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Ken Blake, MVP
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      18th Sep 2009
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:33:14 +0100, "Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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> "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> >
> > I'm never in favor of waiting for a Service Pack. And I can report
> > that Windows 7 is extremely stable, and has no problems that I've
> > seen.
> >

>
> I second that - I've been running the RC since it came out, and no problems
> here either. Plus I didn't need any external drivers - all my hardware was
> found and installed in the one Win7 install....great!




I ran the RC with no problems from when it was released until RTM.
I've been running RTM since then and it continues to be excellent with
no problems.

Also let me elaborate on what I said about waiting for a service pack.
The point in time when a service pack is released is at the discretion
of Microsoft and is completely arbitrary. Upgrades and fixes to any
version of Windows are released when needed--once a month, normally,
but more often when necessary. At some arbitrary point, Microsoft
decides to roll up all those upgrades and fixes into one package and
calls the result a service pack.

There's no particular significance to when that service pack is
released, and it doesn't mark a special point of stability. There were
upgrades before it and there will be more upgrades after it. Since it
has no particular significance, treating it as a special event, and
waiting for it, is meaningless.

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      18th Sep 2009
Well from what I've seen Microsoft is going to need
a patch to Windows 7 'Disk Management'.

The RTM has problems when creating partitions
for multi-boot systems and another issue when
doing a clean install on a system that has three hard drives.

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JS
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"Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:33:14 +0100, "Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >
>> > I'm never in favor of waiting for a Service Pack. And I can report
>> > that Windows 7 is extremely stable, and has no problems that I've
>> > seen.
>> >

>>
>> I second that - I've been running the RC since it came out, and no
>> problems
>> here either. Plus I didn't need any external drivers - all my hardware
>> was
>> found and installed in the one Win7 install....great!

>
>
>
> I ran the RC with no problems from when it was released until RTM.
> I've been running RTM since then and it continues to be excellent with
> no problems.
>
> Also let me elaborate on what I said about waiting for a service pack.
> The point in time when a service pack is released is at the discretion
> of Microsoft and is completely arbitrary. Upgrades and fixes to any
> version of Windows are released when needed--once a month, normally,
> but more often when necessary. At some arbitrary point, Microsoft
> decides to roll up all those upgrades and fixes into one package and
> calls the result a service pack.
>
> There's no particular significance to when that service pack is
> released, and it doesn't mark a special point of stability. There were
> upgrades before it and there will be more upgrades after it. Since it
> has no particular significance, treating it as a special event, and
> waiting for it, is meaningless.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup



 
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      18th Sep 2009

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:07:06 -0400, "JS" <@> wrote:

> Well from what I've seen Microsoft is going to need
> a patch to Windows 7 'Disk Management'.
>
> The RTM has problems when creating partitions
> for multi-boot systems and another issue when
> doing a clean install on a system that has three hard drives.



I can't speak about the multi-boot system issue, since I have no
experience with that. But I can tell you that I have a
three-hard-drive system, and had no problems doing a clean install on
it.



> "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:33:14 +0100, "Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >
> >> > I'm never in favor of waiting for a Service Pack. And I can report
> >> > that Windows 7 is extremely stable, and has no problems that I've
> >> > seen.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I second that - I've been running the RC since it came out, and no
> >> problems
> >> here either. Plus I didn't need any external drivers - all my hardware
> >> was
> >> found and installed in the one Win7 install....great!

> >
> >
> >
> > I ran the RC with no problems from when it was released until RTM.
> > I've been running RTM since then and it continues to be excellent with
> > no problems.
> >
> > Also let me elaborate on what I said about waiting for a service pack.
> > The point in time when a service pack is released is at the discretion
> > of Microsoft and is completely arbitrary. Upgrades and fixes to any
> > version of Windows are released when needed--once a month, normally,
> > but more often when necessary. At some arbitrary point, Microsoft
> > decides to roll up all those upgrades and fixes into one package and
> > calls the result a service pack.
> >
> > There's no particular significance to when that service pack is
> > released, and it doesn't mark a special point of stability. There were
> > upgrades before it and there will be more upgrades after it. Since it
> > has no particular significance, treating it as a special event, and
> > waiting for it, is meaningless.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>


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"Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:07:06 -0400, "JS" <@> wrote:
>
>> Well from what I've seen Microsoft is going to need
>> a patch to Windows 7 'Disk Management'.
>>
>> The RTM has problems when creating partitions
>> for multi-boot systems and another issue when
>> doing a clean install on a system that has three hard drives.

