Oh boy....I had problems with my Promise Controller not being recognized
so it finally it was.

I proceeded the repair option in XP (NOT through the Recovery Console).
Upon reboot, XP hanged. I let it sit for sometime before I did a manual
boot. Now, my Windows XP directory is not showing as an option to
repair. I don't want to have to reload XP on top of XP. I have only the
Original XP CD without any SP updates but I have SP 2 on the computer.

Are there any options?

Thanks

Promise Controler? that could be a card or onboard.
What exactly were the origonal problems, and where you doing something that
produced them

"Sam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ktKah.378327$1T2.188149@pd7urf2no...
> Oh boy....I had problems with my Promise Controller not being recognized
> so it finally it was.
>
> I proceeded the repair option in XP (NOT through the Recovery Console).
> Upon reboot, XP hanged. I let it sit for sometime before I did a manual
> boot. Now, my Windows XP directory is not showing as an option to
> repair. I don't want to have to reload XP on top of XP. I have only the
> Original XP CD without any SP updates but I have SP 2 on the computer.
>
> Are there any options?
>
> Thanks
>
>

The Promise Card is a PCI to IDE card: UDMA 100 on an ECS PVMM2 V5.0
Motherboard. Running a mix of FAT32 and NTFS partitions. I had it for
years working flawlessly on my old reliable trusted Abit BH6 board
running a P3 800 MHZ processor.

Initially, the problems were as follows (warning list is long):

1. CRC errors on one of my hard drives. Traced to a bad cable. I used
chkdsk several times to repair files, none of which adversely affected
any thing, mostly the NTFS file system

2. In removing the IDE cable from the motherboard, one of the pins on
the IDE slot on the mb got bent, I went to bent it back in shape, the
pin broke, there goes the slot.

3. In goes the Promise Controller. XP comes up with an error
system32hal.dll missing.

4. Go and get my XP boot CD, reboot, press F6 to load Promise
Controller.

5. I select "repair" partition that has an existing partition

6. Shortly thereafter, during the middle of the process, XP hangs. I
let it sit for over an hour

7. I manually reboot XP

8. Error "Stop 0x0000007B" errors shows up upon boot

9. I decide to kill my Asian Windows XP home and start to reload it from
CD, using F6

10. XP partially loads and then upon reboot, it says it can't find the
hard drive. I try reformatting that partition since I only did a quick
format before. No change.

11. I then use my IDE2 UDMA 33 onboard to attach my hard drive cable to
see what happens.

12. I do a quick format of my partition that had my partially
re-installed Chinese XP, I then reload XP Pro.

13. Everything loads/installs as it should on IDE2.

14. I look around my drive/partition. One partition )foremerly full of
data) now is listed as "unpartitioned" but healthy.

15. I see that one of my partitions has extensive data corruption
errors. I run chkdsk. Lots of files bad on that partition.now
corrected.
Would like to recover the chkdisk files (chk)

16. My partition with XP Pro is still there, no problems with it.

Would like to have my XP Pro back that was working with full of
programs. Don't know what happened to that Partition that is now listed
as not partitioned (I checked with Partition Magic). In the past one
was semi-visible but was able to activate it)

Sam




"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
: Promise Controler? that could be a card or onboard.
: What exactly were the origonal problems, and where you doing something
that
: produced them
:
: "Sam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: news:ktKah.378327$1T2.188149@pd7urf2no...
: > Oh boy....I had problems with my Promise Controller not being
recognized
: > so it finally it was.
: >
: > I proceeded the repair option in XP (NOT through the Recovery
Console).
: > Upon reboot, XP hanged. I let it sit for sometime before I did a
manual
: > boot. Now, my Windows XP directory is not showing as an option to
: > repair. I don't want to have to reload XP on top of XP. I have only
the
: > Original XP CD without any SP updates but I have SP 2 on the
computer.
: >
: > Are there any options?
: >
: > Thanks
: >
: >
:
:

Oh dear
The stop error often caused by incorrect/corrupt drivers (promise?)
Maybe first use the hd manufacturers disk checking utilities, freely
available on their web sites.
If they all pass,
Then use memory test http://www.memtest.org/
run for several hours

