"Navyguy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:d6fcef41-3a97-4510-a36c-(E-Mail Removed)...
I have a Dell Dimension 8200 running IE8 with XP, SP3 , Windows
Firewall, Avira antivirus, Spybot (for updates only), Spywareblaster,
ATF and Hive Cleanup and all the programs work well together and are
up to date.

Tonight, I turned the power off too soon while the computer was still
powering down. I can still for the present at least logon to the
Internet; however each time I’ve done so Chkdsk pops up and starts to
scan the system. I cancel it and then it lets me in.

I’ve tried powering it off and back on and also selecting F8 and
trying the last settings that worked but it still does the same thing
and Chkdsk comes up. Is there a way to fix this so that my system is
back to normal or have I seriously damaged the HD beyond repair?


The hard drive has not been damaged but it is essential that you let chkdsk
run to completion
even if it takes several hours


<snip>

Navyguy wrote:
> On Nov 4, 10:35 pm, Unk<n...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:17:23 -0600, Ken Springer<wordwo...@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/4/11 7:22 PM, Navyguy wrote:
>>>> Tonight, I turned the power off too soon while the computer was still
>>>> powering down. I can still for the present at least logon to the
>>>> Internet; however each time I’ve done so Chkdsk pops up and starts to
>>>> scan the system. I cancel it and then it lets me in.
>>
>>> There is a way to cancel this, using the Run command I believe. I did
>>> it once, long ago, but don't remember how. :-(
>>
>> You're thinking of: chkntfs /d (chkntfs /? will give you all the options)
>>
>> Chkntfs displays or modifies the checking of disk at boot time.
>> The /d switch restores the machine to the default behavior; all drives are
>> checked at boot time and chkdsk is run on those that are dirty.
>>
>> The OP should let chkdsk run.. He encountered corruption by turning off while still powering
>> down. Chkdsk /f can correct a lot of the problems. David's answer will fix the rest.
>>
>> Unk
>
>
> Willl try David suggestion but where do I type the comands?
>
> Since Chkdsk wasn't able to complete do you think that Chkdsk /f would
> function? If so, what should I do and how?
>
> Thanks,
> Robert


Click Start > Run > type in command.
The Command Prompt will appear and it will do the disk check when the
system is restarted. Or, even better, start the system to Safe Mode with
Command Prompt by pressing the F8 key prior to Windows loading -

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222


MowGreen
================
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
================

"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked

From: "Navyguy" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> On Nov 4, 7:14 pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
> wrote:
>> From: "Navyguy" <maginee...@yahoo.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have a Dell Dimension 8200 running IE8 with XP, SP3 , Windows
>>> Firewall, Avira antivirus, Spybot (for updates only), Spywareblaster,
>>> ATF and Hive Cleanup and all the programs work well together and are
>>> up to date.
>>
>>> Tonight, I turned the power off too soon while the computer was still
>>> powering down. I can still for the present at least logon to the
>>> Internet; however each time I’ve done so Chkdsk pops up and starts to
>>> scan the system. I cancel it and then it lets me in.
>>
>>> I’ve tried powering it off and back on and also selecting F8 and
>>> trying the last settings that worked but it still does the same thing
>>> and Chkdsk comes up. Is there a way to fix this so that my system is
>>> back to normal or have I seriously damaged the HD beyond repair?
>>
>>> The only other issues in the system that I’m aware of are that Spybot
>>> won’t complete its passive immunization. This happened before and it
>>> cleared up with the next update.
>>
>>> I also have a warning from Avira after scanning the system (it shows
>>> up every time):
>>
>>> C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download
>>> \9fb5ed881f4ba5e862205ff43febecec\BITD.tmp
>>> [0] Archive type: CAB SFX (self extracting)
>>> --> _sfx_0012._p
>>> [WARNING] The file could not be written!
>>
>>> Lastly, I’ve been getting this intermittent message lately when I log
>>> on:
>>
>>> “To free up disk space Outlook Express can compact messages. This may
>>> take up to a few minutes”. I have Outlook but I don’t use it.
>>
>>> Thoughts/ Suggestions?
>>
>> Corruption not HD damage.
>>
>> net stop wuauserv
>>
>> rename
>> C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution
>> to
>> C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution.bak
>>
>> net start wuauserv
>>
>> CHKDSK C: /f
>>
>> if it asks if the OS should run Check Disk and startup, choose Yes and reboot.
>>
>> You can keep; C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution.bak
>> or you can delete it after a week. When you do delete it, you will no longer have the
>> Avira CAB SFX error.
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>> Multi-AV Scanning
>> Tool -http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.ukhttp://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp-
>> Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I downloaded and ran the Malwarebytes Anti-Malware program and did a
> full scan of the C: drive and it found:
>
> C:\Windows\reggenieonuninstall.exe
>
> I removed it successfully
>
> Then let Chkdsk run this time. It never got past 1 of 3 however and
> stayed in a loop all night until I canceled it.
>
> Prior to this, the other night the computer went straight to the Boot
> Device menu right after powering up. I didn’t touch a thing.
>
> Keyboard was locked up with the unlined number flashing. After
> pressing Enter a number of times it finally released and Chkdsk came
> up. Then Windows flash, and logon screen.
>
> After restarting, Windows shutting down>Dell flash>Chkdsk (cancelled)
>
> I tried looking for the Indexing options to modify/clear the check box
> for Outlook Express but I can’t seem to find it. Is it under a
> category? under Admin tools?
>
> @David H. Lipman – sorry for sounding stupid but where exactly am I am
> suppose to type the commands? At the run command? I did start the
> procedure but when I typed rename it didn’t recognize it?
>
>
>
> Thoughts/ Suggestions?
>

