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Need Av prog for low power pc. Non bloatware suggestions plz.

 
 
Argle Bargle
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      26th Oct 2003
Hi,
I'm in the market for a new AV prog for a pc with the following specs.
Windows 98 (original, not SE)
Celeron 533
256 mb Ram
6 gig hd.

I 've got Nod32 2.000.6 on another pc but am not 100% happy with it and
don't think I want to buy another licence to run it on my low power pc.
Previous versions of Nod32 used less resources though version 2.000.6 can
hardly be described as bloatware.

I use this pc mostly to catalog my book collection with Readerware.
Readerware uses a lot of resources when my book database is open. I'd
like something I can run with Readerware open. I occasionally have to
research titles on the web and would like something that can intercept
the occasional nasty script or happytime virus I might run into.
I was considering Solo, F-prot or E-trust Ez Antivirus. Do any of these
have a very tiny footprint resource wise?
I don't download a lot on this machine and don't use pop email at all so
I'm not to concerned about those features in an AV scanner.
 
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Duane Arnold
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      26th Oct 2003
Argle Bargle <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:H9Smb.36747$(E-Mail Removed):

> Hi,
> I'm in the market for a new AV prog for a pc with the following specs.
> Windows 98 (original, not SE)
> Celeron 533
> 256 mb Ram
> 6 gig hd.
>
> I 've got Nod32 2.000.6 on another pc but am not 100% happy with it
> and don't think I want to buy another licence to run it on my low
> power pc. Previous versions of Nod32 used less resources though
> version 2.000.6 can hardly be described as bloatware.
>
> I use this pc mostly to catalog my book collection with Readerware.
> Readerware uses a lot of resources when my book database is open. I'd
> like something I can run with Readerware open. I occasionally have to
> research titles on the web and would like something that can intercept
> the occasional nasty script or happytime virus I might run into.
> I was considering Solo, F-prot or E-trust Ez Antivirus. Do any of
> these have a very tiny footprint resource wise?
> I don't download a lot on this machine and don't use pop email at all
> so I'm not to concerned about those features in an AV scanner.
>


What, the computer doesn't have memory expansion? You can buy a memory
chip easy to install at www.crucial.com. Online instructions on what to
get and how to install it, based on your computer brand and model. It's a
piece of cake to do.

Duane
 
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Argle Bargle
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      26th Oct 2003
In article <Xns9420677657679darnold92insightbbco@204.127.199.17>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Argle Bargle <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:H9Smb.36747$(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm in the market for a new AV prog for a pc with the following specs.
> > Windows 98 (original, not SE)
> > Celeron 533
> > 256 mb Ram
> > 6 gig hd.
> >
> > I 've got Nod32 2.000.6 on another pc but am not 100% happy with it
> > and don't think I want to buy another licence to run it on my low
> > power pc. Previous versions of Nod32 used less resources though
> > version 2.000.6 can hardly be described as bloatware.
> >
> > I use this pc mostly to catalog my book collection with Readerware.
> > Readerware uses a lot of resources when my book database is open. I'd
> > like something I can run with Readerware open. I occasionally have to
> > research titles on the web and would like something that can intercept
> > the occasional nasty script or happytime virus I might run into.
> > I was considering Solo, F-prot or E-trust Ez Antivirus. Do any of
> > these have a very tiny footprint resource wise?
> > I don't download a lot on this machine and don't use pop email at all
> > so I'm not to concerned about those features in an AV scanner.
> >

>
> What, the computer doesn't have memory expansion? You can buy a memory
> chip easy to install at www.crucial.com. Online instructions on what to
> get and how to install it, based on your computer brand and model. It's a
> piece of cake to do.
>
> Duane
>

I know how to install memory.
I upgraded this machine from 64 to 256.
I upgraded the cpu from 400 to 533, the max this motherboard will handle.
This is an old E-machines pc. The memory will only go up to 500mb.
The next time Microcenter has a sale on memory I buy more.
In the meantime I still need an AV prog for this machine.
 
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Jeffrey A. Setaro
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      26th Oct 2003
In article <H9Smb.36747$(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Hi,
> I'm in the market for a new AV prog for a pc with the following specs.
> Windows 98 (original, not SE)
> Celeron 533
> 256 mb Ram
> 6 gig hd.
>
> I 've got Nod32 2.000.6 on another pc but am not 100% happy with it and
> don't think I want to buy another licence to run it on my low power pc.
> Previous versions of Nod32 used less resources though version 2.000.6 can
> hardly be described as bloatware.
>


[Snip]

Give F-Prot for Windows <http://www.f-prot.com> a try.

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Jeff Setaro
jasetaro <at> mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
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Argle Bargle
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      26th Oct 2003
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> In article <H9Smb.36747$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > Hi,
> > I'm in the market for a new AV prog for a pc with the following specs.
> > Windows 98 (original, not SE)
> > Celeron 533
> > 256 mb Ram
> > 6 gig hd.
> >
> > I 've got Nod32 2.000.6 on another pc but am not 100% happy with it and
> > don't think I want to buy another licence to run it on my low power pc.
> > Previous versions of Nod32 used less resources though version 2.000.6 can
> > hardly be described as bloatware.
> >

>
> [Snip]
>
> Give F-Prot for Windows <http://www.f-prot.com> a try.
>
>

I've downloaded trials for that and:
E-Trust
Sophos
Rav.
Trying to decide which to actually install.
 
