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WindowsAssassin
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      13th Mar 2012
Hello,

Media streaming of video files on my pc via the wireless router to my
TV works well using Windows Media Player with media streaming enabled.

However, when I copy these exact same video files to an external hard
drive that is attached to the router via USB, I can see the video
files on my TV but the names are greyed out and I cannot select them
to play on the TV, as if the file format is not supported.

Why is this? The purpose of copying the video files to the external
drive is that I want to be able to stream and watch video's on my TV
without the need to have my pc turned on.

I have:
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Windows Media Player 12
Maxtor external hard drive connected to router via USB
Linksys WRT610N simultaneous dual band router
Home cinema that supports DLNA

Thanks for the help
 
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Paul
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      14th Mar 2012
WindowsAssassin wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Media streaming of video files on my pc via the wireless router to my
> TV works well using Windows Media Player with media streaming enabled.
>
> However, when I copy these exact same video files to an external hard
> drive that is attached to the router via USB, I can see the video
> files on my TV but the names are greyed out and I cannot select them
> to play on the TV, as if the file format is not supported.
>
> Why is this? The purpose of copying the video files to the external
> drive is that I want to be able to stream and watch video's on my TV
> without the need to have my pc turned on.
>
> I have:
> Windows 7 Ultimate x64
> Windows Media Player 12
> Maxtor external hard drive connected to router via USB
> Linksys WRT610N simultaneous dual band router
> Home cinema that supports DLNA
>
> Thanks for the help


The suggestion in the bottom post in this thread, is to check whether
the PC can see the Linksys and access streamed content from the
WRT610N, using Windows Media Player. That would at least prove whether
the WRT610N recognizes the media folder you declared in the setup screen,
and has completed its scan and built a list of media to share.

http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wi...60/td-p/219986

There is a V1 and a V2 version of the WRT610N, which further complicates
any problems they might have. Maybe the V2 has different problems than
the V1.

I suppose the TV might actually have started to stream the content,
checked the format of the video coming across, and decided it wasn't
supported, and that's why it is grayed out. Try testing with a "trivial"
movie format, if you can. Decompress one of your H.264 files and
convert to avi or something, and see if the TV likes that over Wifi.

Paul
 
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Flasherly
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      14th Mar 2012
On Mar 13, 4:23 pm, WindowsAssassin <delta007...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Media streaming of video files on my pc via the wireless router to my
> TV works well using Windows Media Player with media streaming enabled.
>
> However, when I copy these exact same video files to an external hard
> drive that is attached to the router via USB, I can see the video
> files on my TV but the names are greyed out and I cannot select them
> to play on the TV, as if the file format is not supported.
>
> Why is this? The purpose of copying the video files to the external
> drive is that I want to be able to stream and watch video's on my TV
> without the need to have my pc turned on.


I'm not sure how the flat panel relates to a digital video storage
medium. The flat panel contains a tuner for two or three expected
video broadcasting standard, besides a couple extra connects as means
to serve a computer display. There is no such thing as plugging in a
hard disk directly into a monitor. Such a "box," however containing
or supportive of a digital video storage (USB, HD, memory, or optical
disc media), to be so must meet a very generalized and open standard
provided by panel display manufacturers. Further, to as well define
your router within such specifications, as a video broadcasting
device, exceeds how routers are defined. There are tons of such,
boxes dedicated to relaying video output from common stream encodes.
A router, though, to such an end tends to be dedicated to proprietary
services propagating in-house encryption to specialized services and
contracts. Also bear in mind a few years ago when European
commonwealth interests intersected with Microsoft in a law suit.
Microsoft lost within terms characterized industrially as a setback.
The crux of the case, as I understand, concerned Windows Media
Player. Have you considered watching with another player, besides
Microsoft's, one as well adaptable to your "router," perhaps, more or
less for the implicit convenience?
 
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GMAN
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      14th Mar 2012
In article <608fbc4d-75f6-44c7-80da-(E-Mail Removed)>, Flasherly <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Mar 13, 4:23 pm, WindowsAssassin <delta007...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Media streaming of video files on my pc via the wireless router to my
>> TV works well using Windows Media Player with media streaming enabled.
>>
>> However, when I copy these exact same video files to an external hard
>> drive that is attached to the router via USB, I can see the video
>> files on my TV but the names are greyed out and I cannot select them
>> to play on the TV, as if the file format is not supported.
>>
>> Why is this? The purpose of copying the video files to the external
>> drive is that I want to be able to stream and watch video's on my TV
>> without the need to have my pc turned on.