Start --> run
type; CMD

Then type; net stop wuauserv { hit enter }

Then go to Windows Explorer and browse to; C:\WINDOWS
find the folder; SoftwareDistribution
rename the folder; SoftwareDistribution.bak

Then go bacj to the Comand Prompt window
type; CHKDSK C: /f { hit enter }

If it asks if the OS should run Check Disk and startup, choose Yes and then reboot.

NOTE: If Check Disk (CHKDSK) fails to complete and/or it continues to show up at every
boot then we are back at the subject of this thread "HD damage". The hard disk is failing
and will need to be replaced.



--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

From: "MowGreen" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> Navyguy wrote:
>> On Nov 4, 10:35 pm, Unk<n...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:17:23 -0600, Ken Springer<wordwo...@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/4/11 7:22 PM, Navyguy wrote:
>>>>> Tonight, I turned the power off too soon while the computer was still
>>>>> powering down. I can still for the present at least logon to the
>>>>> Internet; however each time I’ve done so Chkdsk pops up and starts to
>>>>> scan the system. I cancel it and then it lets me in.
>>>
>>>> There is a way to cancel this, using the Run command I believe. I did
>>>> it once, long ago, but don't remember how. :-(
>>>
>>> You're thinking of: chkntfs /d (chkntfs /? will give you all the options)
>>>
>>> Chkntfs displays or modifies the checking of disk at boot time.
>>> The /d switch restores the machine to the default behavior; all drives are
>>> checked at boot time and chkdsk is run on those that are dirty.
>>>
>>> The OP should let chkdsk run.. He encountered corruption by turning off while still
>>> powering down. Chkdsk /f can correct a lot of the problems. David's answer will fix
>>> the rest.
>>>
>>> Unk
>>
>>
>> Willl try David suggestion but where do I type the comands?
>>
>> Since Chkdsk wasn't able to complete do you think that Chkdsk /f would
>> function? If so, what should I do and how?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert
>
>
> Click Start > Run > type in command.
> The Command Prompt will appear and it will do the disk check when the system is
> restarted. Or, even better, start the system to Safe Mode with Command Prompt by
> pressing the F8 key prior to Windows loading -
>
> A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222
>
>

MowGreen:

Happy Thanks Giving !
How the heck are you ?
Its been quite a while and I haven't even see you on MWR.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

