
Can you tell me whether all 4 lines below match what you see when you hit
the diagnostics button? One possibility is that the 160/160 is not a
perfect diagnostic--this set of numbers is from a user who found the FP to
go away.
------
Definitions Increment Version: 160/160
Definitions ThreatAuditThreatData: 1355029
Definitions ThreatAuditScanData: 3098970
Definitions DeterminationData: 806390
--

"Tom Grigsby" <Tom (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:98A62644-2B30-4C2A-8EB4-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Bill
>
> I have updated, numbers match "Definitions Increment Version: 160/160". I
> tried reboot, re-install still getting FP. My Symantec is Program CE
> 9.0.3.1000, Scan eng 51.3.0.11 and def of 2/9/2006 rev 7. Is there any
> other
> infromation you need?
>
> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>
>> David--please go to Help, about, in Microsoft Antispyware and hit the
>> diagnostics button.
>>
>> Look for a line ending in a pair of numbers separated by a slash.
>>
>> Are those numbers equal?
>>
>> If not, 5807 is not fully installed. Please check for any caching
>> servers
>> on your network, and re-try the update via file, check for updates.
>>
>> If those numbers are equal, and the FP is still evident, the Symantec
>> versioning for what you have in place--both antivirus product and
>> definitions, would probably be helpful.
>>
>> --
>>
>> "David Galvin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:2518EE57-5CF1-4F35-BDA3-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I'm still receiving the false positive with 5807. I'm using Symantec
>> > Antivirus Corporate Edition v8.x
>> >
>> > "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is a false positive with definitions 5805--fixed with definitons
>> >> 5807,
>> >> available now.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> "JH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:5A253E44-BBAD-4AC5-B865-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Looks like this may become an epidemic. Same problem here and I
>> >> > can't
>> >> > find
>> >> > anything else on this pws.bancos.a virus. We did system restore to
>> >> > an
>> >> > earlier
>> >> > date and the pws.bancos.a is still there. We do system scans weekly
>> >> > with
>> >> > the
>> >> > latest definitions with Microsoft Spyware and Norton Corporate 7.6.
>> >> > Norton
>> >> > doesn't find the pws.bancos.a and also we did scans with AVG and
>> >> > Avast
>> >> > and
>> >> > still nothing on the pws.bancos.a. Scanned with Microsoft Spyware
>> >> > and
>> >> > it
>> >> > found it but when we remove pws.bancos.a it disables Norton and it
>> >> > won't
>> >> > enable. Once this happens we tried to reinstall Norton to attempt to
>> >> > fix
>> >> > the
>> >> > problem but Norton won't uninstall nor will it install. Help please!
>> >> >
>> >> > "Tom Breit" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> A number of PCs at our site are having the MS antispyware software
>> >> >> reporting
>> >> >> this. So far as I can tell, it's an obscure trojan that emulates an
>> >> >> on-line
>> >> >> Brazilian bank logon page, but ASW rates it a "severe" threat
>> >> >> level.
>> >> >> And,
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> appears that when you remove it, it disables Symantec Antivirus.
>> >> >> Anyone have any information on this? I can supply a screen shot of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> ASW
>> >> >> detection screen if that would be helpful.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Tom - if you send me email, at
(E-Mail Removed)

I may be able to offer more help.

--

"Bill Sanderson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%23%23YN%(E-Mail Removed)...
> That's ugly!
>
> I've one more question:
> Can you tell me whether all 4 lines below match what you see when you hit
> the diagnostics button? One possibility is that the 160/160 is not a
> perfect diagnostic--this set of numbers is from a user who found the FP to
> go away.
> ------
> Definitions Increment Version: 160/160
> Definitions ThreatAuditThreatData: 1355029
> Definitions ThreatAuditScanData: 3098970
> Definitions DeterminationData: 806390
> --
>
> "Tom Grigsby" <Tom (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:98A62644-2B30-4C2A-8EB4-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Bill
>>
>> I have updated, numbers match "Definitions Increment Version: 160/160".
>> I
>> tried reboot, re-install still getting FP. My Symantec is Program CE
>> 9.0.3.1000, Scan eng 51.3.0.11 and def of 2/9/2006 rev 7. Is there any
>> other
>> infromation you need?
>>
>> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>>
>>> David--please go to Help, about, in Microsoft Antispyware and hit the
>>> diagnostics button.
>>>
>>> Look for a line ending in a pair of numbers separated by a slash.
>>>
>>> Are those numbers equal?
>>>
>>> If not, 5807 is not fully installed. Please check for any caching
>>> servers
>>> on your network, and re-try the update via file, check for updates.
>>>
>>> If those numbers are equal, and the FP is still evident, the Symantec
>>> versioning for what you have in place--both antivirus product and
>>> definitions, would probably be helpful.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "David Galvin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:2518EE57-5CF1-4F35-BDA3-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> > I'm still receiving the false positive with 5807. I'm using Symantec
>>> > Antivirus Corporate Edition v8.x
>>> >
>>> > "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> This is a false positive with definitions 5805--fixed with definitons
>>> >> 5807,
>>> >> available now.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >>
>>> >> "JH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> >> news:5A253E44-BBAD-4AC5-B865-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> >> > Looks like this may become an epidemic. Same problem here and I
>>> >> > can't
>>> >> > find
>>> >> > anything else on this pws.bancos.a virus. We did system restore to
>>> >> > an
>>> >> > earlier
>>> >> > date and the pws.bancos.a is still there. We do system scans weekly
>>> >> > with
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > latest definitions with Microsoft Spyware and Norton Corporate 7.6.
>>> >> > Norton
>>> >> > doesn't find the pws.bancos.a and also we did scans with AVG and
>>> >> > Avast
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > still nothing on the pws.bancos.a. Scanned with Microsoft Spyware
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > it
>>> >> > found it but when we remove pws.bancos.a it disables Norton and it
>>> >> > won't
>>> >> > enable. Once this happens we tried to reinstall Norton to attempt
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > fix
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > problem but Norton won't uninstall nor will it install. Help
>>> >> > please!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Tom Breit" wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> A number of PCs at our site are having the MS antispyware software
>>> >> >> reporting
>>> >> >> this. So far as I can tell, it's an obscure trojan that emulates
>>> >> >> an
>>> >> >> on-line
>>> >> >> Brazilian bank logon page, but ASW rates it a "severe" threat
>>> >> >> level.
>>> >> >> And,
>>> >> >> it
>>> >> >> appears that when you remove it, it disables Symantec Antivirus.
>>> >> >> Anyone have any information on this? I can supply a screen shot of
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> ASW
>>> >> >> detection screen if that would be helpful.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>