I have a few problems with being able to use certain commands when
replying to an email using my ISPs email software.

The tech representing my ISP had me check one of my settings in the
software, & where it asked for "html editor", my only choice to click
on was "notepad". She then told me that Windows XP was supposed to
have a html editor already in it, & that having "notepad" listed as my
html editor was the cause of the loss of certain commands. But she
didn't give me the name of the htnl editor I was already supposed to
have in Windows XP.

So please, before I start asking the company who I bought the computer
from (with Windows XP already installed on it & an install CD
provided) - can someone tell me the name of the file that Windows XP
is supposed to have as it's "html editor"?

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You can ignore the following, as the above paragraphs are more
important to me, but here is some addtional information:

(1) I can use these commands in question when I write an email from
scratch.

(2) BUT if I am replying to an email, & in that reply uses the ">"
thingy to mark the quoted text, then these certain commands I'm
talking about cannot be used. (Almost all replies use the " > "
thingy to mark the text).

(3) HOWEVER - If I reply to an email from a friend of mine at
charter.net (do not know which email software he uses), the text quote
indicator is not a " > " thingy, but rather a vertical line runs the
length of the quote, then these commands I'm talking about will work.

Why a " > " indicator in a reply blocks those commands is beyond me..

Any response is appreciated.

"Zardoz" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a few problems with being able to use certain commands when
> replying to an email using my ISPs email software.
>
> The tech representing my ISP had me check one of my settings in the
> software, & where it asked for "html editor", my only choice to click
> on was "notepad". She then told me that Windows XP was supposed to
> have a html editor already in it, & that having "notepad" listed as my
> html editor was the cause of the loss of certain commands. But she
> didn't give me the name of the htnl editor I was already supposed to
> have in Windows XP.
>
> So please, before I start asking the company who I bought the computer
> from (with Windows XP already installed on it & an install CD
> provided) - can someone tell me the name of the file that Windows XP
> is supposed to have as it's "html editor"?
>
> -------------------------------
> You can ignore the following, as the above paragraphs are more
> important to me, but here is some addtional information:
>
> (1) I can use these commands in question when I write an email from
> scratch.
>
> (2) BUT if I am replying to an email, & in that reply uses the ">"
> thingy to mark the quoted text, then these certain commands I'm
> talking about cannot be used. (Almost all replies use the " > "
> thingy to mark the text).
>
> (3) HOWEVER - If I reply to an email from a friend of mine at
> charter.net (do not know which email software he uses), the text quote
> indicator is not a " > " thingy, but rather a vertical line runs the
> length of the quote, then these commands I'm talking about will work.
>
> Why a " > " indicator in a reply blocks those commands is beyond me..
>
> Any response is appreciated.
>

First, unless you have office installed, notepad is your only choice. But
that shouldn't make any difference. I think you need a new ISP tech.

When you're replying to emails, make sure that you're not using "plain
text." You should have options to change the reply to rich text or html.

Windows XP does not come with a HTML editor...but it does come with Notepad
which can be used as a HTML editor (non graphical of course). Why don't you
use Outlook Express or something similar. Outlook Express is included with
Windows XP and is brilliant (IMO)...there are others but I don't really like
them.

"Zardoz" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a few problems with being able to use certain commands when
> replying to an email using my ISPs email software.
>
> The tech representing my ISP had me check one of my settings in the
> software, & where it asked for "html editor", my only choice to click
> on was "notepad". She then told me that Windows XP was supposed to
> have a html editor already in it, & that having "notepad" listed as my
> html editor was the cause of the loss of certain commands. But she
> didn't give me the name of the htnl editor I was already supposed to
> have in Windows XP.
>
> So please, before I start asking the company who I bought the computer
> from (with Windows XP already installed on it & an install CD
> provided) - can someone tell me the name of the file that Windows XP
> is supposed to have as it's "html editor"?
>
> -------------------------------
> You can ignore the following, as the above paragraphs are more
> important to me, but here is some addtional information:
>
> (1) I can use these commands in question when I write an email from
> scratch.
>
> (2) BUT if I am replying to an email, & in that reply uses the ">"
> thingy to mark the quoted text, then these certain commands I'm
> talking about cannot be used. (Almost all replies use the " > "
> thingy to mark the text).
>
> (3) HOWEVER - If I reply to an email from a friend of mine at
> charter.net (do not know which email software he uses), the text quote
> indicator is not a " > " thingy, but rather a vertical line runs the
> length of the quote, then these commands I'm talking about will work.
>
> Why a " > " indicator in a reply blocks those commands is beyond me..
>
> Any response is appreciated.
>

