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      25th Aug 2003
Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my office, running
W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I can see
where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.

In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:

0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board

AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000. This is
presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And my ISA
board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and this is the
only one that works).

For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the motherboard,
right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?

How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to 0xD0800? Can
I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because I have to
use this ISA card and it wants this space?


 
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      25th Aug 2003

"Jim Turner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:34:06 GMT, "FN"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my office,

running
> >W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I can

see
> >where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.
> >
> >In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:
> >
> > 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
> > 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board
> >
> >AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000. This is
> >presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And my ISA
> >board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and this is

the
> >only one that works).
> >
> >For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the motherboard,
> >right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?
> >
> >How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to 0xD0800?

Can
> >I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because I have

to
> >use this ISA card and it wants this space?
> >

> More details about what the ISA board is might help, along with what
> board you are using. There are few boards produced now with an ISA
> slot. Need to know what you have so the problem can be avoided.
>
> JT




Jim, the board shouldn't matter. I would say, but no one has heard of it.
It's made for the biotech industry, costs a fortune, and I have to use
0xD0000 to 0xD0800 with that board because the board won't load under any
other memory address (theoretically, it can, but it detects conflicts at
every other address but this range). So, back to my earlier questions
above...


 
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      25th Aug 2003
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:31:21 GMT, "FN"
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>
>"Jim Turner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:34:06 GMT, "FN"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my office,

>running
>> >W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I can

>see
>> >where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.
>> >
>> >In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:
>> >
>> > 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
>> > 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board
>> >
>> >AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000. This is
>> >presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And my ISA
>> >board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and this is

>the
>> >only one that works).
>> >
>> >For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the motherboard,
>> >right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?
>> >
>> >How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to 0xD0800?

>Can
>> >I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because I have

>to
>> >use this ISA card and it wants this space?
>> >

>> More details about what the ISA board is might help, along with what
>> board you are using. There are few boards produced now with an ISA
>> slot. Need to know what you have so the problem can be avoided.
>>
>> JT

>
>
>
>Jim, the board shouldn't matter. I would say, but no one has heard of it.
>It's made for the biotech industry, costs a fortune, and I have to use
>0xD0000 to 0xD0800 with that board because the board won't load under any
>other memory address (theoretically, it can, but it detects conflicts at
>every other address but this range). So, back to my earlier questions
>above...
>

What motherboard are you using? Wasn't clear that I wanted that info
to. Chipsets can make a difference on what address ranges are used.


 
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      25th Aug 2003

"Jim Turner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:31:21 GMT, "FN"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jim Turner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:34:06 GMT, "FN"
> >> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my office,

> >running
> >> >W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I can

> >see
> >> >where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.
> >> >
> >> >In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:
> >> >
> >> > 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
> >> > 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board
> >> >
> >> >AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000. This

is
> >> >presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And my

ISA
> >> >board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and this

is
> >the
> >> >only one that works).
> >> >
> >> >For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the

motherboard,
> >> >right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?
> >> >
> >> >How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to

0xD0800?
> >Can
> >> >I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because I

have
> >to
> >> >use this ISA card and it wants this space?
> >> >
> >> More details about what the ISA board is might help, along with what
> >> board you are using. There are few boards produced now with an ISA
> >> slot. Need to know what you have so the problem can be avoided.
> >>
> >> JT

> >
> >
> >
> >Jim, the board shouldn't matter. I would say, but no one has heard of

it.
> >It's made for the biotech industry, costs a fortune, and I have to use
> >0xD0000 to 0xD0800 with that board because the board won't load under any
> >other memory address (theoretically, it can, but it detects conflicts at
> >every other address but this range). So, back to my earlier questions
> >above...
> >

> What motherboard are you using? Wasn't clear that I wanted that info
> to. Chipsets can make a difference on what address ranges are used.
>
>



The motherboard is an old Pentium II-300 based ASUS P2B motherboard.
Thanks.


 
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      27th Aug 2003

"FN" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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:
: "Jim Turner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: news:(E-Mail Removed)...
: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:31:21 GMT, "FN"
: > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: >
: > >
: > >"Jim Turner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: > >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
: > >> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:34:06 GMT, "FN"
: > >> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: > >>
: > >> >Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my office,
: > >running
: > >> >W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I
can
: > >see
: > >> >where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.
: > >> >
: > >> >In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:
: > >> >
: > >> > 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
: > >> > 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board
: > >> >
: > >> >AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000.
This
: is
: > >> >presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And my
: ISA
: > >> >board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and
this
: is
: > >the
: > >> >only one that works).
: > >> >
: > >> >For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the
: motherboard,
: > >> >right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?
: > >> >
: > >> >How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to
: 0xD0800?
: > >Can
: > >> >I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because I
: have
: > >to
: > >> >use this ISA card and it wants this space?
: > >> >
: > >> More details about what the ISA board is might help, along with what
: > >> board you are using. There are few boards produced now with an ISA
: > >> slot. Need to know what you have so the problem can be avoided.
: > >>
: > >> JT
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > >Jim, the board shouldn't matter. I would say, but no one has heard of
: it.
: > >It's made for the biotech industry, costs a fortune, and I have to use
: > >0xD0000 to 0xD0800 with that board because the board won't load under
any
: > >other memory address (theoretically, it can, but it detects conflicts
at
: > >every other address but this range). So, back to my earlier questions
: > >above...
: > >
: > What motherboard are you using? Wasn't clear that I wanted that info
: > to. Chipsets can make a difference on what address ranges are used.
: >
: >
:
:
: The motherboard is an old Pentium II-300 based ASUS P2B motherboard.
: Thanks.
:
:
Does a PII processor meet the minimum specs for W2K? Not to put too fine a
point on it if its a 24/7 "important" process is a $20 system really the
right place to run it? I believe there are ISA to PCI adaptors that may be
cheaper than a new bio-board. Alternatively you should be able to buy
refurbed MBs with ISA on them.