>
>I'm not sure how the flat panel relates to a digital video storage
>medium. The flat panel contains a tuner for two or three expected
>video broadcasting standard, besides a couple extra connects as means
>to serve a computer display. There is no such thing as plugging in a
>hard disk directly into a monitor. Such a "box," however containing
>or supportive of a digital video storage (USB, HD, memory, or optical
>disc media), to be so must meet a very generalized and open standard
>provided by panel display manufacturers. Further, to as well define
>your router within such specifications, as a video broadcasting
>device, exceeds how routers are defined. There are tons of such,
>boxes dedicated to relaying video output from common stream encodes.
>A router, though, to such an end tends to be dedicated to proprietary
>services propagating in-house encryption to specialized services and
>contracts. Also bear in mind a few years ago when European
>commonwealth interests intersected with Microsoft in a law suit.
>Microsoft lost within terms characterized industrially as a setback.
>The crux of the case, as I understand, concerned Windows Media
>Player. Have you considered watching with another player, besides
>Microsoft's, one as well adaptable to your "router," perhaps, more or
>less for the implicit convenience?


Jesus Christ professor, instead of making zero sense, why dont you direct the
man to http://www.dlna.org/

That generalized and open standard you speak of is called DNLA!!! and its not
provided by the panel makers, its standards agreed upon by the indutry.

http://www.dlna.
org/dlna-for-industry/about-dlna-corporate-history/member-companies


Many TV;s nowadays have DLNA capabilities built into them. And the router he
has is supposed to stream video and audio from his wireless router directly to
his TV from a USB attached drive plugged directly into his router.

Did you do too much LSD back in the day???? Becuase what you type makes no
sense to anybody here.
 
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Ting Hsu
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      14th Mar 2012
On Mar 13, 4:23*pm, WindowsAssassin <delta007...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Linksys WRT610N simultaneous dual band router
> Home cinema that supports DLNA


According to the user guide, this router does not actually stream
anything; it can store files, not stream them. You need an external
media player to stream. Nearly all routers that claim to be "media
streaming routers" have this same problem - they only store files, not
stream them.
http://homedownloads.cisco.com/downl..._UG_NC-WEB.pdf

In addition, it is obvious that your TV does not have a media player
built into it. I cannot tell for sure, since you neglected to mention
the make/model of your TV, but that's my guess.

Thus you need a media player somewhere on your network, which means
your choices are...

1. Buy a media playing device, like a Boxee Box, or
2. Build a media playing device, like an HTPC (home theater PC), or
3. Hack an XBox360 or Apple TV with XBMC (a media playing app), or
4. Buy an internet ready TV that can play common video formats (I
would bring a video on a usb drive to test it in the store). As you
now know, not all internet ready TVs support playback of video files.
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delta007bhd@gmail.com
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      15th Mar 2012
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:57:33 UTC+1, Ting Hsu wrote:
> On Mar 13, 4:23*pm, WindowsAssassin <delta007...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Linksys WRT610N simultaneous dual band router
> > Home cinema that supports DLNA

>
> According to the user guide, this router does not actually stream
> anything; it can store files, not stream them. You need an external
> media player to stream. Nearly all routers that claim to be "media
> streaming routers" have this same problem - they only store files, not
> stream them.
> http://homedownloads.cisco.com/downl..._UG_NC-WEB.pdf
>
> In addition, it is obvious that your TV does not have a media player
> built into it. I cannot tell for sure, since you neglected to mention
> the make/model of your TV, but that's my guess.
>
> Thus you need a media player somewhere on your network, which means
> your choices are...
>
> 1. Buy a media playing device, like a Boxee Box, or
> 2. Build a media playing device, like an HTPC (home theater PC), or
> 3. Hack an XBox360 or Apple TV with XBMC (a media playing app), or
> 4. Buy an internet ready TV that can play common video formats (I
> would bring a video on a usb drive to test it in the store). As you
> now know, not all internet ready TVs support playback of video files.
> --
> // T.Hsu


In Windows Media Player I can see at the left under the topic "Other libraries" "PVConnect (WRT610N)". This refers to my external hard drive that's connected to the WRT610N router. This is streamed wirelessly to my Blu-ray home cinema (model Panasonic SC-BT230) that has a USB WiFi dongle plugged in.In it's menu I then select the DLNA Network where I get a list of devices that contains 2 entries. One for my pc that can stream music, videos and photos via Windows Media Player's Library. And another device that's listed as WRT610N which is my external hard drive connected to the router.

@Ting Hsu: You say my router doesn't stream anything. But page 3 from the manual from your link says "The built-in media server streams music, video and photos from the attached storage device to any UPnP-compatible media adapter"

So I copied different video file types onto the external hard drive now to test. An MP4, 2 AVI's, and an MPG video file. All are greyed out except forthe MPG which streams and plays fine on my tv. Note that the other video files stream fine as well but from my pc to the tv and not from the usb drive.
 
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Flasherly
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      15th Mar 2012
On Mar 14, 4:03 pm, Winniethep...@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) wrote:
>
> Jesus Christ professor, instead of making zero sense, why dont you direct the
> man to http://www.dlna.org/
>
> That generalized and open standard you speak of is called DNLA!!! and its not
> provided by the panel makers, its standards agreed upon by the indutry.
>
> http://www.dlna.
> org/dlna-for-industry/about-dlna-corporate-history/member-companies
>
> Many TV;s nowadays have DLNA capabilities built into them. And the router he
> has is supposed to stream video and audio from his wireless router directly to
> his TV from a USB attached drive plugged directly into his router.
>
> Did you do too much LSD back in the day???? Becuase what you type makes no
> sense to anybody here.
> .


