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Robbo
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      30th Oct 2006
I have installed Microsoft Virtual PC. I installed Windows XP pro on a
created virtual machine& virtual disk.

Is it OK to install and activate the same copy of original Windows XP Pro on
the same machine but under Virtual PC ? Can I use the same copy/key or
should I buy another copy just for Virtual PC sessions?

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Malke
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      30th Oct 2006
Robbo wrote:

> I have installed Microsoft Virtual PC. I installed Windows XP pro on a
> created virtual machine& virtual disk.
>
> Is it OK to install and activate the same copy of original Windows XP
> Pro on the same machine but under Virtual PC ? Can I use the same
> copy/key or should I buy another copy just for Virtual PC sessions?
>


No. Operating systems that you install on Virtual PC are real operating
systems - it isn't any different than installing them on separate
computers. You must have a license for each operating system you
install, so to answer your question directly - you will need to buy
another copy of XP just for Virtual PC.

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arachnid
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      30th Oct 2006
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:20:49 -0800, Malke wrote:

> Robbo wrote:
>
>> I have installed Microsoft Virtual PC. I installed Windows XP pro on a
>> created virtual machine& virtual disk.
>>
>> Is it OK to install and activate the same copy of original Windows XP
>> Pro on the same machine but under Virtual PC ? Can I use the same
>> copy/key or should I buy another copy just for Virtual PC sessions?
>>
>>

> No. Operating systems that you install on Virtual PC are real operating
> systems - it isn't any different than installing them on separate
> computers. You must have a license for each operating system you install,
> so to answer your question directly - you will need to buy another copy of
> XP just for Virtual PC.


I was about to disagree with you because the XP EULA doesn't say anything
about VM's. But then I reread it:

"You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Product on
a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
("Workstation Computer"). The Product may not be used by more than two
(2) processors at any one time on any single Workstation Computer."

Although it says nothing about VM's being treated as physical machines
for licensing purposes, it's pretty explicit that you can only "install,
use, access, display, and run one copy...".



 
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Bruce Chambers
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      31st Oct 2006
Robbo wrote:
> I have installed Microsoft Virtual PC. I installed Windows XP pro on a
> created virtual machine& virtual disk.
>
> Is it OK to install and activate the same copy of original Windows XP
> Pro on the same machine but under Virtual PC ? Can I use the same
> copy/key or should I buy another copy just for Virtual PC sessions?
>



According to the EULA, no, you can't:

"Installation and Use. Except as otherwise expressly provided in this
EULA, you may install, use, access, display and run only one (1) copy of
the SOFTWARE on the COMPUTER."

In the scenario you describe, you'd have at least two copies
installed *and* running simultaneously.


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Rob van Albada
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      31st Oct 2006
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:25:26 +0100, "Robbo" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I have installed Microsoft Virtual PC. I installed Windows XP pro on a
>created virtual machine& virtual disk.
>
>Is it OK to install and activate the same copy of original Windows XP Pro on
>the same machine but under Virtual PC ? Can I use the same copy/key or
>should I buy another copy just for Virtual PC sessions?
>
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Of course it is okay. Only greedy Americans with Microsoft stock would
say otherwise. The computer is HARDWARE, a Virtual Computer is NOT
another machine (even thought it is programmed to behave like one), it
uses the very same CPU and the very same bus, the very same video
monitor etcetera.
It is just a piece of software.

Perhaps American lawyers would defend another position, but I doubt
whether an European court would agree.

"Two computers running simultaneously' is nonsense. Similtaneousness
does NOT exist in the real world.

The CPU handles either the program running on the host or a program
running on the guest. Not both at the same time.

The user is YOU, just one person.

Dont let someone fool you!


Kind regards,

Rob van Albada, Amsterdam.






 
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      31st Oct 2006

Rob van Albada wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:25:26 +0100, "Robbo" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I have installed Microsoft Virtual PC. I installed Windows XP pro on a
>>created virtual machine& virtual disk.
>>
>>Is it OK to install and activate the same copy of original Windows XP Pro on
>>the same machine but under Virtual PC ? Can I use the same copy/key or
>>should I buy another copy just for Virtual PC sessions?
>>
>>--
>>rb

>
>
> Of course it is okay. Only greedy Americans with Microsoft stock would
> say otherwise. The computer is HARDWARE, a Virtual Computer is NOT
> another machine (even thought it is programmed to behave like one), it
> uses the very same CPU and the very same bus, the very same video
> monitor etcetera.
> It is just a piece of software.
>
> Perhaps American lawyers would defend another position, but I doubt
> whether an European court would agree.
>
> "Two computers running simultaneously' is nonsense. Similtaneousness
> does NOT exist in the real world.
>
> The CPU handles either the program running on the host or a program
> running on the guest. Not both at the same time.
>
> The user is YOU, just one person.
>
> Dont let someone fool you!
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob van Albada, Amsterdam.
>


Apparently you have not read the contents of the agreement, and are the
one who is being fooled.

 
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Rob van Albada
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      31st Oct 2006
To bad you did not refute any of my arguments.
I do not think copyright law is the same anywhere in the world. Some
US regulations may well be considered invalid in an European court.

Paying guest, my foot!

Regards,

Rob.


>
>Apparently you have not read the contents of the agreement, and are the
>one who is being fooled.
>


 
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Bob I
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      31st Oct 2006
Since your "arguments" were merely opinion, there was nothing to refute.
And since you merely wish to add more opinion regarding validity, the
situation hasn't changed. My observation is that the matter will
eventually resolve down to software enforcement of the EULA and legal
enforcement through DRM of some sort.

Have a good day.

Rob van Albada wrote:

> To bad you did not refute any of my arguments.
> I do not think copyright law is the same anywhere in the world. Some
> US regulations may well be considered invalid in an European court.
>
> Paying guest, my foot!
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob.
>
>
>
>>Apparently you have not read the contents of the agreement, and are the
>>one who is being fooled.
>>

>
>


 
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Bruce Chambers
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      1st Nov 2006
Rob van Albada wrote:
> To bad you did not refute any of my arguments.



You offered no rational arguments to refute.




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Robbo
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      2nd Nov 2006

Użytkownik "Rob van Albada" <(E-Mail Removed)> napisał w wiadomości
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:25:26 +0100, "Robbo" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>I have installed Microsoft Virtual PC. I installed Windows XP pro on a
>>created virtual machine& virtual disk.
>>
>>Is it OK to install and activate the same copy of original Windows XP Pro
>>on
>>the same machine but under Virtual PC ? Can I use the same copy/key or
>>should I buy another copy just for Virtual PC sessions?
>>
>>--
>>rb

>
> The computer is HARDWARE, a Virtual Computer is NOT
> another machine (even thought it is programmed to behave like one), it
> uses the very same CPU and the very same bus, the very same video
> monitor etcetera.
> It is just a piece of software.


This way of thinking would rather proove that I am installing it on the same
machine...

It would conflict with this license agreement point:

"You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Product on
a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
("Workstation Computer")."


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