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NuQ
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      15th Mar 2005
A friend got a Western Digital 250 GB IDE hard drive a few months ago. I
installed the new drive, installed XP Pro and a few other pieces of software
for him. About a week later the PC wouldn't boot. It would just hang right
after the POST. No way to safe mode or anything.

The BIOS still saw the drive.
I could boot from the XP disc and XP sees the drive.
I ran the WD diag tools and all came up clean.

I booted from the XP disc, formatted the drive as NFTS (full format) and
installed XP again. Reinstalled the apps and all was well for about 3
months, maybe longer. No problems.

All of a sudden, it happens again. Same thing. Gets stuck right after the
POST. I can put the drive in my system and save the data from the drive. I
ran AV and Spyware checks - no problems. I did see the drive was heavily
fragmented though.

This time I booted from the XP disc and ran Recovery Console. I can get in,
so I ran FIXMBR. No help. I did recovery again and tried FIXBOOT. No
help.

What in the world is causing this? Any suggestions besides RMA'ing the
drive?


 
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      15th Mar 2005
NuQ <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> A friend got a Western Digital 250 GB IDE hard drive a few months
> ago. I installed the new drive, installed XP Pro and a few other
> pieces of software for him. About a week later the PC wouldn't boot.
> It would just hang right after the POST. No way to safe mode or
> anything.
> The BIOS still saw the drive.
> I could boot from the XP disc and XP sees the drive.
> I ran the WD diag tools and all came up clean.
>
> I booted from the XP disc, formatted the drive as NFTS (full format)
> and installed XP again. Reinstalled the apps and all was well for
> about 3 months, maybe longer. No problems.
>
> All of a sudden, it happens again. Same thing. Gets stuck right
> after the POST. I can put the drive in my system and save the data
> from the drive. I ran AV and Spyware checks - no problems. I did
> see the drive was heavily fragmented though.
>
> This time I booted from the XP disc and ran Recovery Console. I can
> get in, so I ran FIXMBR. No help. I did recovery again and tried
> FIXBOOT. No help.
>
> What in the world is causing this? Any suggestions besides RMA'ing
> the drive?


Oh, I forgot to mention...I tried putting the drive in my system and booting
from it, but it would just get caught in a reboot loop. Never tried to load
Windows. Right after POST, the PC would just restart.

Maybe there is a bad sector in the boot portion of the drive? I didn't do a
low level format. Should I?


 
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      15th Mar 2005
NuQ wrote:
> A friend got a Western Digital 250 GB IDE hard drive a few months ago. I
> installed the new drive, installed XP Pro and a few other pieces of software
> for him. About a week later the PC wouldn't boot. It would just hang right
> after the POST. No way to safe mode or anything.
>
> The BIOS still saw the drive.
> I could boot from the XP disc and XP sees the drive.
> I ran the WD diag tools and all came up clean.
>
> I booted from the XP disc, formatted the drive as NFTS (full format) and
> installed XP again. Reinstalled the apps and all was well for about 3
> months, maybe longer. No problems.
>
> All of a sudden, it happens again. Same thing. Gets stuck right after the
> POST. I can put the drive in my system and save the data from the drive. I
> ran AV and Spyware checks - no problems. I did see the drive was heavily
> fragmented though.
>
> This time I booted from the XP disc and ran Recovery Console. I can get in,
> so I ran FIXMBR. No help. I did recovery again and tried FIXBOOT. No
> help.
>
> What in the world is causing this? Any suggestions besides RMA'ing the
> drive?


It could be a power supply. Has a new video card been put into the box
recently? If the supply cannot deliver what is expected of it, you can
get chronic hard drive corruption.
 
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      15th Mar 2005
Grinder <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> NuQ wrote:
>> A friend got a Western Digital 250 GB IDE hard drive a few months
>> ago. I installed the new drive, installed XP Pro and a few other
>> pieces of software for him. About a week later the PC wouldn't
>> boot. It would just hang right after the POST. No way to safe mode
>> or anything. The BIOS still saw the drive.
>> I could boot from the XP disc and XP sees the drive.
>> I ran the WD diag tools and all came up clean.
>>
>> I booted from the XP disc, formatted the drive as NFTS (full format)
>> and installed XP again. Reinstalled the apps and all was well for
>> about 3 months, maybe longer. No problems.
>>
>> All of a sudden, it happens again. Same thing. Gets stuck right
>> after the POST. I can put the drive in my system and save the data
>> from the drive. I ran AV and Spyware checks - no problems. I did
>> see the drive was heavily fragmented though.
>>
>> This time I booted from the XP disc and ran Recovery Console. I can
>> get in, so I ran FIXMBR. No help. I did recovery again and tried
>> FIXBOOT. No help.
>>
>> What in the world is causing this? Any suggestions besides RMA'ing
>> the drive?

>
> It could be a power supply. Has a new video card been put into the
> box recently? If the supply cannot deliver what is expected of it,
> you can get chronic hard drive corruption.


Thanks for the reply. I didn't think about the power supply. No video card
was added. However, there were 3 items that were replaced. The CD-RW drive
was replaced with a DVD-RW and the 20GB hard drive was replaced with the
250GB drive. Also, I added more RAM.

I just looked at the PS and it's a tiny 100W! I guess that's all it needed
when it was made, but 100W sure does seem too little. It's one of those
micro ATX PCs from HP. It's an HP Pavilion XE783.


 
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      15th Mar 2005
NuQ wrote:
> Grinder <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>NuQ wrote:
>>
>>>A friend got a Western Digital 250 GB IDE hard drive a few months
>>>ago. I installed the new drive, installed XP Pro and a few other
>>>pieces of software for him. About a week later the PC wouldn't
>>>boot. It would just hang right after the POST. No way to safe mode
>>>or anything. The BIOS still saw the drive.
>>>I could boot from the XP disc and XP sees the drive.
>>>I ran the WD diag tools and all came up clean.
>>>
>>>I booted from the XP disc, formatted the drive as NFTS (full format)
>>>and installed XP again. Reinstalled the apps and all was well for
>>>about 3 months, maybe longer. No problems.
>>>
>>>All of a sudden, it happens again. Same thing. Gets stuck right
>>>after the POST. I can put the drive in my system and save the data
>>>from the drive. I ran AV and Spyware checks - no problems. I did
>>>see the drive was heavily fragmented though.
>>>
>>>This time I booted from the XP disc and ran Recovery Console. I can
>>>get in, so I ran FIXMBR. No help. I did recovery again and tried
>>>FIXBOOT. No help.
>>>
>>>What in the world is causing this? Any suggestions besides RMA'ing
>>>the drive?

>>
>>It could be a power supply. Has a new video card been put into the
>>box recently? If the supply cannot deliver what is expected of it,
>>you can get chronic hard drive corruption.

>
>
> Thanks for the reply. I didn't think about the power supply. No video card
> was added. However, there were 3 items that were replaced. The CD-RW drive
> was replaced with a DVD-RW and the 20GB hard drive was replaced with the
> 250GB drive. Also, I added more RAM.
>
> I just looked at the PS and it's a tiny 100W! I guess that's all it needed
> when it was made, but 100W sure does seem too little. It's one of those
> micro ATX PCs from HP. It's an HP Pavilion XE783.


That definitely sounds like a problem. You can use this online
calculator to get a ballpark figure for power consumption:

http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/

 
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