My Computer keeps shutting off?

I bought a new PC Power & Cooling ATX 360 power supply. It is still doing
it?

After it shuts off, the power button does not work. I can either do the PC
Power & Cooling thing where I connect the green & blk wires or flip the
110-220 switch on the back, wait a minute & it is ready to go again.

It is very erratic. There does not seem to be anything that triggers it? I
am guessing it is hardware?

I have checked all the plugs, etc.

What gives?





Richard

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Later,

-- Richard --

Richard wrote:
> My Computer keeps shutting off?
>
> I bought a new PC Power & Cooling ATX 360 power supply. It is still doing
> it?
>
> After it shuts off, the power button does not work. I can either do the PC
> Power & Cooling thing where I connect the green & blk wires or flip the
> 110-220 switch on the back, wait a minute & it is ready to go again.
>
> It is very erratic. There does not seem to be anything that triggers it? I
> am guessing it is hardware?
>
> I have checked all the plugs, etc.
>
> What gives?
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>

If it's new, take it back to the shop and get one that works. Be sure
and arrive at the store when it's full of customers and loudly state
your problem so everyone can benefit from the answer.

Alias

I wished it was new...
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Later,

-- Richard --

"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
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> Richard wrote:
>> My Computer keeps shutting off?
>>
>> I bought a new PC Power & Cooling ATX 360 power supply. It is still doing
>> it?
>>
>> After it shuts off, the power button does not work. I can either do the
>> PC Power & Cooling thing where I connect the green & blk wires or flip
>> the 110-220 switch on the back, wait a minute & it is ready to go again.
>>
>> It is very erratic. There does not seem to be anything that triggers it?
>> I am guessing it is hardware?
>>
>> I have checked all the plugs, etc.
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>
> If it's new, take it back to the shop and get one that works. Be sure and
> arrive at the store when it's full of customers and loudly state your
> problem so everyone can benefit from the answer.
>
> Alias

Richard wrote:
> My Computer keeps shutting off?
>
> I bought a new PC Power & Cooling ATX 360 power supply. It is still doing
> it?
>
> After it shuts off, the power button does not work. I can either do the PC
> Power & Cooling thing where I connect the green & blk wires or flip the
> 110-220 switch on the back, wait a minute & it is ready to go again.
>
> It is very erratic. There does not seem to be anything that triggers it? I
> am guessing it is hardware?
>
> I have checked all the plugs, etc.
>
> What gives?
>
> Richard

What about the CPU cooling fan and any fan you might have on the video
accelerator chip? Have you tried software for monitoring your fan speeds
and the case, CPU and video accelerator temperatures?

Great idea... I took it apart & the fans are running ok. The AMD cpu temp
ranges from 141 to 161 f. That may be a little higher that I remember from
before? Right now it is 141 f with the cover off. I am going to try that for
now?

Richard


"RobertVA" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Richard wrote:
>> My Computer keeps shutting off?
>>
>> I bought a new PC Power & Cooling ATX 360 power supply. It is still doing
>> it?
>>
>> After it shuts off, the power button does not work. I can either do the
>> PC Power & Cooling thing where I connect the green & blk wires or flip
>> the 110-220 switch on the back, wait a minute & it is ready to go again.
>>
>> It is very erratic. There does not seem to be anything that triggers it?
>> I am guessing it is hardware?
>>
>> I have checked all the plugs, etc.
>>
>> What gives?
> >
>> Richard
>
> What about the CPU cooling fan and any fan you might have on the video
> accelerator chip? Have you tried software for monitoring your fan speeds
> and the case, CPU and video accelerator temperatures?

Richard wrote:
> Great idea... I took it apart & the fans are running ok. The AMD cpu temp
> ranges from 141 to 161 f. That may be a little higher that I remember from
> before? Right now it is 141 f with the cover off. I am going to try that for
> now?
>
> Richard
>
>
> "RobertVA" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Richard wrote:
>>> My Computer keeps shutting off?
>>>
>>> I bought a new PC Power & Cooling ATX 360 power supply. It is still doing
>>> it?
>>>
>>> After it shuts off, the power button does not work. I can either do the
>>> PC Power & Cooling thing where I connect the green & blk wires or flip
>>> the 110-220 switch on the back, wait a minute & it is ready to go again.
>>>
>>> It is very erratic. There does not seem to be anything that triggers it?
>>> I am guessing it is hardware?
>>>
>>> I have checked all the plugs, etc.
>>>
>>> What gives?
>> >
>>> Richard
>> What about the CPU cooling fan and any fan you might have on the video
>> accelerator chip? Have you tried software for monitoring your fan speeds
>> and the case, CPU and video accelerator temperatures?

That sounds pretty toasty! I had trouble figuring out what AMD considers
too hot. I don/t know which model CPU you have either. Maybe the
Dashboard Demo Software at
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont.../dashboard.exe
would tell you what range is acceptable for the model of you are using.
You might need to install one or two supplemental case ventilation fans.
Experiment with aiming a table fan at the open case to see if the system
works better.