"Sam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:6R6bh.388618$5R2.138754@pd7urf3no...
> The Promise Card is a PCI to IDE card: UDMA 100 on an ECS PVMM2 V5.0
> Motherboard. Running a mix of FAT32 and NTFS partitions. I had it for
> years working flawlessly on my old reliable trusted Abit BH6 board
> running a P3 800 MHZ processor.
>
> Initially, the problems were as follows (warning list is long):
>
> 1. CRC errors on one of my hard drives. Traced to a bad cable. I used
> chkdsk several times to repair files, none of which adversely affected
> any thing, mostly the NTFS file system
>
> 2. In removing the IDE cable from the motherboard, one of the pins on
> the IDE slot on the mb got bent, I went to bent it back in shape, the
> pin broke, there goes the slot.
>
> 3. In goes the Promise Controller. XP comes up with an error
> system32hal.dll missing.
>
> 4. Go and get my XP boot CD, reboot, press F6 to load Promise
> Controller.
>
> 5. I select "repair" partition that has an existing partition
>
> 6. Shortly thereafter, during the middle of the process, XP hangs. I
> let it sit for over an hour
>
> 7. I manually reboot XP
>
> 8. Error "Stop 0x0000007B" errors shows up upon boot
>
> 9. I decide to kill my Asian Windows XP home and start to reload it from
> CD, using F6
>
> 10. XP partially loads and then upon reboot, it says it can't find the
> hard drive. I try reformatting that partition since I only did a quick
> format before. No change.
>
> 11. I then use my IDE2 UDMA 33 onboard to attach my hard drive cable to
> see what happens.
>
> 12. I do a quick format of my partition that had my partially
> re-installed Chinese XP, I then reload XP Pro.
>
> 13. Everything loads/installs as it should on IDE2.
>
> 14. I look around my drive/partition. One partition )foremerly full of
> data) now is listed as "unpartitioned" but healthy.
>
> 15. I see that one of my partitions has extensive data corruption
> errors. I run chkdsk. Lots of files bad on that partition.now
> corrected.
> Would like to recover the chkdisk files (chk)
>
> 16. My partition with XP Pro is still there, no problems with it.
>
> Would like to have my XP Pro back that was working with full of
> programs. Don't know what happened to that Partition that is now listed
> as not partitioned (I checked with Partition Magic). In the past one
> was semi-visible but was able to activate it)
>
> Sam
>
>
>
>
> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> : Promise Controler? that could be a card or onboard.
> : What exactly were the origonal problems, and where you doing something
> that
> : produced them
> :
> : "Sam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> : news:ktKah.378327$1T2.188149@pd7urf2no...
> : > Oh boy....I had problems with my Promise Controller not being
> recognized
> : > so it finally it was.
> : >
> : > I proceeded the repair option in XP (NOT through the Recovery
> Console).
> : > Upon reboot, XP hanged. I let it sit for sometime before I did a
> manual
> : > boot. Now, my Windows XP directory is not showing as an option to
> : > repair. I don't want to have to reload XP on top of XP. I have only
> the
> : > Original XP CD without any SP updates but I have SP 2 on the
> computer.
> : >
> : > Are there any options?
> : >
> : > Thanks
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

When booting with the Windows XP cd you MUST use the F6 option and
supply the Promise drivers on a floppy diskette. At the beginning of
the Setup routine you will see a message at the bottom of the screen,
something like "Press F6 if you need to install a third party SCSI or
RAID driver", you MUST do so at that time, if you miss the cue you will
have to reboot again. You MUST supply the drivers on a floppy diskette,
the setup program will not accept them from any other media source.

If Windows is already installed and you wish to use the card without a
reinstall then you MUST install the Promise controller drivers BEFORE
you install the card. This is by far the preferred method of installing
controller cards when Windows is already installed.

You now have two options:

1- Do an in-place upgrade (repair installation) using your Windows XP
cd and supplying the Promise drivers on a floppy diskette.

2- Being that the IDE pins on the Primary controller are damaged, move
the drive to the secondary controller and boot Windows on that
controller and preinstall the Promise drivers. Then install the card in
the computer and move the drive to the card, Windows should boot
properly on the Promise card. When you move the drive to the secondary
IDE controller on the motherboard you will have to modify the rdisk
value accordingly in the boot.ini file. To do so move the drive to the
secondary controller then boot to the Recovery Console and use the
bootcfg /rebuild command. The map arc command may also be useful.

While option #2 appears to be a bit cumbersome it is by far the
preferred option! Unless you want to deal with messy reinstalls...