On Nov 5, 1:51*pm, MowGreen <mowgr...@nowandzen.com> wrote:
> Navyguy wrote:
> > On Nov 4, 10:35 pm, Unk<n...@aol.com> *wrote:
> >> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:17:23 -0600, Ken Springer<wordwo...@greeleynet.com> *wrote:
> >>> On 11/4/11 7:22 PM, Navyguy wrote:
> >>>> Tonight, I turned the power off too soon while the computer was still
> >>>> powering down. I can still for the present at least logon to the
> >>>> Internet; however each time I’ve done so Chkdsk pops up and startsto
> >>>> scan the system. *I cancel it and then it lets me in.
>
> >>> There is a way to cancel this, using the Run command I believe. *I did
> >>> it once, long ago, but don't remember how. *:-(
>
> >> You're thinking of: * * chkntfs /d * (chkntfs /? *will give you all the options)
>
> >> Chkntfs displays or modifies the checking of disk at boot time.
> >> The /d switch restores the machine to the default behavior; all drivesare
> >> checked at boot time and chkdsk is run on those that are dirty.
>
> >> The OP should let chkdsk run.. *He encountered corruption by turningoff while still powering
> >> down. *Chkdsk /f can correct a lot of the problems. *David's answer will fix the rest.
>
> >> Unk
>
> > Willl try David suggestion but where do I type the comands?
>
> > Since Chkdsk wasn't able to complete do you think that Chkdsk /f would
> > function? If so, what should I do and how?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Robert
>
> Click Start > Run > type in command.
> The Command Prompt will appear and it will do the disk check when the
> system is restarted. Or, even better, start the system to Safe Mode with
> Command Prompt by pressing the F8 key prior to Windows loading -
>
> A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XPhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222
>
> MowGreen
> ================
> * *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ================
>
> "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I've already try to let Chkdsk run and complete and it ran for 6 hours
and still hadn't completed 1 of 3. If its going to run, it shouldn't
take that long. It's in a loop.

Thanks,
Robert

On Nov 5, 3:02*pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
wrote:
> From: "Navyguy" <maginee...@yahoo.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 4, 7:14 pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
> > wrote:
> >> From: "Navyguy" <maginee...@yahoo.com>
>
> >>> I have a Dell Dimension 8200 running IE8 with XP, SP3 , Windows
> >>> Firewall, Avira antivirus, Spybot (for updates only), Spywareblaster,
> >>> ATF and Hive Cleanup and all the programs work well together and are
> >>> up to date.
>
> >>> Tonight, I turned the power off too soon while the computer was still
> >>> powering down. I can still for the present at least logon to the
> >>> Internet; however each time I’ve done so Chkdsk pops up and starts to
> >>> scan the system. *I cancel it and then it lets me in.
>
> >>> I’ve tried powering it off and back on and also selecting F8 and
> >>> trying the last settings that worked but it still does the same thing
> >>> and Chkdsk comes up. *Is there a way to fix this so that my system is
> >>> back to normal or have I seriously damaged the HD beyond repair?
>
> >>> The only other issues in the system that I’m aware of are that Spybot
> >>> won’t complete its passive immunization. This happened before and it
> >>> cleared up with the next update.
>
> >>> I also have a warning from Avira after scanning the system (it shows
> >>> up every time):
>
> >>> *C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download
> >>> \9fb5ed881f4ba5e862205ff43febecec\BITD.tmp
> >>> * [0] Archive type: CAB SFX (self extracting)
> >>> * --> _sfx_0012._p
> >>> * * * [WARNING] * The file could not be written!
>
> >>> Lastly, I’ve been getting this intermittent message lately when I log
> >>> on:
>
> >>> “To free up disk space Outlook Express can compact messages. This may
> >>> take up to a few minutes”. I have Outlook but I don’t use it.
>
> >>> Thoughts/ Suggestions?
>
> >> Corruption not HD damage.
>
> >> net stop wuauserv
>
> >> rename
> >> C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution
> >> to
> >> C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution.bak
>
> >> net start wuauserv
>
> >> CHKDSK C: /f
>
> >> if it asks if the OS should run Check Disk and startup, choose Yes andreboot.
>
> >> You can keep; *C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution.bak
> >> or you can delete it after a week. *When you do delete it, you will no longer have the
> >> Avira CAB SFX error.
>
> >> --
> >> Dave
> >> Multi-AV Scanning
> >> Tool -http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.ukhttp://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/3...
> >> Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I downloaded and ran the Malwarebytes Anti-Malware program and did a
> > full scan of the C: drive and it found:
>
> > C:\Windows\reggenieonuninstall.exe
>
> > I removed it successfully
>
> > Then let Chkdsk run this time. *It never got past 1 of 3 however and
> > stayed in a loop all night until I canceled it.
>
> > Prior to this, the other night the computer went straight to the Boot
> > Device menu right after powering up. I didn’t touch a thing.
>
> > Keyboard was locked up with the unlined number flashing. After
> > pressing Enter a number of times it finally released and Chkdsk came
> > up. *Then Windows flash, and logon screen.
>
> > After restarting, Windows shutting down>Dell flash>Chkdsk (cancelled)
>
> > I tried looking for the Indexing options to modify/clear the check box
> > for Outlook Express but I can’t seem to find it. Is it under a
> > category? under Admin tools?
>
> > @David H. Lipman – sorry for sounding stupid but where exactly am I am
> > suppose to type the commands? At the run command? *I did start the
> > procedure but when I typed rename it didn’t recognize it?
>
> > Thoughts/ Suggestions?
>
> Start --> run
> type; *CMD
>
> Then type; *net stop wuauserv { hit enter }
>
> Then go to Windows Explorer and browse to; *C:\WINDOWS
> find the folder; SoftwareDistribution
> rename the folder; *SoftwareDistribution.bak
>
> Then go bacj to the Comand Prompt window
> type; *CHKDSK C: /f *{ hit enter }
>
> If it asks if the OS should run Check Disk and startup, choose Yes and then reboot.
>
> NOTE: * *If Check Disk (CHKDSK) fails to complete and/or it continuesto show up at every
> boot then we are back at the subject of this thread "HD damage". *The hard disk is failing
> and will need to be replaced.
>
> --
> Dave
> Multi-AV Scanning Tool -http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.ukhttp://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



