My CD and DVD drives suddenly disappeared. The only recent changes to my
system were the recent XP security update and connecting a Blackberry via
USB cable before I installed the software. It was the attempt to install the
software that revealed the missing drives.

They are still listed in the device manager with yellow ! next to them. I
removed them and rebooted and they were reloaded with the same ! next to
them.

You can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive:
or you get an error code 31
See: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314060

CD-R drive or CD-RW drive is not recognized as a recordable device
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316529

XP does not recognize a DVD-RW disc
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818733/en-us

Also:
Right click on the My Computer Icon on your desktop
and select Manage and select: Device Manager
(Or: Go to Start, then select 'Run' and in the Open field enter: devmgmt.msc
then click on the OK button)

After the Device Manager window opens, click the "+" to expand the
DVD/CD-Rom drives option.
Next, right-click on the CD/DVD Drive(s) you are having problems with
and select: Uninstall.
You may be prompted to reboot your computer, do not reboot!
Instead shutdown the PC and remove the cable to the CD/DVD
drive or drives. Now with the drives disconnected, boot the PC.
Check that the CD/DVD devices are no longer listed in
Device Manager. Now power down the PC, reconnect your
CD/DVD drivers. Windows should discover the devices and
reinstall the drivers.

JS
http://www.pagestart.com


"Secret Squirrel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:OarlY5$(E-Mail Removed)...
> My CD and DVD drives suddenly disappeared. The only recent changes to my
> system were the recent XP security update and connecting a Blackberry via
> USB cable before I installed the software. It was the attempt to install
> the software that revealed the missing drives.
>
> They are still listed in the device manager with yellow ! next to them. I
> removed them and rebooted and they were reloaded with the same ! next to
> them.
>

Or he could just consider uninstalling that security update, rebooting, and
then using System Restore to restore to the previous restore point before
installing that update.

JS wrote:
> You can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive:
> or you get an error code 31
> See: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314060
>
> CD-R drive or CD-RW drive is not recognized as a recordable device
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316529
>
> XP does not recognize a DVD-RW disc
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818733/en-us
>
> Also:
> Right click on the My Computer Icon on your desktop
> and select Manage and select: Device Manager
> (Or: Go to Start, then select 'Run' and in the Open field enter:
> devmgmt.msc
> then click on the OK button)
>
> After the Device Manager window opens, click the "+" to expand the
> DVD/CD-Rom drives option.
> Next, right-click on the CD/DVD Drive(s) you are having problems with
> and select: Uninstall.
> You may be prompted to reboot your computer, do not reboot!
> Instead shutdown the PC and remove the cable to the CD/DVD
> drive or drives. Now with the drives disconnected, boot the PC.
> Check that the CD/DVD devices are no longer listed in
> Device Manager. Now power down the PC, reconnect your
> CD/DVD drivers. Windows should discover the devices and
> reinstall the drivers.
>
> JS
> http://www.pagestart.com
>
>
> "Secret Squirrel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:OarlY5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> My CD and DVD drives suddenly disappeared. The only recent changes to my
>> system were the recent XP security update and connecting a Blackberry via
>> USB cable before I installed the software. It was the attempt to install
>> the software that revealed the missing drives.
>>
>> They are still listed in the device manager with yellow ! next to them. I
>> removed them and rebooted and they were reloaded with the same ! next to
>> them.

Bill

You are kidding of course. Why on earth would somebody do that. All that you described will NOT delete his Upper and Lower filters which are now showing up in the registry.

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Or he could just consider uninstalling that security update, rebooting, and
> then using System Restore to restore to the previous restore point before
> installing that update.
>
> JS wrote:
>> You can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive:
>> or you get an error code 31
>> See: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314060
>>
>> CD-R drive or CD-RW drive is not recognized as a recordable device
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316529
>>
>> XP does not recognize a DVD-RW disc
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818733/en-us
>>
>> Also:
>> Right click on the My Computer Icon on your desktop
>> and select Manage and select: Device Manager
>> (Or: Go to Start, then select 'Run' and in the Open field enter:
>> devmgmt.msc
>> then click on the OK button)
>>
>> After the Device Manager window opens, click the "+" to expand the
>> DVD/CD-Rom drives option.
>> Next, right-click on the CD/DVD Drive(s) you are having problems with
>> and select: Uninstall.
>> You may be prompted to reboot your computer, do not reboot!
>> Instead shutdown the PC and remove the cable to the CD/DVD
>> drive or drives. Now with the drives disconnected, boot the PC.
>> Check that the CD/DVD devices are no longer listed in
>> Device Manager. Now power down the PC, reconnect your
>> CD/DVD drivers. Windows should discover the devices and
>> reinstall the drivers.
>>
>> JS
>> http://www.pagestart.com
>>
>>
>> "Secret Squirrel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:OarlY5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> My CD and DVD drives suddenly disappeared. The only recent changes to my
>>> system were the recent XP security update and connecting a Blackberry via
>>> USB cable before I installed the software. It was the attempt to install
>>> the software that revealed the missing drives.
>>>
>>> They are still listed in the device manager with yellow ! next to them. I
>>> removed them and rebooted and they were reloaded with the same ! next to
>>> them.
>
>

Peter Foldes wrote:
> Bill
>
> You are kidding of course. Why on earth would somebody do that.

Uninstall a security update? What's the big deal. (nevermind, let's not
argue over that one; "East is East and West is West, and ne'er the twain
shall meet" - Mark Twain).

> All that you
> described will NOT delete his Upper and Lower filters which are now
> showing
> up in the registry.

What "Upper and Lower Filters"?? Unless I misread this, he installed a MS
"security update", and things went to hell. So a simple solution is to
uninstall the update and roll back to a previous System Restore point.
(Admitedly, if you have an issue with losing the security update, that's
your own perspective, but it sure isn't mine. I don't take those in (I'm
on dialup, and I also learned my lessons long ago on a few occasions in
doing that, but that's another story).

And if he rolls back to a previous restore point, the newly added registry
references you are referring to should be non-existent.

Unless I've missed something. If so, please tell me where.
Bill

> --
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> "Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Or he could just consider uninstalling that security update, rebooting,
>> and
>> then using System Restore to restore to the previous restore point before
>> installing that update.
>>
>> JS wrote:
>>> You can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive:
>>> or you get an error code 31
>>> See: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314060
>>>
>>> CD-R drive or CD-RW drive is not recognized as a recordable device
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316529
>>>
>>> XP does not recognize a DVD-RW disc
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818733/en-us
>>>
>>> Also:
>>> Right click on the My Computer Icon on your desktop
>>> and select Manage and select: Device Manager
>>> (Or: Go to Start, then select 'Run' and in the Open field enter:
>>> devmgmt.msc then click on the OK button)
>>>
>>> After the Device Manager window opens, click the "+" to expand the
>>> DVD/CD-Rom drives option.
>>> Next, right-click on the CD/DVD Drive(s) you are having problems with
>>> and select: Uninstall.
>>> You may be prompted to reboot your computer, do not reboot!
>>> Instead shutdown the PC and remove the cable to the CD/DVD
>>> drive or drives. Now with the drives disconnected, boot the PC.
>>> Check that the CD/DVD devices are no longer listed in
>>> Device Manager. Now power down the PC, reconnect your
>>> CD/DVD drivers. Windows should discover the devices and
>>> reinstall the drivers.
>>>
>>> JS
>>> http://www.pagestart.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "Secret Squirrel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:OarlY5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> My CD and DVD drives suddenly disappeared. The only recent changes to
>>>> my
>>>> system were the recent XP security update and connecting a Blackberry
>>>> via
>>>> USB cable before I installed the software. It was the attempt to
>>>> install
>>>> the software that revealed the missing drives.
>>>>
>>>> They are still listed in the device manager with yellow ! next to them.
>>>> I
>>>> removed them and rebooted and they were reloaded with the same ! next
>>>> to
>>>> them.

Getting rid of the "Upper" and "Lower" Filters is the easiest way to get
your drives back. I did it a month ago. Took all of 5 minutes!