An even easier preffered method of booting the computer after you
temporarily move the drive to a different IDE controller would be to use
a Boot Floppy Diskette! It takes about 2 minutes to make and will
eliminate the need to use the Recovery Console altogether! The diskette
MUST be made with an NT type computer, do not use a Windows 9x computer
to create the disk, if you do the disk will fail to boot Windows XP.

How to create a Windows NT 4.0, 2000, XP or Server 2003 boot floppy disk
http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ntboot/

A discussion about the Bootcfg command and its uses
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291980/EN-US/

Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058

"No Disk in Drive" Message During Windows XP Setup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823613

John

Sam wrote:

> The Promise Card is a PCI to IDE card: UDMA 100 on an ECS PVMM2 V5.0
> Motherboard. Running a mix of FAT32 and NTFS partitions. I had it for
> years working flawlessly on my old reliable trusted Abit BH6 board
> running a P3 800 MHZ processor.
>
> Initially, the problems were as follows (warning list is long):
>
> 1. CRC errors on one of my hard drives. Traced to a bad cable. I used
> chkdsk several times to repair files, none of which adversely affected
> any thing, mostly the NTFS file system
>
> 2. In removing the IDE cable from the motherboard, one of the pins on
> the IDE slot on the mb got bent, I went to bent it back in shape, the
> pin broke, there goes the slot.
>
> 3. In goes the Promise Controller. XP comes up with an error
> system32hal.dll missing.
>
> 4. Go and get my XP boot CD, reboot, press F6 to load Promise
> Controller.
>
> 5. I select "repair" partition that has an existing partition
>
> 6. Shortly thereafter, during the middle of the process, XP hangs. I
> let it sit for over an hour
>
> 7. I manually reboot XP
>
> 8. Error "Stop 0x0000007B" errors shows up upon boot
>
> 9. I decide to kill my Asian Windows XP home and start to reload it from
> CD, using F6
>
> 10. XP partially loads and then upon reboot, it says it can't find the
> hard drive. I try reformatting that partition since I only did a quick
> format before. No change.
>
> 11. I then use my IDE2 UDMA 33 onboard to attach my hard drive cable to
> see what happens.
>
> 12. I do a quick format of my partition that had my partially
> re-installed Chinese XP, I then reload XP Pro.
>
> 13. Everything loads/installs as it should on IDE2.
>
> 14. I look around my drive/partition. One partition )foremerly full of
> data) now is listed as "unpartitioned" but healthy.
>
> 15. I see that one of my partitions has extensive data corruption
> errors. I run chkdsk. Lots of files bad on that partition.now
> corrected.
> Would like to recover the chkdisk files (chk)
>
> 16. My partition with XP Pro is still there, no problems with it.
>
> Would like to have my XP Pro back that was working with full of
> programs. Don't know what happened to that Partition that is now listed
> as not partitioned (I checked with Partition Magic). In the past one
> was semi-visible but was able to activate it)
>
> Sam
>
>
>
>
> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> : Promise Controler? that could be a card or onboard.
> : What exactly were the origonal problems, and where you doing something
> that
> : produced them
> :
> : "Sam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> : news:ktKah.378327$1T2.188149@pd7urf2no...
> : > Oh boy....I had problems with my Promise Controller not being
> recognized
> : > so it finally it was.
> : >
> : > I proceeded the repair option in XP (NOT through the Recovery
> Console).
> : > Upon reboot, XP hanged. I let it sit for sometime before I did a
> manual
> : > boot. Now, my Windows XP directory is not showing as an option to
> : > repair. I don't want to have to reload XP on top of XP. I have only
> the
> : > Original XP CD without any SP updates but I have SP 2 on the
> computer.
> : >
> : > Are there any options?
> : >
> : > Thanks
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

I beg to differ, though this may be a requirement of the Promise card it
certainly isnt with any other sata card I've used.

> If Windows is already installed and you wish to use the card without a
> reinstall then you MUST install the Promise controller drivers BEFORE
> you install the card. This is by far the preferred method of installing
> controller cards when Windows is already installed.
>

If you wish to move your Windows drive off the controller upon which it
was installed you had better make sure that the proper driver for the
new controller is present and properly installed in the Windows
installation or else you will get an 0x7b error. No ifs, ands or buts
about that. Whether or not Windows is aware of the different controller
that is another matter, some controller drivers are included on the
Windows XP setup cd but not all are. End users should read the
documentation that comes with their controller card. I would prefer to
err on the side of caution rather than to blindly assume that the
controller drivers are already present on the Windows installation, it
hurts nothing to install drivers if they are already present.

