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Dave Dawson
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      20th Jul 2005
A client has a two computer network with XP Pro and W98. I set up the C
drive on the XP Pro to share with the other computer, and all the other
computer can see is a password request for IPC$. I have shared the drive as
C.
I even removed the ethernet connection (which the network is using) from the
firewall.
According to what I have read, using the simple sharing on XP should make
the drive available to every user on the network as guest.
What am I missing?

Thanks,
Dave


 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]
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      20th Jul 2005
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Dave Dawson"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>A client has a two computer network with XP Pro and W98. I set up the C
>drive on the XP Pro to share with the other computer, and all the other
>computer can see is a password request for IPC$. I have shared the drive as
>C.
>I even removed the ethernet connection (which the network is using) from the
>firewall.
>According to what I have read, using the simple sharing on XP should make
>the drive available to every user on the network as guest.
>What am I missing?
>
>Thanks,
>Dave


Firewall problems block access completely -- they don't cause password
prompts. I recommend turning the XP firewall back on.

Run the Network Setup Wizard on the XP Pro computer (and only on XP,
even if it tells you to run it on the other computer). That's often
all that's needed to fix the problem.

If that doesn't do the job:

1. Make sure that the XP Guest account is enabled for network access
by typing this line at a command prompt:

net user guest /active:yes

2. Remove any network password from the XP Guest account:

a. Click Start | Run.
b. Type "control userpasswords2" in the box and click OK:
c. Click Guest.
d. Click Reset Password.
e. Click OK without entering a new password.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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Dave Dawson
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      22nd Jul 2005
I ran the network setup wizard and it accomplished nothing. I ran the "net
user guest /active:yes" and "control userpasswords2" I gave the computers
fixed IP addresses and made sure they were both on the same workgroup. I
can see the shared resources on the W98 computer from the XP Pro one. I can
see the icon for the XP Pro one on the W98 one, and when I double-click on
it, I get a password request for \\Dell-001\IPC$. The C: drive has a folder
shared as "data". I have had the C: drive shared as C. I can almost always
get W2k Pro to network with about anything. Has M$ outsmarted itself again
with XP by trying to be too cute?

Dave

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Dave Dawson"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>A client has a two computer network with XP Pro and W98. I set up the C
>>drive on the XP Pro to share with the other computer, and all the other
>>computer can see is a password request for IPC$. I have shared the drive
>>as
>>C.
>>I even removed the ethernet connection (which the network is using) from
>>the
>>firewall.
>>According to what I have read, using the simple sharing on XP should make
>>the drive available to every user on the network as guest.
>>What am I missing?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dave

>
> Firewall problems block access completely -- they don't cause password
> prompts. I recommend turning the XP firewall back on.
>
> Run the Network Setup Wizard on the XP Pro computer (and only on XP,
> even if it tells you to run it on the other computer). That's often
> all that's needed to fix the problem.
>
> If that doesn't do the job:
>
> 1. Make sure that the XP Guest account is enabled for network access
> by typing this line at a command prompt:
>
> net user guest /active:yes
>
> 2. Remove any network password from the XP Guest account:
>
> a. Click Start | Run.
> b. Type "control userpasswords2" in the box and click OK:
> c. Click Guest.
> d. Click Reset Password.
> e. Click OK without entering a new password.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com



 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]
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      22nd Jul 2005
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Dave Dawson"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>A client has a two computer network with XP Pro and W98. I set up the C
>>>drive on the XP Pro to share with the other computer, and all the other
>>>computer can see is a password request for IPC$. I have shared the drive as
>>>C.
>>>I even removed the ethernet connection (which the network is using) from the
>>>firewall.
>>>According to what I have read, using the simple sharing on XP should make
>>>the drive available to every user on the network as guest.
>>>What am I missing?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Dave

>>
>>Firewall problems block access completely -- they don't cause password
>>prompts. I recommend turning the XP firewall back on.
>>
>>Run the Network Setup Wizard on the XP Pro computer (and only on XP,
>>even if it tells you to run it on the other computer). That's often
>>all that's needed to fix the problem.
>>
>>If that doesn't do the job:
>>
>>1. Make sure that the XP Guest account is enabled for network access
>>by typing this line at a command prompt:
>>
>> net user guest /active:yes
>>
>>2. Remove any network password from the XP Guest account:
>>
>> a. Click Start | Run.
>> b. Type "control userpasswords2" in the box and click OK:
>> c. Click Guest.
>> d. Click Reset Password.
>> e. Click OK without entering a new password.

>
>I ran the network setup wizard and it accomplished nothing. I ran the "net
>user guest /active:yes" and "control userpasswords2" I gave the computers
>fixed IP addresses and made sure they were both on the same workgroup. I
>can see the shared resources on the W98 computer from the XP Pro one. I can
>see the icon for the XP Pro one on the W98 one, and when I double-click on
>it, I get a password request for \\Dell-001\IPC$. The C: drive has a folder
>shared as "data". I have had the C: drive shared as C. I can almost always
>get W2k Pro to network with about anything. Has M$ outsmarted itself again
>with XP by trying to be too cute?
>
>Dave


Un-share and re-share the folder on XP Pro and see if that solves the
problem. If it doesn't, keep reading.

Is simple file sharing enabled or disabled on XP Pro? To see, open My
Computer, click Tools | Folder Options | View, and scroll to the end
of the list.

If simple file sharing is enabled, the steps that I gave should solve
the problem.

If simple file sharing is disabled, network access to XP Pro works
just like network access to W2K Pro, with the exception that, by
default, XP Pro requires passwords on user accounts for network
access. Create a user account on XP with the same user name and
password that you use to log onto W98.

If those steps don't solve the problem, there are a couple of more
obscure things to check, depending on whether simple file sharing is
enabled or disabled.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Dave Dawson
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      22nd Jul 2005
Simple file sharing is enabled. I had the client un-share and re-share the
folder, and that didn't help.

When I did net view \\DELL-001 on the W98 it tells me that access is denied,
but in the sharing dialog box, the message at the bottom says the folder is
available through the firewall.

Here is a CDiag read-out I took earlier this morning:

CDiagnosis V1.32
Start diagnosis for DELL-001

Adhoc Browser View

Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\DELL-001 TCE-DELL-001
\\TCE-002 FRONT
The command completed successfully.


Full Targets DELL-001 192.168.0.1 TCE-002 192.168.0.3 127.0.0.1

Target DELL-001

"DELL-001 ping DELL-001"
DELL-001

"DELL-001 net view DELL-001"

Shared resources at DELL-001

TCE-DELL-001

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
data Disk
HPDeskJe Print HP DeskJet 722C
Printer Print Peachtree E-mail Writer
Printer2 Print Intuit Internal Printer
Printer4 Print HP DeskJet 720C
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.0.1

"DELL-001 ping 192.168.0.1"
192.168.0.1

"DELL-001 net view 192.168.0.1"

Shared resources at 192.168.0.1

TCE-DELL-001

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
data Disk
HPDeskJe Print HP DeskJet 722C
Printer Print Peachtree E-mail Writer
Printer2 Print Intuit Internal Printer
Printer4 Print HP DeskJet 720C
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target TCE-002

"DELL-001 ping TCE-002"
TCE-002

"DELL-001 net view TCE-002"


Target 192.168.0.3

"DELL-001 ping 192.168.0.3"
192.168.0.3

"DELL-001 net view 192.168.0.3"


Target 127.0.0.1

"DELL-001 ping 127.0.0.1"
127.0.0.1

"DELL-001 net view 127.0.0.1"

Shared resources at 127.0.0.1

TCE-DELL-001

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
data Disk
HPDeskJe Print HP DeskJet 722C
Printer Print Peachtree E-mail Writer
Printer2 Print Intuit Internal Printer
Printer4 Print HP DeskJet 720C
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Ping Targets www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32

Target www.yahoo.com

"DELL-001 ping www.yahoo.com"



Pinging www.yahoo.akadns.net [216.109.117.110] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 216.109.117.110: bytes=32 time=262ms TTL=57

Reply from 216.109.117.110: bytes=32 time=250ms TTL=57

Reply from 216.109.117.110: bytes=32 time=250ms TTL=57

Reply from 216.109.117.110: bytes=32 time=359ms TTL=57



Ping statistics for 216.109.117.110:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 250ms, Maximum = 359ms, Average = 280ms


Target 66.94.230.32

"DELL-001 ping 66.94.230.32"



Pinging 66.94.230.32 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=223ms TTL=57

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=234ms TTL=57

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=328ms TTL=57

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=515ms TTL=57



Ping statistics for 66.94.230.32:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 223ms, Maximum = 515ms, Average = 325ms


End diagnosis for DELL-001

Thanks,
Dave

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...

<major snip>

>
> Un-share and re-share the folder on XP Pro and see if that solves the
> problem. If it doesn't, keep reading.
>
> Is simple file sharing enabled or disabled on XP Pro? To see, open My
> Computer, click Tools | Folder Options | View, and scroll to the end
> of the list.
>
> If simple file sharing is enabled, the steps that I gave should solve
> the problem.
>
> If simple file sharing is disabled, network access to XP Pro works
> just like network access to W2K Pro, with the exception that, by
> default, XP Pro requires passwords on user accounts for network
> access. Create a user account on XP with the same user name and
> password that you use to log onto W98.
>
> If those steps don't solve the problem, there are a couple of more
> obscure things to check, depending on whether simple file sharing is
> enabled or disabled.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com



 
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Chuck
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      22nd Jul 2005
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:51:20 -0600, "Dave Dawson" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
><major snip>
>
>>
>> Un-share and re-share the folder on XP Pro and see if that solves the
>> problem. If it doesn't, keep reading.
>>
>> Is simple file sharing enabled or disabled on XP Pro? To see, open My
>> Computer, click Tools | Folder Options | View, and scroll to the end
>> of the list.
>>
>> If simple file sharing is enabled, the steps that I gave should solve
>> the problem.
>>
>> If simple file sharing is disabled, network access to XP Pro works
>> just like network access to W2K Pro, with the exception that, by
>> default, XP Pro requires passwords on user accounts for network
>> access. Create a user account on XP with the same user name and
>> password that you use to log onto W98.
>>
>> If those steps don't solve the problem, there are a couple of more
>> obscure things to check, depending on whether simple file sharing is
>> enabled or disabled.



>Simple file sharing is enabled. I had the client un-share and re-share the
>folder, and that didn't help.
>
>When I did net view \\DELL-001 on the W98 it tells me that access is denied,
>but in the sharing dialog box, the message at the bottom says the folder is
>available through the firewall.
>
>Here is a CDiag read-out I took earlier this morning:


<SNIP>

>Thanks,
>Dave


Dave,

I don't think Steve supports use of CDiag - that's my own little hack^H^H^H^H
utility.

Looking at its output (only from DELL-001, as its scripting only works on
Windows NT and up), I see a couple concerns.
# DELL-001 can't ping itself or TCE-002, by ip address even (or did you munge
the CDiag log?).
"DELL-001 ping 192.168.0.1"
192.168.0.1
"DELL-001 ping 192.168.0.3"
192.168.0.3
# DELL-001 can't "net view" TCE-002, by ip address or by name.
"DELL-001 net view TCE-002"
"DELL-001 net view 192.168.0.3"

You need to look for a misconfigured or overlooked firewall.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
Possibly at LSP / Winsock problems.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html>
And possibly check registry setting restrictanonymous.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>

Steve may suggest other possibilities.

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Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
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Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
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Steve Winograd [MVP]
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      22nd Jul 2005
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Dave Dawson"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Simple file sharing is enabled. I had the client un-share and re-share the
>folder, and that didn't help.
>
>When I did net view \\DELL-001 on the W98 it tells me that access is denied,
>but in the sharing dialog box, the message at the bottom says the folder is
>available through the firewall.
>
>Here is a CDiag read-out I took earlier this morning: [snip]


I'm sorry, but I don't know what CDiag is or how to interpret its
output.

>Thanks,
>Dave


Try this on the XP machine:

1. Run the registry editor.

2. Open this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa

3. Look for a value called "RestrictAnonymous", of type DWORD. If it
doesn't exist, create it.

4. Set the value to 0.

5. Close Regedit.

6. Reboot.

Then try accessing it from W98 again.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Dave Dawson
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      25th Jul 2005
It did have two RestrictAnonymous, and they were set to 1. I had the client
delete one of them and set the other to 0 and reboot. W98 still sees the
same thing...a password request for IPC$.

Dave

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...

<snip>

> Try this on the XP machine:
>
> 1. Run the registry editor.
>
> 2. Open this key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
>
> 3. Look for a value called "RestrictAnonymous", of type DWORD. If it
> doesn't exist, create it.
>
> 4. Set the value to 0.
>
> 5. Close Regedit.
>
> 6. Reboot.
>
> Then try accessing it from W98 again.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)



 
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Dave Dawson
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      30th Jul 2005
Yesterday I set Simple File Sharing off, set up both computers with a common
logon and password, made sure they were on the same workgroup, and that I
could ping the XP Pro from the W98. W98 still sees nothing but a request
from XP Pro but a password request for IPC$. If I do net view \\DELL-001
from W98 I get an error telling me the file is locked, etc.

What now????

Dave

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Dave Dawson"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>Simple file sharing is enabled. I had the client un-share and re-share
>>the
>>folder, and that didn't help.
>>
>>When I did net view \\DELL-001 on the W98 it tells me that access is
>>denied,
>>but in the sharing dialog box, the message at the bottom says the folder
>>is
>>available through the firewall.
>>
>>Here is a CDiag read-out I took earlier this morning: [snip]

>
> I'm sorry, but I don't know what CDiag is or how to interpret its
> output.
>
>>Thanks,
>>Dave

>
> Try this on the XP machine:
>
> 1. Run the registry editor.
>
> 2. Open this key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
>
> 3. Look for a value called "RestrictAnonymous", of type DWORD. If it
> doesn't exist, create it.
>
> 4. Set the value to 0.
>
> 5. Close Regedit.
>
> 6. Reboot.
>
> Then try accessing it from W98 again.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com



 
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