>
>
> I can't speak about the multi-boot system issue, since I have no
> experience with that. But I can tell you that I have a
> three-hard-drive system, and had no problems doing a clean install on
> it.
>
>
>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:33:14 +0100, "Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm never in favor of waiting for a Service Pack. And I can report
>> >> > that Windows 7 is extremely stable, and has no problems that I've
>> >> > seen.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I second that - I've been running the RC since it came out, and no
>> >> problems
>> >> here either. Plus I didn't need any external drivers - all my hardware
>> >> was
>> >> found and installed in the one Win7 install....great!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I ran the RC with no problems from when it was released until RTM.
>> > I've been running RTM since then and it continues to be excellent with
>> > no problems.
>> >
>> > Also let me elaborate on what I said about waiting for a service pack.
>> > The point in time when a service pack is released is at the discretion
>> > of Microsoft and is completely arbitrary. Upgrades and fixes to any
>> > version of Windows are released when needed--once a month, normally,
>> > but more often when necessary. At some arbitrary point, Microsoft
>> > decides to roll up all those upgrades and fixes into one package and
>> > calls the result a service pack.
>> >
>> > There's no particular significance to when that service pack is
>> > released, and it doesn't mark a special point of stability. There were
>> > upgrades before it and there will be more upgrades after it. Since it
>> > has no particular significance, treating it as a special event, and
>> > waiting for it, is meaningless.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>>

>
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Well I have two hard drives configured as logic
drives (each has only a single partition). The third
drive is new and the one I tried to installed Windows 7
(single boot) and 7 fails to create the 100MB system
partition during the install process. I've tried two new
hard drives and both have the same issue. If I remove
the two other drives the Windows 7 installs without any
problems.

The multi-boot problem is another issue, but it to centers
around 'Disk Management' and the ability to create a logical
drive with the remaining free space on the one and only hard drive.

So the way I see it is Disk Management in Windows 7 has
one or more bugs as XP has no problems with mult-boot or
using any of the remaining free space on a new drive.

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      18th Sep 2009
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:45:41 -0400, "JS" <@> wrote:


> "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:07:06 -0400, "JS" <@> wrote:
> >
> >> Well from what I've seen Microsoft is going to need
> >> a patch to Windows 7 'Disk Management'.
> >>
> >> The RTM has problems when creating partitions
> >> for multi-boot systems and another issue when
> >> doing a clean install on a system that has three hard drives.

> >
> >
> > I can't speak about the multi-boot system issue, since I have no
> > experience with that. But I can tell you that I have a
> > three-hard-drive system, and had no problems doing a clean install on
> > it.


> Well I have two hard drives configured as logic
> drives (each has only a single partition). The third
> drive is new and the one I tried to installed Windows 7
> (single boot) and 7 fails to create the 100MB system
> partition during the install process. I've tried two new
> hard drives and both have the same issue. If I remove
> the two other drives the Windows 7 installs without any
> problems.



I have no explanation for why that happened to you, and not enough
experience yet with others installing Windows 7. But I'll repeat that
when I installed it here in a very similar configuration, I didn't
have that problem.

A minor point that's almost certainly unrelated, but I'll mention it
just as a possibility. I clean installed the RC version, not the RTM.
I later upgraded to the RTM version.

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JS
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      18th Sep 2009
Interesting thought, maybe I'll try the RC version
and see what happens.

Thanks

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"Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:45:41 -0400, "JS" <@> wrote:
>
>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:07:06 -0400, "JS" <@> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well from what I've seen Microsoft is going to need
>> >> a patch to Windows 7 'Disk Management'.
>> >>
>> >> The RTM has problems when creating partitions
>> >> for multi-boot systems and another issue when
>> >> doing a clean install on a system that has three hard drives.
>> >
>> >
>> > I can't speak about the multi-boot system issue, since I have no
>> > experience with that. But I can tell you that I have a
>> > three-hard-drive system, and had no problems doing a clean install on
>> > it.

>
>> Well I have two hard drives configured as logic
>> drives (each has only a single partition). The third
>> drive is new and the one I tried to installed Windows 7
>> (single boot) and 7 fails to create the 100MB system
>> partition during the install process. I've tried two new
>> hard drives and both have the same issue. If I remove
>> the two other drives the Windows 7 installs without any
>> problems.

>
>
> I have no explanation for why that happened to you, and not enough
> experience yet with others installing Windows 7. But I'll repeat that
> when I installed it here in a very similar configuration, I didn't
> have that problem.
>
> A minor point that's almost certainly unrelated, but I'll mention it
> just as a possibility. I clean installed the RC version, not the RTM.
> I later upgraded to the RTM version.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup



 
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