John

DL wrote:
> I beg to differ, though this may be a requirement of the Promise card it
> certainly isnt with any other sata card I've used.
>
>
>>If Windows is already installed and you wish to use the card without a
>>reinstall then you MUST install the Promise controller drivers BEFORE
>>you install the card. This is by far the preferred method of installing
>>controller cards when Windows is already installed.
>>
>
>
>

you miss the point

"John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eptGbi%(E-Mail Removed)...
> If you wish to move your Windows drive off the controller upon which it
> was installed you had better make sure that the proper driver for the
> new controller is present and properly installed in the Windows
> installation or else you will get an 0x7b error. No ifs, ands or buts
> about that. Whether or not Windows is aware of the different controller
> that is another matter, some controller drivers are included on the
> Windows XP setup cd but not all are. End users should read the
> documentation that comes with their controller card. I would prefer to
> err on the side of caution rather than to blindly assume that the
> controller drivers are already present on the Windows installation, it
> hurts nothing to install drivers if they are already present.
>
> John
>
> DL wrote:
> > I beg to differ, though this may be a requirement of the Promise card it
> > certainly isnt with any other sata card I've used.
> >
> >
> >>If Windows is already installed and you wish to use the card without a
> >>reinstall then you MUST install the Promise controller drivers BEFORE
> >>you install the card. This is by far the preferred method of installing
> >>controller cards when Windows is already installed.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

If you mean that the card should be in the computer before you install
the drivers then yes, I jumped a step in my earlier post. The drive
should not be connected to the new controller until the drivers are
installed. I should have written:

"...you MUST install the Promise controller card and drivers BEFORE you
move the drive to the new controller..."

Thanks for the correction.

John

DL wrote:

> you miss the point
>
> "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:eptGbi%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>If you wish to move your Windows drive off the controller upon which it
>>was installed you had better make sure that the proper driver for the
>>new controller is present and properly installed in the Windows
>>installation or else you will get an 0x7b error. No ifs, ands or buts
>>about that. Whether or not Windows is aware of the different controller
>>that is another matter, some controller drivers are included on the
>>Windows XP setup cd but not all are. End users should read the
>>documentation that comes with their controller card. I would prefer to
>>err on the side of caution rather than to blindly assume that the
>>controller drivers are already present on the Windows installation, it
>>hurts nothing to install drivers if they are already present.
>>
>>John
>>
>>DL wrote:
>>
>>>I beg to differ, though this may be a requirement of the Promise card it
>>>certainly isnt with any other sata card I've used.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Windows is already installed and you wish to use the card without a
>>>>reinstall then you MUST install the Promise controller drivers BEFORE
>>>>you install the card. This is by far the preferred method of installing
>>>>controller cards when Windows is already installed.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

I figured it to be a typo/missread as your posts are usually spot on

"John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> If you mean that the card should be in the computer before you install
> the drivers then yes, I jumped a step in my earlier post. The drive
> should not be connected to the new controller until the drivers are
> installed. I should have written:
>
> "...you MUST install the Promise controller card and drivers BEFORE you
> move the drive to the new controller..."
>
> Thanks for the correction.
>
> John
>
> DL wrote:
>
> > you miss the point
> >
> > "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:eptGbi%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> >>If you wish to move your Windows drive off the controller upon which it
> >>was installed you had better make sure that the proper driver for the
> >>new controller is present and properly installed in the Windows
> >>installation or else you will get an 0x7b error. No ifs, ands or buts
> >>about that. Whether or not Windows is aware of the different controller
> >>that is another matter, some controller drivers are included on the
> >>Windows XP setup cd but not all are. End users should read the
> >>documentation that comes with their controller card. I would prefer to
> >>err on the side of caution rather than to blindly assume that the
> >>controller drivers are already present on the Windows installation, it
> >>hurts nothing to install drivers if they are already present.
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>DL wrote:
> >>
> >>>I beg to differ, though this may be a requirement of the Promise card
it
> >>>certainly isnt with any other sata card I've used.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>If Windows is already installed and you wish to use the card without a
> >>>>reinstall then you MUST install the Promise controller drivers BEFORE
> >>>>you install the card. This is by far the preferred method of
installing
> >>>>controller cards when Windows is already installed.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >