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Mrfixit
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      23rd Mar 2004
NTDS Replication Error

Investigate why replication between these two domain
controllers cannot be performed. Then try to demote this
DC.
Can't demote do to link not being established for DC.

Additional Data
Error value
8524 The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of a
DNS Look up failure.

Server was rebuilt and is no longer available.
 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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      24th Mar 2004
In news:f29701c410f4$dc2874c0$(E-Mail Removed),
Mrfixit <(E-Mail Removed)> posted their thoughts, then I offered mine
> NTDS Replication Error
>
> Investigate why replication between these two domain
> controllers cannot be performed. Then try to demote this
> DC.
> Can't demote do to link not being established for DC.
>
> Additional Data
> Error value
> 8524 The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of a
> DNS Look up failure.
>
> Server was rebuilt and is no longer available.



Well, the problem is stated directly in the error message. What DNS servers
are you using? I noticed in an earlier post you are reluctant to post an
ipconfig /all publicly, no problem. Just confirm that you are not using your
ISP's DNS, or if you are, then your machines during a replication request
are asking your ISP, "Where is my domain controller?", but it doesn't know
that information, and therefore a "DNS Lookup Failure" msg results.

We'll need lots more info to diagnose this one. How many sites, is this
machine trying to replicate in the same site or different site, ipconfig
/all from both ths DC and the other one, etc. Diagnosis starts by asking
these questions. Sorry if you cannot post them...



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Mr.fixit
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      24th Mar 2004
See if I can answer these quest?
We have a central static DNS Services.
Active Directory is running on a single local site.
All DC's point to the central static DNS Servicer.
The central IT staff require this configuration.

We are directed not to run DNS Server on the local site.

This is a result of a DC upgrade from W2k to W2k3Server.
Operating system was rebuilt from scratch, with the above
mentioned problem.

Also, DNS Services is not running on this server, should
it be added on the win2kserver?

Thank you for your assistance?

>-----Original Message-----
>In news:f29701c410f4$dc2874c0$(E-Mail Removed),
>Mrfixit <(E-Mail Removed)> posted their thoughts,

then I offered mine
>> NTDS Replication Error
>>
>> Investigate why replication between these two domain
>> controllers cannot be performed. Then try to demote

this
>> DC.
>> Can't demote do to link not being established for DC.
>>
>> Additional Data
>> Error value
>> 8524 The DSA operation is unable to proceed because of

a
>> DNS Look up failure.
>>
>> Server was rebuilt and is no longer available.

>
>
>Well, the problem is stated directly in the error

message. What DNS servers
>are you using? I noticed in an earlier post you are

reluctant to post an
>ipconfig /all publicly, no problem. Just confirm that

you are not using your
>ISP's DNS, or if you are, then your machines during a

replication request
>are asking your ISP, "Where is my domain controller?",

but it doesn't know
>that information, and therefore a "DNS Lookup Failure"

msg results.
>
>We'll need lots more info to diagnose this one. How many

sites, is this
>machine trying to replicate in the same site or

different site, ipconfig
>/all from both ths DC and the other one, etc. Diagnosis

starts by asking
>these questions. Sorry if you cannot post them...
>
>
>
>--
>Regards,
>Ace
>
>Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can

benefit.
>This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties and

confers no
>rights.
>
>Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
>Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
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>
>
>.
>

 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]
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      24th Mar 2004
In news:1292501c411a9$1f73e250$(E-Mail Removed),
Mr.fixit <(E-Mail Removed)> posted their thoughts, then I offered mine
> See if I can answer these quest?
> We have a central static DNS Services.
> Active Directory is running on a single local site.
> All DC's point to the central static DNS Servicer.
> The central IT staff require this configuration.
>
> We are directed not to run DNS Server on the local site
>
> This is a result of a DC upgrade from W2k to W2k3Server.
> Operating system was rebuilt from scratch, with the above
> mentioned problem.
>
> Also, DNS Services is not running on this server, should
> it be added on the win2kserver?
>
> Thank you for your assistance?
>


Hi Mr Fixit,

Sounds like you're part of a University. Many universities do that and have
control, but they have guidelines if you need to run AD.

Maybe if the system was rebuilt from sratch, then you may have misconfigured
something or left something out. Who knows. Since we cannot get any specific
info about your configuration, then it's ALL guess work. Read on and maybe
from what I mention here may help you to help yourself, otherwise, not sure
what to say.

On the central DNS server that is run by the central IT staff, I am going to
assume that the AD domain zone name has been created on that DNS server and
that dynamic updates have been allowed so your DC can update it's AD
information into it. These records are called SRV (service locator) records
and are necessary for AD functionality. If they do not exist, then AD will
malfunction and you will get numerous errors, one of which you are currently
experiencing.

In a nutshell, when one machine asks another for info about AD or where to
find something in AD, it will ask DNS first, specifically it asks DNS for
the SRV record of that specific type of service. Then once it gets it's
location, then it queries for the IP, then once it finds the IP, it then
connects thru a secure channel. If the SRVs don't exist, then, well, you'll
have problems.

You can run various tests to ensure that the SRVs exist. Here's a couple
links to help you out in this respect and to explain what they are:

Verify DNS RR and SRV with nslookup:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tre..._verifySRV.asp

DC Locator DNS Records [SRV, RVP]:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tre...NS_Records.asp

239897 - SRV Resource Records May Not Be Created on Domain Controller:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;239897

Run the verifiation tests and see if they show you your SRVs.

For proper SRV registration by domain controllers to work, basically, the AD
DNS domain name, the Primary DNS SUffix of the machine, and the DNS zone
name must all be spelled the same and the zone needs to allow dynamic
updates. If none of this matches, then we've got a problem.

Here's an FAQ of AD & DNS:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=291382

Don;t what else to say without specific info. Talk to your central IT guys
and explain what's happening and what's required of AD. If you can install
DNS on this machine, and point your users who are using your AD only to this
machine for DNS, then things will work. Then you can create a forwarder to
your central IT DNS.

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