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:55:32 +0800, "Matthew Shaw"
<matted@[REMOVETHIS]bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Windows XP does not come with a HTML editor...but it does come with Notepad
>which can be used as a HTML editor (non graphical of course). Why don't you
>use Outlook Express or something similar. Outlook Express is included with
>Windows XP and is brilliant (IMO)...there are others but I don't really like
>them.

So, I dealt with an idiot then. She was North American & it wasn't
farmed out to India like so many other companies are doing. If I can
use those commands (change foreground color, change background color,
italics, insert a picture) when writing an email from scratch, then my
editor must be able to handle it. But why then when replying, it
cannot handle those commands. Hmmmmm. I've got to get to the bottom
of this..

Thanks for the reply.

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:35:57 -0700, "D.Currie"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>First, unless you have office installed, notepad is your only choice. But
>that shouldn't make any difference. I think you need a new ISP tech.
>
>When you're replying to emails, make sure that you're not using "plain
>text." You should have options to change the reply to rich text or html.

Thanks for the reply. Yes, Iwill flame my ISP in their internal
newsgroups. If for some reason it automatically changes to plain text
when hitting reply, then there must be a problem with the software.
I will; investigate further.

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 06:15:15 GMT, Zardoz <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I have a few problems with being able to use certain commands when
>replying to an email using my ISPs email software.

Thank you, you two, for answering me.

I checked, after reading your replies here, & yes - my Email
software, when replying to an email, is changing to "plain text" mode
for some reason. & only when it uses the " > " thingy is used to mark
quoted text - replying to an email from a different source does not
use the " > " thingy to mark quoted text, & I am not thrown into
"plain text" mode, I stay in html mode. (all emails though, except
from one guy I know, use the " > " thingy when I reply to them, so
I've got to solve this.

"Zardoz" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 06:15:15 GMT, Zardoz <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >I have a few problems with being able to use certain commands when
> >replying to an email using my ISPs email software.
>
> Thank you, you two, for answering me.
>
> I checked, after reading your replies here, & yes - my Email
> software, when replying to an email, is changing to "plain text" mode
> for some reason. & only when it uses the " > " thingy is used to mark
> quoted text - replying to an email from a different source does not
> use the " > " thingy to mark quoted text, & I am not thrown into
> "plain text" mode, I stay in html mode. (all emails though, except
> from one guy I know, use the " > " thingy when I reply to them, so
> I've got to solve this.
>
G'Day Zardoz,
I can't answer all your issues, but here is a few thoughts.
1/ The ">" are called indents, and can be selected either as > or |,
depending on choice.
I suppose the default is > as this is the most common. Every time a reply is
re posted another > or |, is added to the next author's statement, so that
the order of posting can be seen from oldest to latest. The latest has the
most > or |.
2/ Mail can be set up "To reply in the same format as received". So if
you have been posting in Plain text, rather than Rich text( HTML), your
receiving client most probably has the same response on their computer, so
you get back Plain text, and graphics do not get displayed as in Rich Text
format..
This does not explain why you cannot insert a file though.

When you use HTML formatting, and the recipient's e-mail or news program
does not read HTML, the message appears as plain text with an HTML file
attached. The recipient can view the attached file by opening it in any Web
browser

Rob.