I typed up to net stop wuauserv and it says:

system error 5 has occurred.

Access denied

C:\Documents and Settings\Rob>


Suggestions? Thoughts? Would a System Restore correct the problem?

Thanks,
Robert

From: "Navyguy" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> On Nov 5, 1:51 pm, MowGreen <mowgr...@nowandzen.com> wrote:
>> Navyguy wrote:
>>> On Nov 4, 10:35 pm, Unk<n...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:17:23 -0600, Ken Springer<wordwo...@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/4/11 7:22 PM, Navyguy wrote:
>>>>>> Tonight, I turned the power off too soon while the computer was still
>>>>>> powering down. I can still for the present at least logon to the
>>>>>> Internet; however each time I’ve done so Chkdsk pops up and starts to
>>>>>> scan the system. I cancel it and then it lets me in.
>>
>>>>> There is a way to cancel this, using the Run command I believe. I did
>>>>> it once, long ago, but don't remember how. :-(
>>
>>>> You're thinking of: chkntfs /d (chkntfs /? will give you all the options)
>>
>>>> Chkntfs displays or modifies the checking of disk at boot time.
>>>> The /d switch restores the machine to the default behavior; all drives are
>>>> checked at boot time and chkdsk is run on those that are dirty.
>>
>>>> The OP should let chkdsk run.. He encountered corruption by turning off while still
>>>> powering down. Chkdsk /f can correct a lot of the problems. David's answer will fix
>>>> the rest.
>>
>>>> Unk
>>
>>> Willl try David suggestion but where do I type the comands?
>>
>>> Since Chkdsk wasn't able to complete do you think that Chkdsk /f would
>>> function? If so, what should I do and how?
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robert
>>
>> Click Start > Run > type in command.
>> The Command Prompt will appear and it will do the disk check when the
>> system is restarted. Or, even better, start the system to Safe Mode with
>> Command Prompt by pressing the F8 key prior to Windows loading -
>>
>> A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XPhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222
>>
>> MowGreen
>> ================
>> *-343-* FDNY
>> Never Forgotten
>> ================
>>
>> "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked- Hide quoted
>> text
>> -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I've already try to let Chkdsk run and complete and it ran for 6 hours
> and still hadn't completed 1 of 3. If its going to run, it shouldn't
> take that long. It's in a loop.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert

Who is the hard disk manufacturer (IBM/Hitachi, SeaGate, Western Digital, etc.) of the
disk in your computer ?