Bill in Co. wrote:
> Peter Foldes wrote:
>> Bill
>>
>> You are kidding of course. Why on earth would somebody do that.
>
> Uninstall a security update? What's the big deal. (nevermind, let's not
> argue over that one; "East is East and West is West, and ne'er the twain
> shall meet" - Mark Twain).
>
>> All that you
>> described will NOT delete his Upper and Lower filters which are now
>> showing
>> up in the registry.
>
> What "Upper and Lower Filters"?? Unless I misread this, he installed a MS
> "security update", and things went to hell. So a simple solution is to
> uninstall the update and roll back to a previous System Restore point.
> (Admitedly, if you have an issue with losing the security update, that's
> your own perspective, but it sure isn't mine. I don't take those in (I'm
> on dialup, and I also learned my lessons long ago on a few occasions in
> doing that, but that's another story).
>
> And if he rolls back to a previous restore point, the newly added registry
> references you are referring to should be non-existent.
>
> Unless I've missed something. If so, please tell me where.
> Bill
>
>> --
>> Peter
>>
>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>
>> "Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Or he could just consider uninstalling that security update, rebooting,
>>> and
>>> then using System Restore to restore to the previous restore point before
>>> installing that update.
>>>
>>> JS wrote:
>>>> You can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive:
>>>> or you get an error code 31
>>>> See: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314060
>>>>
>>>> CD-R drive or CD-RW drive is not recognized as a recordable device
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316529
>>>>
>>>> XP does not recognize a DVD-RW disc
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818733/en-us
>>>>
>>>> Also:
>>>> Right click on the My Computer Icon on your desktop
>>>> and select Manage and select: Device Manager
>>>> (Or: Go to Start, then select 'Run' and in the Open field enter:
>>>> devmgmt.msc then click on the OK button)
>>>>
>>>> After the Device Manager window opens, click the "+" to expand the
>>>> DVD/CD-Rom drives option.
>>>> Next, right-click on the CD/DVD Drive(s) you are having problems with
>>>> and select: Uninstall.
>>>> You may be prompted to reboot your computer, do not reboot!
>>>> Instead shutdown the PC and remove the cable to the CD/DVD
>>>> drive or drives. Now with the drives disconnected, boot the PC.
>>>> Check that the CD/DVD devices are no longer listed in
>>>> Device Manager. Now power down the PC, reconnect your
>>>> CD/DVD drivers. Windows should discover the devices and
>>>> reinstall the drivers.
>>>>
>>>> JS
>>>> http://www.pagestart.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Secret Squirrel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:OarlY5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> My CD and DVD drives suddenly disappeared. The only recent changes to
>>>>> my
>>>>> system were the recent XP security update and connecting a Blackberry
>>>>> via
>>>>> USB cable before I installed the software. It was the attempt to
>>>>> install
>>>>> the software that revealed the missing drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are still listed in the device manager with yellow ! next to them.
>>>>> I
>>>>> removed them and rebooted and they were reloaded with the same ! next
>>>>> to
>>>>> them.
>
>

I went to the Microsoft website after I posted this and followed their
instructions of removing the upper and lower registry entries (your first
link). All is good now. Thanks for your reply.


"JS" <@> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive:
> or you get an error code 31
> See: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314060
>
> CD-R drive or CD-RW drive is not recognized as a recordable device
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316529
>
> XP does not recognize a DVD-RW disc
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818733/en-us
>
> Also:
> Right click on the My Computer Icon on your desktop
> and select Manage and select: Device Manager
> (Or: Go to Start, then select 'Run' and in the Open field enter:
> devmgmt.msc
> then click on the OK button)
>
> After the Device Manager window opens, click the "+" to expand the
> DVD/CD-Rom drives option.
> Next, right-click on the CD/DVD Drive(s) you are having problems with
> and select: Uninstall.
> You may be prompted to reboot your computer, do not reboot!
> Instead shutdown the PC and remove the cable to the CD/DVD
> drive or drives. Now with the drives disconnected, boot the PC.
> Check that the CD/DVD devices are no longer listed in
> Device Manager. Now power down the PC, reconnect your
> CD/DVD drivers. Windows should discover the devices and
> reinstall the drivers.
>
> JS
> http://www.pagestart.com
>
>
> "Secret Squirrel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:OarlY5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> My CD and DVD drives suddenly disappeared. The only recent changes to my
>> system were the recent XP security update and connecting a Blackberry via
>> USB cable before I installed the software. It was the attempt to install
>> the software that revealed the missing drives.
>>
>> They are still listed in the device manager with yellow ! next to them. I
>> removed them and rebooted and they were reloaded with the same ! next to
>> them.
>>
>
>

You're welcome.

