"Susan Bugher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Paul Blarmy wrote:
>> On 21 Dec 2004 12:23:51 GMT, Roger Johansson wrote...
>
>>>But you are right about the number of voters, I guess, 73 is a big number
>>>of participators.
>>
>> The one thing that none of us will ever know for sure is exactly how many
>> people read this group either regularly or infrequently. 73 is a big
>> number in a group of a hundred or so, but is less impressive if there are
>> millions of readers.
>
> erm. . . there's info about that here:
>
> MSR Netscan - Usenet Social Accounting Search Engine
> alt.comp.freeware report card
>
> http://netscan.research.microsoft.co....comp.freeware
>
> That's not the whole story these days - as some web sites are displaying
> the ACF newsgroup as a forum.
>
> Susan
> --

That's a very useful site which could be included on the site information
posts. I was amused to find a "rival" newsgroup, alt.freeware, which had a
600% increase in the number of posts (up from one to seven!) and a 200%
increase in people (up from one to three!). Well, I suppose they have to
start somewhere.

===

Frank Bohan
¶ When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

Paul Blarmy wrote:

> Erm........ that relates to posts doesn't it? I'm referring to the number
> of people actually reading this group which is surely incalculable.

Sorry. I read your post too hastily. You are correct - the web page
shows an estimate of the number of people who posted to ACF. (The
numbers are approximate since some people post under more than one name.)

re incalculable: A statistical survey could probably come up with a
pretty good estimate of the number of people who actually read ACF - I
don't know of a link to such a survey (or if one has ever been done).

Susan
--
Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org
ACF FAQ: http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html
ACF wiki: http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AcfWiki

Hi,

a little bit off-topic perhaps, but I want to let you know that I am one of
the (million) "passive" readers of acf. About eight weeks ago I discovered
acf and since then I read the posts daily. Keep it up!

Ferry (snorre) from Raalte Holland.

"Paul Blarmy" <(E-Mail Removed)> schreef in bericht
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:54:38 -0500, Susan Bugher wrote...
>
> > > The one thing that none of us will ever know for sure is exactly how
many
> > > people read this group either regularly or infrequently. 73 is a big
> > > number in a group of a hundred or so, but is less impressive if there
are
> > > millions of readers.
> >
> > erm. . . there's info about that here:
>
> Erm........ that relates to posts doesn't it? I'm referring to the number
> of people actually reading this group which is surely incalculable.
>
> --
> EMail address is disposable and NEVER checked.
> Outgoing message is certified VIRUS FREE by
> *me* using nothing more than common sense.

Susan Bugher wrote:
> I suggest you see if the people in *ACFG* would like to mention the
> Freeware logo on the *ACFG* web pages at
> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acfg/acfg.php
> I think you have a certain amount of influence over there. . .

I do? Oh, that guy made that page! I'll break both his legs if he
doesn't do what I tell him! ;-)

> Yes you are. I dunno about an entire *ACF* web page for the logo
> but. . .

Well, can't blame a guy for trying! :-)

Seriously, Susan: There has been no feedback on the possible inclusion
of the freeware logo on the pricelessware pages. You know, you could
just use the image whereever you see fit I you want to. What about the
acf information page? The most important think is that the image is
being used and people learning what it represents.


Regards from Vegard


--
Vegard Krog Petersen - Norway

My sites:
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Solitaire MahJongg: http://home.halden.net/vkp/vkp/
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Chinese Checkers: http://home.no.net/vkp/
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Sarah Michelle Gellar Solitaire: http://home.halden.net/vkp/
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Freeware Logo: http://home.no/buffy2/
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My fishy site (fishing games): http://home.no/vkp32/
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Fredrikshald Havfiskeklubb: http://www.fredrikshald-havfiske.no
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dszady <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
newsan.2004.12.21.18.35.42.30681@Nigeria:

> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:57:59 -0600, burnr wrote:
>
>> Vegard Krog Petersen <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:cq7i6r$6ba$(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>>> dszady wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:46:52 +0100, Vegard Krog Petersen wrote:
>
>> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp/LinkButtons
>> This is what I've done so far for Susan Nothing spectacular.
>> The view.htm and view.php are a couple small "viewer" files. I prefer
>> the htm viewer.
>> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp...ttons/view.htm
>
> So....
> Is there going to be vote or is it a pick one and put it on our web
> sites? I like most of them myself. Good job!
>

Thnx

Having reread my post (and not wanting to sound like I'm taking credit
for someone elses work) I should add that I did not make 2003.gif,
2003button.gif, or 2004.gif. I did add the animation to
2003button2.gif.

The other buttons I did make. Also, I just realized
pricelesswarebutton.png doesn't show with the htm viewer. oops.
It looks like this
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp...warebutton.png
and was made using this web resource:
http://kalsey.com/tools/buttonmaker/

--
burnr
http://freeware4u.com

Susan Bugher <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Second that. Thanks Burnr!
>
> Susan

yw

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burnr
http://freeware4u.com

Vegard Krog Petersen wrote:

> Susan Bugher wrote:
> > I suggest you see if the people in *ACFG* would like to mention the
> > Freeware logo on the *ACFG* web pages at
> > http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acfg/acfg.php
> > I think you have a certain amount of influence over there. . .
>
> I do? Oh, that guy made that page! I'll break both his legs if he
> doesn't do what I tell him! ;-)

After you "reason" with him let me know what needs to be changed on
the ACFG pages.

I revised the acf Members page to point to the directory with the new
(and old) Pricelessware buttons. While I was doing that I added a link
to the Freeware logo site (I used one of the smaller Freeware images for
the link). see: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Members.php

Susan
--
Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org
ACF FAQ: http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html
ACF wiki: http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AcfWiki

Frank Bohan wrote:

> "Susan Bugher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...

>>MSR Netscan - Usenet Social Accounting Search Engine
>>alt.comp.freeware report card
>>
>>http://netscan.research.microsoft.co....comp.freeware

> That's a very useful site which could be included on the site information
> posts.

ISTM the acf info posts should be short - only *essential* info. FWIW -
that site *is* listed on the Links page.
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Links.php

I was amused to find a "rival" newsgroup, alt.freeware, which had a
> 600% increase in the number of posts (up from one to seven!) and a 200%
> increase in people (up from one to three!). Well, I suppose they have to
> start somewhere.

With numbers like that it's hard to go anywhere but up.

Susan
--
Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org
ACF FAQ: http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html
ACF wiki: http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AcfWiki

On 21 Dec 2004 13:35:56 GMT, Roger Johansson <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>>>seabat <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't recall any documentation
>>>> that specifically awards the wing symbol to bikers exclusively.
>>>
>>>Bikers have taken all of their signs from the military, especially the
>>>german military, to get respect.
>>>
>>>They do not know the difference between respect and fear, so they use the
>>>most frightening symbols they know about. Nazi military signs, german
>>>shepherd dogs, the swastika, etc..

Says who? What source are you using for an authority to make a
statement like that??

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The Seabat