W2K is not the world's sturdiest OS. XP is much more stable but it
certainly won't run worth a darn on a PII. I've run with both and I play
around with the shareware a lot so it tends to be unstable to begin with and
XP is in my opinion a lot more sturdy.

LOL
claus

LOL

 
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      27th Aug 2003
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:39:01 GMT, "FN"
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>
>
>The motherboard is an old Pentium II-300 based ASUS P2B motherboard.
>Thanks.
>


Might not be able to do what you want. The addresses and irq of the
chipsets/motherboard resources are hardwired. Unusual that an ISA card
would use that address range. Remove all other cards except video in
the system and use just the ISA card with different settings. Get this
working and resolve the conflicts with other cards as you plug them
back in one at a time.
 
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      27th Aug 2003
thanks for telling me that they are hardwired. there are no other cards,
by the way, except a raid card, which i also can't remove, and a network
card (which I suppose I could remove).


"Jim Turner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:39:01 GMT, "FN"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> >The motherboard is an old Pentium II-300 based ASUS P2B motherboard.
> >Thanks.
> >

>
> Might not be able to do what you want. The addresses and irq of the
> chipsets/motherboard resources are hardwired. Unusual that an ISA card
> would use that address range. Remove all other cards except video in
> the system and use just the ISA card with different settings. Get this
> working and resolve the conflicts with other cards as you plug them
> back in one at a time.



 
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"santa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "FN" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> :
> : "Jim Turner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> : news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> : > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:31:21 GMT, "FN"
> : > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> : >
> : > >
> : > >"Jim Turner" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> : > >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> : > >> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:34:06 GMT, "FN"
> : > >> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> : > >>
> : > >> >Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my

office,
> : > >running
> : > >> >W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I
> can
> : > >see
> : > >> >where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.
> : > >> >
> : > >> >In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:
> : > >> >
> : > >> > 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
> : > >> > 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board
> : > >> >
> : > >> >AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000.
> This
> : is
> : > >> >presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And

my
> : ISA
> : > >> >board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and
> this
> : is
> : > >the
> : > >> >only one that works).
> : > >> >
> : > >> >For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the
> : motherboard,
> : > >> >right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?
> : > >> >
> : > >> >How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to
> : 0xD0800?
> : > >Can
> : > >> >I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because

I
> : have
> : > >to
> : > >> >use this ISA card and it wants this space?
> : > >> >
> : > >> More details about what the ISA board is might help, along with

what
> : > >> board you are using. There are few boards produced now with an ISA
> : > >> slot. Need to know what you have so the problem can be avoided.
> : > >>
> : > >> JT
> : > >
> : > >
> : > >
> : > >Jim, the board shouldn't matter. I would say, but no one has heard

of
> : it.
> : > >It's made for the biotech industry, costs a fortune, and I have to

use
> : > >0xD0000 to 0xD0800 with that board because the board won't load under
> any
> : > >other memory address (theoretically, it can, but it detects conflicts
> at
> : > >every other address but this range). So, back to my earlier

questions
> : > >above...
> : > >
> : > What motherboard are you using? Wasn't clear that I wanted that info
> : > to. Chipsets can make a difference on what address ranges are used.
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
> : The motherboard is an old Pentium II-300 based ASUS P2B motherboard.
> : Thanks.
> :
> :
> Does a PII processor meet the minimum specs for W2K? Not to put too fine

a
> point on it if its a 24/7 "important" process is a $20 system really the
> right place to run it? I believe there are ISA to PCI adaptors that may

be
> cheaper than a new bio-board. Alternatively you should be able to buy
> refurbed MBs with ISA on them.
>
> W2K is not the world's sturdiest OS. XP is much more stable but it
> certainly won't run worth a darn on a PII. I've run with both and I play
> around with the shareware a lot so it tends to be unstable to begin with

and
> XP is in my opinion a lot more sturdy.
>
> LOL
> claus
>
> LOL
>




Thanks for nothing. Yes, a pII is fine with w2k! It's not a money thing,
but rather a compatibility issue. XP and other newer stuff is not
compatible.


 
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      28th Aug 2003
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:57:05 GMT, "FN"
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>thanks for telling me that they are hardwired. there are no other cards,
>by the way, except a raid card, which i also can't remove, and a network
>card (which I suppose I could remove).
>
>

Remove the network card and see what you can do. Or move it and the
raid to a different PCI slot. PCI Address ranges are usually assigned
based on which slot you plug into. If you aren't booting off the raid
(or can temporarily set it up without it) get it working there first.
Then add cards. Might need a different NIC (which is cheap) or RAID
controller (not as cheap)

Hope this Helps

Jim

PS. what other address ranges does the card accept, and what devices
are using those addresses.

 
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