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 22:40:56 +1000, "Rob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>G'Day Zardoz,
>I can't answer all your issues, but here is a few thoughts.
> 1/ The ">" are called indents, and can be selected either as > or |,
>depending on choice.
>I suppose the default is > as this is the most common. Every time a reply is
>re posted another > or |, is added to the next author's statement, so that
>the order of posting can be seen from oldest to latest. The latest has the
>most > or |.
>2/ Mail can be set up "To reply in the same format as received". So if
>you have been posting in Plain text, rather than Rich text( HTML), your
>receiving client most probably has the same response on their computer, so
>you get back Plain text, and graphics do not get displayed as in Rich Text
>format..
>This does not explain why you cannot insert a file though.
>
>When you use HTML formatting, and the recipient's e-mail or news program
>does not read HTML, the message appears as plain text with an HTML file
>attached. The recipient can view the attached file by opening it in any Web
>browser

Thanks for your reply. I now know to use the term "indents".

As far as setting up the email. in my settings, there is a choice of
either "html" or "plain text". Html is checked, & of couse that's why
I can write an email in html. But I cannot find anywhere in my email
program where it would indicate i have a choice to reply in the same
format as recieved.

I always post in html. & I receive in html. But I cannot reply in
html. - well not completely true - I found in my email program, when
in "reply" mode, with the "format" command, I find the choice between
html & "plain text" is checked as "plain text". I can change it to
html, & it works for whatever I write, but of course it already made
the quoted text into "plain text', so that part of the reply has lost
it's html qualities. & also choosing "forward" the email does the
same thing as reply does - the email loses it's html qualities.

I have to find out more about the "reply in the format it was
recieved" thing you mention.

"Zardoz" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 22:40:56 +1000, "Rob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >G'Day Zardoz,
> >I can't answer all your issues, but here is a few thoughts.
> > 1/ The ">" are called indents, and can be selected either as > or |,
> >depending on choice.
> >I suppose the default is > as this is the most common. Every time a reply
is
> >re posted another > or |, is added to the next author's statement, so
that
> >the order of posting can be seen from oldest to latest. The latest has
the
> >most > or |.
> >2/ Mail can be set up "To reply in the same format as received". So if
> >you have been posting in Plain text, rather than Rich text( HTML), your
> >receiving client most probably has the same response on their computer,
so
> >you get back Plain text, and graphics do not get displayed as in Rich
Text
> >format..
> >This does not explain why you cannot insert a file though.
> >
> >When you use HTML formatting, and the recipient's e-mail or news program
> >does not read HTML, the message appears as plain text with an HTML file
> >attached. The recipient can view the attached file by opening it in any
Web
> >browser
>
> Thanks for your reply. I now know to use the term "indents".
>
> As far as setting up the email. in my settings, there is a choice of
> either "html" or "plain text". Html is checked, & of course that's why
> I can write an email in html. But I cannot find anywhere in my email
> program where it would indicate I have a choice to reply in the same
> format as recieved.
>
> I always post in html. & I receive in html. But I cannot reply in
> html. - well not completely true - I found in my email program, when
> in "reply" mode, with the "format" command, I find the choice between
> html & "plain text" is checked as "plain text". I can change it to
> html, & it works for whatever I write, but of course it already made
> the quoted text into "plain text', so that part of the reply has lost
> it's html qualities. & also choosing "forward" the email does the
> same thing as reply does - the email loses it's html qualities.
>
> I have to find out more about the "reply in the format it was
> recieved" thing you mention.
>
G'Day Zardoz Again,
"To reply in the same format as received, on this Newsgroup pane your
looking at now, click on :Tools/Options/Send/ There is a check box 6 th from
the top.

Your 2 nd last paragraph is a very good explanation of the process of how to
use HTML & Plain text in an E mail, although please note that it seems to be
expected norm to post to News groups in Plain Text only,as you have done, I
expect it is a throw back to Dos .
If you copy and paste HTML into a plain text post, that also becomes plain
text, and looks very plain, hence the name I suppose.
Rob.