Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
web site has a manual, I can't find it.

http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp

I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
thing ?

Thanks


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Al Dykes
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On 28 Oct 2003 16:20:50 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) (Al Dykes) wrote:

>
>Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
>heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
>very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
>web site has a manual, I can't find it.
>
>http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
>
>I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
>thing ?

PC Chips is one of those outfits that garnered a shitty reputation
early on and for many people (me included) that bad taste has never
left. Thusly, if someone gave one to me, I'd see how far I could
throw it.






*´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-> Ratz O. Fratzo

cheap & cheerful mobo's. i`d consider buying one for a 'fill in' board. eg,
if i needed a pc now, but planned to upgrade in the near-ish future (6months
or so)

not really a permanent board. see if your budget can stretch to an abit,
asus, soltek, gigabyte etc

tim
"Al Dykes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bnmmji$al5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
> heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
> very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
> web site has a manual, I can't find it.
>
> http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
>
> I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
> thing ?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --
> Al Dykes
> -----------
> (E-Mail Removed)
>

In article <bnmoqq$ee$(E-Mail Removed)>,
\(\) |V| 3 G A <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>cheap & cheerful mobo's. i`d consider buying one for a 'fill in' board. eg,
>if i needed a pc now, but planned to upgrade in the near-ish future (6months
>or so)
>
>not really a permanent board. see if your budget can stretch to an abit,
>asus, soltek, gigabyte etc
>

It's (a) a Flex mobo, (b) cheap, and (c) fast enough.

I want to build a dedicated-function Linux box out of it.

Thanks


>tim
>"Al Dykes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:bnmmji$al5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
>> heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
>> very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
>> web site has a manual, I can't find it.
>>
>> http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
>>
>> I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
>> thing ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> --
>> Al Dykes
>> -----------
>> (E-Mail Removed)
>>
>
>


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Al Dykes
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(E-Mail Removed)

In article <bnmmji$al5$(E-Mail Removed)>, Al Dykes <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
-
-Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
-heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
-very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
-web site has a manual, I can't find it.
-
-http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
-
-I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
-thing ?

PC CHIPS is a low end MB manufacturer. Low cost, suspect quality, and high
end infant mortality are their hallmarks. I have several M810s that are 3 years
old and I'm happy with them. Just be prepared to bring bad ones back.

BAJ

"Al Dykes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bnmmji$al5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
> heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
> very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
> web site has a manual, I can't find it.
>
> http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
>
> I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything about this
> thing ?
>
> Thanks
>


over the last 3 or 3 years i must have built over 300 machines...mostly
from surplus parts

the only board that ever casued me a problem was a PC Chips board

the system was so unstable that i actually had to underclock my amd-450
to 366mhz

not only that, it had on-board video...but if i used it
the modem would not work !

i think i;d pass on the PC Chips boards

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:58:50 +0000 (UTC), \(\) |V| 3 G A
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>not really a permanent board. see if your budget can stretch to an abit,
>asus, soltek, gigabyte etc

My personal experience of Asus is not good. I bought quite a few Asus
MBs for the office where I work and we have had what I consider to be
an unacceptable failure rate (but don't ask me for numbers, because I
don't have them).

At this point, I'm not sure what is a good brand to buy for reliability.

"Joe Dunning" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:e9Knb.54003$Fm2.33787@attbi_s04...
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:58:50 +0000 (UTC), \(\) |V| 3 G A
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >not really a permanent board. see if your budget can stretch to an abit,
> >asus, soltek, gigabyte etc
>
> My personal experience of Asus is not good. I bought quite a few Asus
> MBs for the office where I work and we have had what I consider to be
> an unacceptable failure rate (but don't ask me for numbers, because I
> don't have them).
>
> At this point, I'm not sure what is a good brand to buy for reliability.

I would have to say that is a minority view. The majority of people who have
spoken about Asus boards have given them much praise, with very few
complaints about them. Considering their increased sales over the last
quarter as well I think Asus are going to be set to dominate the market
completely. The P4P800 is now classed as the "mobo to have" pretty much if
you ar a pentium user, which the majority still are. Of course every
manufacturer will have their boards that blow, or dont work out of the box,
but all in all Asus I would say are best of the field to date.

Daniel

> >Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
> >heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
> >very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
> >web site has a manual, I can't find it.
> >
> >http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m851luv13.asp
> >
> >I'd like to run linux on it. Does anyone know anything
about this
> >thing ?
>
> PC Chips is one of those outfits that garnered a shitty
reputation
> early on and for many people (me included) that bad taste has
never
> left. Thusly, if someone gave one to me, I'd see how far I
could
> throw it.

Hehe. We run across various PC Chips systems and components
under a plethora of other names (PCWare, Amptron, Eurone,
Matsonic, et al). I've seen some odd behavior from them over
the years ranging from nonfunctional ACPI and DMA, intentional
underclocked bus speeds (100MHz reported, ~90MHz actual),
drivers which are labeled Not For Production, flaky BIOSs,
chipset obfuscation, etc. To their credit, quality has been
improved somewhat. Once they're up and running, they're
usually fine.

Like many, I have never really forgiven them for the fake cache
debacle from the 486 days. If cost is an issue, I would go
with other low-cost boards from ECS or ASRock.

"Michael J. Apollyon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:NMQnb.29365$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >Newegg has a motherboard small motherboard brand I've never
> > >heard of; PC CHIPS and the model is M851LU. I can find
> > >very little about this via google, and if the manufacturer's
> > >web site has a manual, I can't find it.
<snip>
> Like many, I have never really forgiven them for the fake cache
> debacle from the 486 days. If cost is an issue, I would go
> with other low-cost boards from ECS or ASRock.

I've been running an Asrock (ASUS value line) K7VM2
with Duron 900 for about eight weeks. Decent quality mobo
for the (very inexpensive) price. Reasonably documented.

Be aware the Asrock support is nothing like ASUS. If
you feel that you might want a bit of vendor support with
your purchase, look elsewhere (or at least check the
vendor web site before buying.)

I'm not complaining. I paid a very low price and got
everything the vendor promised. Stable. No issues.
Nice cheap way to utilize spare parts to build a
reliable machine.

Not a good choice for people who want support
articles, knowledge base, overclocking, etc.