Thanks for sending the >Dashboard Demo Software

It didn't work for me since I think it is for 64 bit system. Mine is older
than that. I think it is a 2400?

The mother board says it supports a Socket-462 for AMD Athlon. PC Alert is
giving me the CPU temp. If that is the problem.... why is it failing now?

Richard

"RobertVA" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%23$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Richard wrote:
>> Great idea... I took it apart & the fans are running ok. The AMD cpu temp
>> ranges from 141 to 161 f. That may be a little higher that I remember
>> from before? Right now it is 141 f with the cover off. I am going to try
>> that for now?
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> "RobertVA" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Richard wrote:
>>>> My Computer keeps shutting off?
>>>>
>>>> I bought a new PC Power & Cooling ATX 360 power supply. It is still
>>>> doing it?
>>>>
>>>> After it shuts off, the power button does not work. I can either do the
>>>> PC Power & Cooling thing where I connect the green & blk wires or flip
>>>> the 110-220 switch on the back, wait a minute & it is ready to go
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> It is very erratic. There does not seem to be anything that triggers
>>>> it? I am guessing it is hardware?
>>>>
>>>> I have checked all the plugs, etc.
>>>>
>>>> What gives?
>>> >
>>>> Richard
>>> What about the CPU cooling fan and any fan you might have on the video
>>> accelerator chip? Have you tried software for monitoring your fan speeds
>>> and the case, CPU and video accelerator temperatures?
>
> That sounds pretty toasty! I had trouble figuring out what AMD considers
> too hot. I don/t know which model CPU you have either. Maybe the Dashboard
> Demo Software at
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont.../dashboard.exe would
> tell you what range is acceptable for the model of you are using. You
> might need to install one or two supplemental case ventilation fans.
> Experiment with aiming a table fan at the open case to see if the system
> works better.

Richard wrote:
> Great idea... I took it apart & the fans are running ok. The AMD cpu temp
> ranges from 141 to 161 f. That may be a little higher that I remember from
> before? Right now it is 141 f with the cover off. I am going to try that for
> now?
>
> Richard

Waaaay too hot. I have an AMD AthlonXP 3000+ and it's at 95F and the
computer has been on all day. Replace the fan that cools your processor;
it must be going out. It might set you back 5 US dollars, max.

Alias
>
>
> "RobertVA" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Richard wrote:
>>> My Computer keeps shutting off?
>>>
>>> I bought a new PC Power & Cooling ATX 360 power supply. It is still doing
>>> it?
>>>
>>> After it shuts off, the power button does not work. I can either do the
>>> PC Power & Cooling thing where I connect the green & blk wires or flip
>>> the 110-220 switch on the back, wait a minute & it is ready to go again.
>>>
>>> It is very erratic. There does not seem to be anything that triggers it?
>>> I am guessing it is hardware?
>>>
>>> I have checked all the plugs, etc.
>>>
>>> What gives?
>> >
>>> Richard
>> What about the CPU cooling fan and any fan you might have on the video
>> accelerator chip? Have you tried software for monitoring your fan speeds
>> and the case, CPU and video accelerator temperatures?
>
>

Many of the better power supplies have thermal overload protection. If there
is a short anywhere on the M/B, the power supply will shut down. Recycling
the power will/may reset the overload device.

I have had this happen to an Antec 400w power supply. I found the wires that
were touching and separated them. Everything was then O.K.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Richard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> My Computer keeps shutting off?
>
> I bought a new PC Power & Cooling ATX 360 power supply. It is still doing
> it?
>
> After it shuts off, the power button does not work. I can either do the PC
> Power & Cooling thing where I connect the green & blk wires or flip the
> 110-220 switch on the back, wait a minute & it is ready to go again.
>
> It is very erratic. There does not seem to be anything that triggers it? I
> am guessing it is hardware?
>
> I have checked all the plugs, etc.
>
> What gives?
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> --
> Later,
>
> -- Richard --
>
>

Richard wrote:
> Great idea... I took it apart & the fans are running ok. The AMD cpu temp
> ranges from 141 to 161 f. That may be a little higher that I remember from
> before? Right now it is 141 f with the cover off. I am going to try that for
> now?
>
> Richard
>
>
Athlons have a spec that lists either 85 or 90 deg centigrade
(depending on the model) as absolute thermal maximum. Meaning the chip
isn't dead (yet). The stability threshhold is lower. Around 70. Which
you have exceeded. Chances your motherboard is going into thermal
shutdown in order to protect your chip.

85 centigrade works out to 185 farenheit

Take an air compressor to that computer, blow out all of the dust from
the fans, intakes, and heatsinks (may as well get it off the rest of
the computer too). Dust is the enemy. It acts as an insulator and it
clogs your airfrow.

If that doesn't lower it, re-do the heat sink. Take off all the old
thermal paste (or tape) and put a new layer on.

If that STILL doesn't cure it, get a better heatsink, and maybe an
extra case fan.