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

On Nov 5, 1:51*pm, MowGreen <mowgr...@nowandzen.com> wrote:
> Navyguy wrote:
> > On Nov 4, 10:35 pm, Unk<n...@aol.com> *wrote:
> >> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:17:23 -0600, Ken Springer<wordwo...@greeleynet.com> *wrote:
> >>> On 11/4/11 7:22 PM, Navyguy wrote:
> >>>> Tonight, I turned the power off too soon while the computer was still
> >>>> powering down. I can still for the present at least logon to the
> >>>> Internet; however each time I’ve done so Chkdsk pops up and startsto
> >>>> scan the system. *I cancel it and then it lets me in.
>
> >>> There is a way to cancel this, using the Run command I believe. *I did
> >>> it once, long ago, but don't remember how. *:-(
>
> >> You're thinking of: * * chkntfs /d * (chkntfs /? *will give you all the options)
>
> >> Chkntfs displays or modifies the checking of disk at boot time.
> >> The /d switch restores the machine to the default behavior; all drivesare
> >> checked at boot time and chkdsk is run on those that are dirty.
>
> >> The OP should let chkdsk run.. *He encountered corruption by turningoff while still powering
> >> down. *Chkdsk /f can correct a lot of the problems. *David's answer will fix the rest.
>
> >> Unk
>
> > Willl try David suggestion but where do I type the comands?
>
> > Since Chkdsk wasn't able to complete do you think that Chkdsk /f would
> > function? If so, what should I do and how?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Robert
>
> Click Start > Run > type in command.
> The Command Prompt will appear and it will do the disk check when the
> system is restarted. Or, even better, start the system to Safe Mode with
> Command Prompt by pressing the F8 key prior to Windows loading -
>
> A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XPhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222
>
> MowGreen
> ================
> * *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ================
>
> "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'll try that.

Thanks,
Robert

On Nov 5, 5:26*pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
wrote:
> From: "Navyguy" <maginee...@yahoo.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 5, 1:51 pm, MowGreen <mowgr...@nowandzen.com> wrote:
> >> Navyguy wrote:
> >>> On Nov 4, 10:35 pm, Unk<n...@aol.com> *wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:17:23 -0600, Ken Springer<wordwo...@greeleynet.com> *wrote:
> >>>>> On 11/4/11 7:22 PM, Navyguy wrote:
> >>>>>> Tonight, I turned the power off too soon while the computer was still
> >>>>>> powering down. I can still for the present at least logon to the
> >>>>>> Internet; however each time I’ve done so Chkdsk pops up and starts to
> >>>>>> scan the system. *I cancel it and then it lets me in.
>
> >>>>> There is a way to cancel this, using the Run command I believe. *I did
> >>>>> it once, long ago, but don't remember how. *:-(
>
> >>>> You're thinking of: * * chkntfs /d * (chkntfs /? *will give you all the options)
>
> >>>> Chkntfs displays or modifies the checking of disk at boot time.
> >>>> The /d switch restores the machine to the default behavior; all drives are
> >>>> checked at boot time and chkdsk is run on those that are dirty.
>
> >>>> The OP should let chkdsk run.. *He encountered corruption by turning off while still
> >>>> powering down. *Chkdsk /f can correct a lot of the problems. *David's answer will fix
> >>>> the rest.
>
> >>>> Unk
>
> >>> Willl try David suggestion but where do I type the comands?
>
> >>> Since Chkdsk wasn't able to complete do you think that Chkdsk /f would
> >>> function? If so, what should I do and how?
>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Robert
>
> >> Click Start > Run > type in command.
> >> The Command Prompt will appear and it will do the disk check when the
> >> system is restarted. Or, even better, start the system to Safe Mode with
> >> Command Prompt by pressing the F8 key prior to Windows loading -
>
> >> A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XPhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222
>
> >> MowGreen
> >> ================
> >> * *-343-* FDNY
> >> Never Forgotten
> >> ================
>
> >> "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked- Hide quoted
> >> text
> >> -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I've already try to let Chkdsk run and complete and it ran for 6 hours
> > and still hadn't completed 1 of 3. If its going to run, it shouldn't
> > take that long. It's in a loop.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Robert
>
> Who is the hard disk manufacturer (IBM/Hitachi, SeaGate, Western Digital,etc.) of the
> disk in your computer ?
>
> --
> Dave
> Multi-AV Scanning Tool -http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.ukhttp://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



Seagate I believe.

R

Navyguy wrote:
> I've already try to let Chkdsk run and complete and it ran for 6 hours
> and still hadn't completed 1 of 3. If its going to run, it shouldn't
> take that long. It's in a loop.
>

Get the disk drive manufacturers hard drive test program and run that to test
the drive itself.