I have a HP 1220c printer. Prints come out denser (more intense color)and
somewhat darker than shown on monitor screen. can either be adjusted to
match? Using HP paper and HP ink. TIA for any help you can give.

"Warren Weber" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have a HP 1220c printer. Prints come out denser (more intense color)and
> somewhat darker than shown on monitor screen. can either be adjusted to
> match? Using HP paper and HP ink. TIA for any help you can give.

What operating system are you using? What driver - the one supplied with
the OS or one from HP? Depending on the driver you can change the ink
volume in the "advanced" tab in the driver. You may also want to calibrate
your monitor, see http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging

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>> I have a HP 1220c printer. Prints come out denser (more intense color)and
>> somewhat darker than shown on monitor screen. can either be adjusted to
>> match? Using HP paper and HP ink. TIA for any help you can give.
>
> What operating system are you using? What driver - the one supplied with
> the OS or one from HP? Depending on the driver you can change the ink
> volume in the "advanced" tab in the driver. You may also want to
> calibrate your monitor, see
> http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html
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> Regards,
> Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>
Thank you Bob. Will check these items out. This is a great photo printer.
Warren

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:52:58 -0600, in comp.periphs.printers "Warren Weber"
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>I have a HP 1220c printer. Prints come out denser (more intense color)and
>somewhat darker than shown on monitor screen. can either be adjusted to
>match? Using HP paper and HP ink. TIA for any help you can give.

Your first step is to calibrate your monitor. How you do this depends upon
how serious you are about color matching. People who are seriously into
digital photography use an external device with software to do this and
create an ICC profile for their monitor/graphics card combinations.
Colorvision and Getrag are two manufactureres. Then once you have
calibrated and created a good profile, you uce these in a color managed
image editor/printing program along with the proper ICC profile for their
printer's ink and paper combination to obtain a matched print.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tu...-problem.shtml
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tu...int-mgmt.shtml
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/color_management.htm
http://www.dmcphoto.com/Articles/Bas...ent/index.html
http://www.photoshopforphotographers...7fp_color1.pdf
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What are you using as your program to print from? If it is something
like Photoshop, you probably have some type of color management
adjustments such as Adobe Gamma to help to correct for this. That is a
small program that sets the monitor up for a fairly neutral set of
adjustments that should be fairly accurate reproduction of images. Once
you have that set up, you can adjust parameters in the color management
of the printer driver to try to replicate the screen results.

If you do not have a color managed printing program like Photoshop, you
can either adjust the printer to the monitor, the monitor to the
printer, or try bring each half way so they match, using both monitor
settings and printer driver settings.

In general, color management of the PC is still difficult to achieve
without special and fairly costly software and hardware solutions.

It may be worth your while to purchase these if you do a large amount of
printing, or need very accurate results.

Art

Warren Weber wrote:

> I have a HP 1220c printer. Prints come out denser (more intense color)and
> somewhat darker than shown on monitor screen. can either be adjusted to
> match? Using HP paper and HP ink. TIA for any help you can give.
>
>

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:51:42 GMT, in comp.periphs.printers Arthur Entlich
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>In general, color management of the PC is still difficult to achieve
>without special and fairly costly software and hardware solutions.
>
>It may be worth your while to purchase these if you do a large amount of
>printing, or need very accurate results.

I'm going to respectfully disagree with this assessment. Given the cost of
OEM ink and decent paper, I would not deem an ~$75 expenditure on a Pantone
Huey "fairly costly" in the scheme of things.
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Well, I agree that color management hardware is coming down in price,
but I'm not sure the Pantone Huey, at $75 includes full management which
will allow for printer profiles and LUT. It will help, but I believe it
is esencially a color screen calibration tool.

Also, what is the learning curve on it, some are a real bear to work with.

Art

Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:51:42 GMT, in comp.periphs.printers Arthur Entlich
> <e-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>>In general, color management of the PC is still difficult to achieve
>>without special and fairly costly software and hardware solutions.
>>
>>It may be worth your while to purchase these if you do a large amount of
>>printing, or need very accurate results.
>
>
> I'm going to respectfully disagree with this assessment. Given the cost of
> OEM ink and decent paper, I would not deem an ~$75 expenditure on a Pantone
> Huey "fairly costly" in the scheme of things.

It just happens that if one wants to use non OEM ink then Pantone is one
of the reputable mfg. The only issue with Pantone is you will not save
any money over the OEM.

Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:51:42 GMT, in comp.periphs.printers Arthur Entlich
> <e-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>> In general, color management of the PC is still difficult to achieve
>> without special and fairly costly software and hardware solutions.
>>
>> It may be worth your while to purchase these if you do a large amount of
>> printing, or need very accurate results.
>>
>
> I'm going to respectfully disagree with this assessment. Given the cost of
> OEM ink and decent paper, I would not deem an ~$75 expenditure on a Pantone
> Huey "fairly costly" in the scheme of things.
>

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:25:03 GMT, in comp.periphs.printers Arthur Entlich
<e-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Well, I agree that color management hardware is coming down in price,
>but I'm not sure the Pantone Huey, at $75 includes full management which
>will allow for printer profiles and LUT. It will help, but I believe it
>is esencially a color screen calibration tool.

Yes, this is a monitor calibration tool. But, if you use oem ink and
paper you can use the printer manufacturer's profiles, so there is no need
for printer profiling for many users. High end paper manufacturer's also
supply profiles as well. If one wishes to go the complete route there are
folks over in r.p.d. who are happy with third party profiles you have
created by sending in a print.

>Also, what is the learning curve on it, some are a real bear to work with.

I can't speak specifically to the Huey software, but the software that came
with my old Spyder is a snap to use.
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Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:25:03 GMT, in comp.periphs.printers Arthur Entlich
> <e-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>> Well, I agree that color management hardware is coming down in price,
>> but I'm not sure the Pantone Huey, at $75 includes full management which
>> will allow for printer profiles and LUT. It will help, but I believe it
>> is esencially a color screen calibration tool.
>
> Yes, this is a monitor calibration tool. But, if you use oem ink and
> paper you can use the printer manufacturer's profiles, so there is no need
> for printer profiling for many users. High end paper manufacturer's also
> supply profiles as well. If one wishes to go the complete route there are
> folks over in r.p.d. who are happy with third party profiles you have
> created by sending in a print.
>
>> Also, what is the learning curve on it, some are a real bear to work with.
>
> I can't speak specifically to the Huey software, but the software that came
> with my old Spyder is a snap to use.

Room lighting is another important consideration. Unless you're in a
windowless room where the lighting doesn't change, accurate monitor
calibration must be nearly impossible. One window is enough to make a
difference between daytime and nighttime lighting. I'm not very fussy,
and I surely notice a change with my monitor.

The lighting under which you view the prints is equally important.
Change the lighting, and you change the way the print looks.

TJ

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