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jen
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      26th Oct 2003
"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns9420677657679darnold92insightbbco@204.127.199.17...
> Argle Bargle <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:H9Smb.36747$(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm in the market for a new AV prog for a pc with the following

specs.
> > Windows 98 (original, not SE)
> > Celeron 533
> > 256 mb Ram
> > 6 gig hd.
> >
> > I 've got Nod32 2.000.6 on another pc but am not 100% happy with it
> > and don't think I want to buy another licence to run it on my low
> > power pc. Previous versions of Nod32 used less resources though
> > version 2.000.6 can hardly be described as bloatware.
> >
> > I use this pc mostly to catalog my book collection with Readerware.
> > Readerware uses a lot of resources when my book database is open.

I'd
> > like something I can run with Readerware open. I occasionally have

to
> > research titles on the web and would like something that can

intercept
> > the occasional nasty script or happytime virus I might run into.
> > I was considering Solo, F-prot or E-trust Ez Antivirus. Do any of
> > these have a very tiny footprint resource wise?
> > I don't download a lot on this machine and don't use pop email at

all
> > so I'm not to concerned about those features in an AV scanner.
> >

>
> What, the computer doesn't have memory expansion? You can buy a memory
> chip easy to install at www.crucial.com. Online instructions on what

to
> get and how to install it, based on your computer brand and model.

It's a > piece of cake to do.

Memory has *nothing* to do with resources...

-jen


 
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Duane Arnold
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      26th Oct 2003
>
> Memory has *nothing* to do with resources...
>
> -jen


You can knock me down with a feather on this. The usage of a program
running and coexisting with any other program running on the computer
including the O/S is based on the amount of memory that is available for
the programs to run in. The more memory the machine has the more programs
can run and the less paging of memory the O/S must do. The less memory the
O/S has the more memory paging it must do in order for the O/S to keep
programs running, which slows the computer down.

Ways to circumvent the problem:

1) Get more memory for the machine.
2) Run less program on the machine at the same time.
3) Find a program that uses less memory to run.

When the MS O/S displays a system message indicating "Computer resources
are low' it is indicating nothing else but about the computer's memory
usage has become critically low and some program(s) need to be terminated
so that the O/S has enough memory to run.

Duane


 
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Jeffrey A. Setaro
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      26th Oct 2003
In article <Xns94208724BD267darnold92insightbbco@216.148.227.77>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> >
> > Memory has *nothing* to do with resources...
> >
> > -jen

>
> You can knock me down with a feather on this. The usage of a program
> running and coexisting with any other program running on the computer
> including the O/S is based on the amount of memory that is available for
> the programs to run in. The more memory the machine has the more programs
> can run and the less paging of memory the O/S must do. The less memory the
> O/S has the more memory paging it must do in order for the O/S to keep
> programs running, which slows the computer down.
>
> Ways to circumvent the problem:
>
> 1) Get more memory for the machine.
> 2) Run less program on the machine at the same time.
> 3) Find a program that uses less memory to run.
>
> When the MS O/S displays a system message indicating "Computer resources
> are low' it is indicating nothing else but about the computer's memory
> usage has become critically low and some program(s) need to be terminated
> so that the O/S has enough memory to run.
>


"Resources", at lest in the context of Win9x based OSes refers to the
64K System, User and GDI heaps. That classic "Computer resources
are low" message relates to one or more of those resource heaps being
low rather than system memory.

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Jeff Setaro
jasetaro <at> mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
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Robert Moir
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      26th Oct 2003
Duane Arnold wrote:

> When the MS O/S displays a system message indicating "Computer
> resources are low' it is indicating nothing else but about the
> computer's memory usage has become critically low and some program(s)
> need to be terminated so that the O/S has enough memory to run.


In the case of Windows 98 at least, you are wrong. The resources referred to
are indeed part of memory but adding more memory will not help as the
portion of memory referred to is a fixed size regardless of the amount of
physical ram and paging file space available. For the type of work described
by the OP, 256Mb of Ram should be ample for Windows 98 - it was written to
use far less.

Argle Bargle, have you looked at F-Prot for Windows? Last time I looked it,
which I admit was a leetle while ago, it was fairly frugal in how it spent
your computer power.

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Duane Arnold
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      26th Oct 2003
"Robert Moir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Duane Arnold wrote:
>
>> When the MS O/S displays a system message indicating "Computer
>> resources are low' it is indicating nothing else but about the
>> computer's memory usage has become critically low and some program(s)
>> need to be terminated so that the O/S has enough memory to run.

>
> In the case of Windows 98 at least, you are wrong. The resources
> referred to are indeed part of memory but adding more memory will not
> help as the portion of memory referred to is a fixed size regardless
> of the amount of physical ram and paging file space available. For the
> type of work described by the OP, 256Mb of Ram should be ample for
> Windows 98 - it was written to use far less.
>
> Argle Bargle, have you looked at F-Prot for Windows? Last time I
> looked it, which I admit was a leetle while ago, it was fairly frugal
> in how it spent your computer power.
>


OK I'll accept this. It has been many many moons since I last saw a Win 9'x
O/S.

Duane
 
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