Amazing, I suppose, perhaps you then should realize there exists a
corporate membership. I had, although only couched in allusions,
referred to that membership in a sense of 'in-house and proprietary'
cases. But, I think I do see where ignoring a triviality associated
with facts, those I didn't care more closely to inspect or specify,
apparently have transgressed past all a meaning I did convey for a sum
impact of affected ingratiation you're sharing with me. Very well.
Might we then attempt to follow this line of reasoning, were I to
further, openly to submit, a) nothing other than Windows Media Player
will play with such devices, and, b) how should you to react to a
prior suspicion, in point of fact, I may already have sensed to know
prior this, viz in that very supposition I stated prior, that another
player, apart from Microsoft's, first be [dis]qualified? I sincerely
hope, beyond Jesus Christ, LSD, and the greater academia, by now I
will have provided some precious means to that modicum you wish to
share with all. . . . By Zeus my dear man, go for it!
 
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Peter
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      15th Mar 2012
In article <CX58r.120144$(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> In article <608fbc4d-75f6-44c7-80da-(E-Mail Removed)>, Flasherly <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >On Mar 13, 4:23 pm, WindowsAssassin <delta007...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Media streaming of video files on my pc via the wireless router to my
> >> TV works well using Windows Media Player with media streaming enabled.
> >>
> >> However, when I copy these exact same video files to an external hard
> >> drive that is attached to the router via USB, I can see the video
> >> files on my TV but the names are greyed out and I cannot select them
> >> to play on the TV, as if the file format is not supported.
> >>
> >> Why is this? The purpose of copying the video files to the external
> >> drive is that I want to be able to stream and watch video's on my TV
> >> without the need to have my pc turned on.

> >


Sorry, I'm a bit behind on the discussion. Does the TV support playing
of media files directly without any other external media player being
required to play those files? Have you confirmed this works? Does the TV
have USB to allow a direct connection to test this out?

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Flasherly
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      15th Mar 2012
On Mar 15, 5:23 am, Peter <pete.ivesAll_stR...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> Sorry, I'm a bit behind on the discussion. Does the TV support playing
> of media files directly without any other external media player being
> required to play those files? Have you confirmed this works? Does the TV
> have USB to allow a direct connection to test this out?


Probably not. There's only a few such concoctions floating around
with chipped decoder circuitry for maybe premier service provider
contracts. Stuff like Sony Entertainment with the corporate umph
behind it to make it fly. Not the sorts of things apt to be found in
Wallymart. Last I looked their likes require service distribution
centers to agree to pricing contracts before they can carry the
brands. Hence the convenience takes they play about adding it "your
cart" before knowing how much they're into "your wallet" -- of course
requiring that cart first be registered. Let the advertising games
begin anew. Like my new car with a base model requirement in
collusion with Sirius XM satellite streaming, or the $1000 pressure
system monitor off batteries installed into tire valve stems.
Lobbyists hard at work safely insuring four 10-cent battery
replacements are factory certified at an additional $500. Curious if
Cisco is now chipping routers with an interplay off Microsoft's newest
media offerings.
 
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      15th Mar 2012
In article <d90254a9-acf3-486b-80cd-(E-Mail Removed)>, Ting Hsu <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Mar 13, 4:23=A0pm, WindowsAssassin <delta007...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Linksys WRT610N simultaneous dual band router
>> Home cinema that supports DLNA

>
>According to the user guide, this router does not actually stream
>anything; it can store files, not stream them. You need an external
>media player to stream. Nearly all routers that claim to be "media
>streaming routers" have this same problem - they only store files, not
>stream them.
>http://homedownloads.cisco.com/downl..._UG_NC-WEB.pd=
>f
>
>In addition, it is obvious that your TV does not have a media player
>built into it. I cannot tell for sure, since you neglected to mention
>the make/model of your TV, but that's my guess.
>
>Thus you need a media player somewhere on your network, which means
>your choices are...
>
>1. Buy a media playing device, like a Boxee Box, or
>2. Build a media playing device, like an HTPC (home theater PC), or
>3. Hack an XBox360 or Apple TV with XBMC (a media playing app), or
>4. Buy an internet ready TV that can play common video formats (I
>would bring a video on a usb drive to test it in the store). As you
>now know, not all internet ready TVs support playback of video files.



The WRT610N has a built in uPnP/DNLA media server, but you have to turn the
feature on in the router



http://www6.nohold.net/Cisco2/ukp.
aspx?vw=1&docid=d6dc548e38a24088b760cfa3fb190797_17403.xml&pid=96&slnid=3


The OP needs to read chapter 3 of the owners manual and it tells you how to
setup the server in the router

http://homedownloads.cisco.com/downl..._UG_NC-WEB.pdf
 
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