JS
http://www.pagestart.com


"Secret Squirrel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:e$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I went to the Microsoft website after I posted this and followed their
>instructions of removing the upper and lower registry entries (your first
>link). All is good now. Thanks for your reply.
>
>
> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> You can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive:
>> or you get an error code 31
>> See: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314060
>>
>> CD-R drive or CD-RW drive is not recognized as a recordable device
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316529
>>
>> XP does not recognize a DVD-RW disc
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818733/en-us
>>
>> Also:
>> Right click on the My Computer Icon on your desktop
>> and select Manage and select: Device Manager
>> (Or: Go to Start, then select 'Run' and in the Open field enter:
>> devmgmt.msc
>> then click on the OK button)
>>
>> After the Device Manager window opens, click the "+" to expand the
>> DVD/CD-Rom drives option.
>> Next, right-click on the CD/DVD Drive(s) you are having problems with
>> and select: Uninstall.
>> You may be prompted to reboot your computer, do not reboot!
>> Instead shutdown the PC and remove the cable to the CD/DVD
>> drive or drives. Now with the drives disconnected, boot the PC.
>> Check that the CD/DVD devices are no longer listed in
>> Device Manager. Now power down the PC, reconnect your
>> CD/DVD drivers. Windows should discover the devices and
>> reinstall the drivers.
>>
>> JS
>> http://www.pagestart.com
>>
>>
>> "Secret Squirrel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:OarlY5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> My CD and DVD drives suddenly disappeared. The only recent changes to my
>>> system were the recent XP security update and connecting a Blackberry
>>> via USB cable before I installed the software. It was the attempt to
>>> install the software that revealed the missing drives.
>>>
>>> They are still listed in the device manager with yellow ! next to them.
>>> I removed them and rebooted and they were reloaded with the same ! next
>>> to them.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

I still don't know what these "upper" and "lower" filters are that you are
talking about.

Theslaz wrote:
> Getting rid of the "Upper" and "Lower" Filters is the easiest way to get
> your drives back. I did it a month ago. Took all of 5 minutes!
>
> Bill in Co. wrote:
>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> You are kidding of course. Why on earth would somebody do that.
>>
>> Uninstall a security update? What's the big deal. (Nevermind, let's
>> not
>> argue over that one; "East is East and West is West, and ne'er the twain
>> shall meet" - Mark Twain).
>>
>>> All that you
>>> described will NOT delete his Upper and Lower filters which are now
>>> showing up in the registry.
>>
>> What "Upper and Lower Filters"?? Unless I misread this, he installed a
>> MS
>> "security update", and things went to hell. So a simple solution is to
>> uninstall the update and roll back to a previous System Restore point.
>> (Admitedly, if you have an issue with losing the security update, that's
>> your own perspective, but it sure isn't mine. I don't take those in
>> (I'm
>> on dialup, and I also learned my lessons long ago on a few occasions in
>> doing that, but that's another story).
>>
>> And if he rolls back to a previous restore point, the newly added
>> registry
>> references you are referring to should be non-existent.
>>
>> Unless I've missed something. If so, please tell me where.
>> Bill
>>
>>> --
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Or he could just consider uninstalling that security update, rebooting,
>>>> and
>>>> then using System Restore to restore to the previous restore point
>>>> before
>>>> installing that update.
>>>>
>>>> JS wrote:
>>>>> You can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive:
>>>>> or you get an error code 31
>>>>> See: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314060
>>>>>
>>>>> CD-R drive or CD-RW drive is not recognized as a recordable device
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316529
>>>>>
>>>>> XP does not recognize a DVD-RW disc
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818733/en-us
>>>>>
>>>>> Also:
>>>>> Right click on the My Computer Icon on your desktop
>>>>> and select Manage and select: Device Manager
>>>>> (Or: Go to Start, then select 'Run' and in the Open field enter:
>>>>> devmgmt.msc then click on the OK button)
>>>>>
>>>>> After the Device Manager window opens, click the "+" to expand the
>>>>> DVD/CD-Rom drives option.
>>>>> Next, right-click on the CD/DVD Drive(s) you are having problems with
>>>>> and select: Uninstall.
>>>>> You may be prompted to reboot your computer, do not reboot!
>>>>> Instead shutdown the PC and remove the cable to the CD/DVD
>>>>> drive or drives. Now with the drives disconnected, boot the PC.
>>>>> Check that the CD/DVD devices are no longer listed in
>>>>> Device Manager. Now power down the PC, reconnect your
>>>>> CD/DVD drivers. Windows should discover the devices and
>>>>> reinstall the drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>> JS
>>>>> http://www.pagestart.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Secret Squirrel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:OarlY5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> My CD and DVD drives suddenly disappeared. The only recent changes
>>>>>> >>>>>> to my
>>>>>> system were the recent XP security update and connecting a Blackberry
>>>>>> via USB cable before I installed the software. It was the attempt to
>>>>>> install the software that revealed the missing drives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are still listed in the device manager with yellow ! next to
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> removed them and rebooted and they were reloaded with the same !
>>>>>> >>>>>> next to them.

