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OT? XP forever?
 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-6177619.html www.itwire.com.au/content/view/11487/53/ http://www.computerworld.com/action/...c=news_ts_head to my mind it suggests waiting until PL2 is released (but M$ has shown that they are less and less interested in releasing patch leveles and more and more interested in having users do very long on-line updates to their systems) fwiw, my experience with XP pro has been OK. bill |
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willbill wrote:
> OT? XP forever? I wonder if Microsoft is pirating its own software? How could it afford to sell it for so little money? Didn't they say it was impossible?  Microsoft aims to reach next billion PC users | CNET News.com http://news.com.com/Microsoft+aims+t...3-6177431.html |
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
> willbill wrote: > >> OT? XP forever? > > > I wonder if Microsoft is pirating its own software? How could it afford > to sell it for so little money? Didn't they say it was impossible? > > Microsoft aims to reach next billion PC users | CNET News.com > http://news.com.com/Microsoft+aims+t...3-6177431.html interesting. $3 bucks for <"Student Innovation Suite (Office and Windows) to governments that agree to directly purchase PCs for students to use in their schoolwork and at home."> strikes me as a loss leader of course, it's not XP Pro, but still "Windows XP Starter Edition, Office Home and Student 2007, Windows Live Mail Desktop and several educational products" seems like quite a lot for $3 otoh, Gates didn't get to be the richest man in the world by giving stuff away <"Poole said that in the developed world Microsoft has largely reached its goal of a PC on every desktop and in every home. "The PC is an expected appliance in the home for access to information, for schoolwork," Poole said. But, he said, that still leaves five out of every six people on the planet without a PC."> which makes me think of Nick Cage's recent Lord of War comment: <"...how do we arm the other 11?"> makes me wonder exactly which XP version Dell is selling, not to mention what they are paying for it maybe doing all those ongoing free on-line OS updates really doesn't cost M$ all that much? it also makes me wonder when M$ is going to pull the plug on support for XP? bill |
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willbill wrote:
> interesting. $3 bucks for <"Student Innovation Suite (Office > and Windows) to governments that agree to directly purchase PCs > for students to use in their schoolwork and at home."> > strikes me as a loss leader > of course, it's not XP Pro, but still "Windows XP Starter Edition, > Office Home and Student 2007, Windows Live Mail Desktop and > several educational products" seems like quite a lot for $3 Just recently Microsoft introduced the XP Starter Edition for $25. I was commenting back then that's still way too overpriced. So it looks like I was right, they have now not only dropped the price of XP Starter but also thrown in Office in the mix. > otoh, Gates didn't get to be the richest man in the > world by giving stuff away Actually, yes he did. The original piracy of DOS and Windows was what was responsible for the ubiquity of Windows throughout the universe. It used to be known as the Windows loss-leader. They'd give away Windows (by knowingly allowing piracy), and pull people into the Microsoft sphere with it, so they'd buy Office and other things. How else would a piece of crap software like Windows become so popular? If it weren't for piracy, Windows wouldn't have spread so vast and fast. > makes me wonder exactly which XP version Dell is > selling, not to mention what they are paying for it > maybe doing all those ongoing free on-line OS updates > really doesn't cost M$ all that much? The press release said that Dell will be selling it with XP Home and XP Pro again. As far as Microsoft, it usually keeps supporting Windows versions about 2 years after it stops selling it. This time Microsoft also announced that it's going to stop selling XP (the announcement was just a few days ago). But now just a few days later, Dell announces that it's selling it again. With the huge volume of Dell, I think Microsoft may have to change its mind about not selling XP to OEMs anymore. If this were Gateway, or somebody else, then they'd just tell them to f*k themselves. But this is Dell, it may not be the biggest PC maker on the planet anymore, but it's still pretty close. And if HP joins them, then between they control over 30% of the PC market, and MS will have to relent. All of the other 2nd tier and lower players will probably begin selling XP again. Hanging onto XP might be the only thing that saves Microsoft from an DRM backlash against Vista. Yousuf Khan -- There is no failure, only delayed success |
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:52:49 -0400, Yousuf Khan <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote: >willbill wrote: >> OT? XP forever? > >I wonder if Microsoft is pirating its own software? How could it afford >to sell it for so little money? Didn't they say it was impossible? > >Microsoft aims to reach next billion PC users | CNET News.com >http://news.com.com/Microsoft+aims+t...3-6177431.html 3 > 0 Simple math. Without this offer, the PCs would anyway run Windows/Office, probably Pro edition, but the payment of $3 would go to a local pirate instead. NNN |
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>> I wonder if Microsoft is pirating its own software? How could it afford >> to sell it for so little money? Didn't they say it was impossible? >> Microsoft aims to reach next billion PC users | CNET News.com >> http://news.com.com/Microsoft+aims+t...3-6177431.html > 3 > 0 > Simple math. Without this offer, the PCs would anyway run > Windows/Office, probably Pro edition, but the payment of $3 would go > to a local pirate instead. I still think this is overpriced for Microsoft software. I'll await when Microsoft offers XP Media Centre or XP Pro, along with a corporate version of Office for $3. At least the cost of the CD/DVD disc plus and the bit of content might be worth it at that point. %^) -- There is no failure, only delayed success |
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chrisv wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote: > >> Simple math. Without this offer, the PCs would anyway run >> Windows/Office, probably Pro edition, but the payment of $3 would go >> to a local pirate instead. > > Simple evil, you mean. This is nothing more than an immoral M$ plan > to halt the growth of open-source (read: GNU/Linux) in developing > countries. More than likely, Microsoft knows that it's lack of success with Vista is probably a game-changing situation where Microsoft software is no longer the default option on computers. It can't let that get away. I was once talking to somebody in a developing nation. I was asking them how come Linux hasn't taken off yet over there? It seemed like the ideal option for that country. He said that Linux hasn't taken off because nobody sees it being pirated over there! Amusing considering that Linux is free so there's no point in pirating it.  Yousuf Khan -- There is no failure, only delayed success |
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