The UpperFilters & LowerFilters are in the registry, read the articles
that JS provided in his post.

John

Bill in Co. wrote:

> I still don't know what these "upper" and "lower" filters are that you are
> talking about.
>
> Theslaz wrote:
>
>>Getting rid of the "Upper" and "Lower" Filters is the easiest way to get
>>your drives back. I did it a month ago. Took all of 5 minutes!
>>
>>Bill in Co. wrote:
>>
>>>Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>You are kidding of course. Why on earth would somebody do that.
>>>
>>>Uninstall a security update? What's the big deal. (Nevermind, let's
>>>not
>>>argue over that one; "East is East and West is West, and ne'er the twain
>>>shall meet" - Mark Twain).
>>>
>>>
>>>>All that you
>>>>described will NOT delete his Upper and Lower filters which are now
>>>>showing up in the registry.
>>>
>>>What "Upper and Lower Filters"?? Unless I misread this, he installed a
>>>MS
>>>"security update", and things went to hell. So a simple solution is to
>>>uninstall the update and roll back to a previous System Restore point.
>>>(Admitedly, if you have an issue with losing the security update, that's
>>>your own perspective, but it sure isn't mine. I don't take those in
>>>(I'm
>>>on dialup, and I also learned my lessons long ago on a few occasions in
>>>doing that, but that's another story).
>>>
>>>And if he rolls back to a previous restore point, the newly added
>>>registry
>>>references you are referring to should be non-existent.
>>>
>>>Unless I've missed something. If so, please tell me where.
>>>Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Peter
>>>>
>>>>Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>>>Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>>>
>>>>"Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>
>>>>>Or he could just consider uninstalling that security update, rebooting,
>>>>>and
>>>>>then using System Restore to restore to the previous restore point
>>>>>before
>>>>>installing that update.
>>>>>
>>>>>JS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>You can no longer access the CD drive or the DVD drive:
>>>>>>or you get an error code 31
>>>>>>See: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;314060
>>>>>>
>>>>>>CD-R drive or CD-RW drive is not recognized as a recordable device
>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316529
>>>>>>
>>>>>>XP does not recognize a DVD-RW disc
>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818733/en-us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also:
>>>>>>Right click on the My Computer Icon on your desktop
>>>>>>and select Manage and select: Device Manager
>>>>>>(Or: Go to Start, then select 'Run' and in the Open field enter:
>>>>>>devmgmt.msc then click on the OK button)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>After the Device Manager window opens, click the "+" to expand the
>>>>>>DVD/CD-Rom drives option.
>>>>>>Next, right-click on the CD/DVD Drive(s) you are having problems with
>>>>>>and select: Uninstall.
>>>>>>You may be prompted to reboot your computer, do not reboot!
>>>>>>Instead shutdown the PC and remove the cable to the CD/DVD
>>>>>>drive or drives. Now with the drives disconnected, boot the PC.
>>>>>>Check that the CD/DVD devices are no longer listed in
>>>>>>Device Manager. Now power down the PC, reconnect your
>>>>>>CD/DVD drivers. Windows should discover the devices and
>>>>>>reinstall the drivers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JS
>>>>>>http://www.pagestart.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Secret Squirrel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>>>>>message
>>>>>>news:OarlY5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My CD and DVD drives suddenly disappeared. The only recent changes
>>>>>>> >>>>>> to my
>>>>>>>system were the recent XP security update and connecting a Blackberry
>>>>>>>via USB cable before I installed the software. It was the attempt to
>>>>>>>install the software that revealed the missing drives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They are still listed in the device manager with yellow ! next to
>>>>>>>them.
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>removed them and rebooted and they were reloaded with the same !
>>>>>>> >>>>>> next to them.
>
>
>