I have transferred my film into Movie Maker using the DV-AVI setting.
Although the file size is very big, the quality when viewing the film on my
PC is superb.
However, the film has imported as just one clip, as opposed to breaking down
into a large number of clips as is the case with other formats.
This makes editing the movie very unwieldy - I can drag the clip down to the
timeline but it is one hour long (the length of the film). Every bit of
editing then involves dragging the whole one hour's length clip into the
timeline.
Is this normal and is there any way of getting around it?

Also - if I do find a way of editing the DV-AVI version in a simpler way,
and then burn it on to a DVD, will it play via my DVD player (an X-box) on my
television?

Getting the film on to my PC used about 180MB of space for each minute. And
the film is 60 minutes long. I would probably edit it to half that size. At
half the size, will the edited version fit on to a 4.7GB DVD?

Would a better option be to bring the film on to my PC using the High
Quality Video (PAL) setting in Other Devices? This seems to bring the film on
to my PC in a large number of clips, although the quality does not seem quite
as good as the DV-AVI version.

Any help would be much appreciated.
--
Seb

Delete the clip from your collections and import it again but this time make
sure there is a check mark in the box next to "Create clips for video files"
otherwise you can manually create clips where ever you want using the "Split
Clip" function.
Play the video from your collections (not from the timeline) and pause when
you get to a spot where you want to "clip" it. Then click the "split" button
(second from the right at the bottom of the preview window) or hit CTRL+L
to split it.
As far as creating a DVD goes you need additional software to import the
DV-AVI file into. There is a list of DVD Authoring programs on my website
"DVD Creation" section.
Don't worry about the filesize when talking about creating a DVD since the
authoring program will convert and compress it anyway. The best rule of
thumb is for a "FULL QUALITY" video 1 hour per DVD is best.
-Wojo
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"Seb" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:93627E16-63FF-4937-8F28-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have transferred my film into Movie Maker using the DV-AVI setting.
> Although the file size is very big, the quality when viewing the film on
> my
> PC is superb.
> However, the film has imported as just one clip, as opposed to breaking
> down
> into a large number of clips as is the case with other formats.
> This makes editing the movie very unwieldy - I can drag the clip down to
> the
> timeline but it is one hour long (the length of the film). Every bit of
> editing then involves dragging the whole one hour's length clip into the
> timeline.
> Is this normal and is there any way of getting around it?
>
> Also - if I do find a way of editing the DV-AVI version in a simpler way,
> and then burn it on to a DVD, will it play via my DVD player (an X-box) on
> my
> television?
>
> Getting the film on to my PC used about 180MB of space for each minute.
> And
> the film is 60 minutes long. I would probably edit it to half that size.
> At
> half the size, will the edited version fit on to a 4.7GB DVD?
>
> Would a better option be to bring the film on to my PC using the High
> Quality Video (PAL) setting in Other Devices? This seems to bring the film
> on
> to my PC in a large number of clips, although the quality does not seem
> quite
> as good as the DV-AVI version.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> --
> Seb

Great replies on this forum and I'm still drilling the links on this
section's posts I found when searching for "Create clips for video files
check box".

Wish I could have answered any of your questions and I apolgize if mucking
up the string here, but about your xfrg films using DV-AVI, I vaguely recall
seeing something about that feature (DV-AVI).

I'm uncertain if that's related to MSWMM or MF4 and I'm not finding either
app's help features mentioning "DV-AVI", so I'm left to assuming the
feature's option is seen in one of the two app's final stages (either saving
as a movie or burn), but I haven't yet re-discovered it.

I'd appreciate learning more about DV-AVI. Of note, I'm running MSWMM v5.1
and MF4SE.

--
My best to all and happ-e-trails,

Steven


"Seb" wrote:

> I have transferred my film into Movie Maker using the DV-AVI setting.
> Although the file size is very big, the quality when viewing the film on my
> PC is superb.
> However, the film has imported as just one clip, as opposed to breaking down
> into a large number of clips as is the case with other formats.
> This makes editing the movie very unwieldy - I can drag the clip down to the
> timeline but it is one hour long (the length of the film). Every bit of
> editing then involves dragging the whole one hour's length clip into the
> timeline.
> Is this normal and is there any way of getting around it?
>
> Also - if I do find a way of editing the DV-AVI version in a simpler way,
> and then burn it on to a DVD, will it play via my DVD player (an X-box) on my
> television?
>
> Getting the film on to my PC used about 180MB of space for each minute. And
> the film is 60 minutes long. I would probably edit it to half that size. At
> half the size, will the edited version fit on to a 4.7GB DVD?
>
> Would a better option be to bring the film on to my PC using the High
> Quality Video (PAL) setting in Other Devices? This seems to bring the film on
> to my PC in a large number of clips, although the quality does not seem quite
> as good as the DV-AVI version.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> --
> Seb

Steven wrote:
> Great replies on this forum and I'm still drilling the links on this
> section's posts I found when searching for "Create clips for video
> files check box".
>
> Wish I could have answered any of your questions and I apolgize if
> mucking up the string here, but about your xfrg films using DV-AVI, I
> vaguely recall seeing something about that feature (DV-AVI).
>
> I'm uncertain if that's related to MSWMM or MF4 and I'm not finding
> either app's help features mentioning "DV-AVI", so I'm left to
> assuming the feature's option is seen in one of the two app's final
> stages (either saving as a movie or burn), but I haven't yet
> re-discovered it.
>
> I'd appreciate learning more about DV-AVI. Of note, I'm running
> MSWMM v5.1 and MF4SE.
================================
Just a couple of tips...

MSWMM...is your project file format...it
does not include the source files and is
only useful for re-editing in Movie Maker.

Version 5.1 is your Windows XP version...
Movie Maker is Version 2.1.

Here are the steps top save as .wmv and
DV-AVI:

To save as a .wmv movie file...
Type...Ctrl+P to open the Save Movie Wizard /
Choose...My Computer /
Next /
Enter a Name and a Save Location /
Next / Next.
Wait while the movie is saved /
Finish...

To save as an .avi movie file...
(and several other options)
Type...Ctrl+P to open the Save Movie Wizard /
Choose...My Computer /
Next /
Enter a Name and a Save Location /
Next /
Show More Choices /
Other Settings /
Open the drop window and choose...DV-AVI /
Next /
Wait while the movie is saved /
Finish...

Movie Maker 2 - Saving
Movies - Custom WMV Profiles
http://tinyurl.com/s2vgu

Creating Custom Profiles
for Windows Movie Maker 2
http://tinyurl.com/cuny7

--
John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

Okay, finally found MSWMM's reference to DV-AVI.

This leads me to asking (again if not so much string mangling) what I'm most
interested in.

Since I mostly use a Panasonic D-Snap SV-AV100 (it's videos optionally are
mpeg2 or 4) and I simply download the raw files off the SD card
(MOL's/mpeg4's which WMP indicate it's using a ISO MPEG-4 codec and
MOV's/mpeg2's which WMP indicates using Ligos MPEG decoder), as such, still a
bit of a novice with all this, does anyone know if one or the other format's
use is better suited for importing into MSWMM and subsequent use in MF4SE?

--
My best to all and happ-e-trails,

Steven


"Steven" wrote:

> Great replies on this forum and I'm still drilling the links on this
> section's posts I found when searching for "Create clips for video files
> check box".
>
> Wish I could have answered any of your questions and I apolgize if mucking
> up the string here, but about your xfrg films using DV-AVI, I vaguely recall
> seeing something about that feature (DV-AVI).
>
> I'm uncertain if that's related to MSWMM or MF4 and I'm not finding either
> app's help features mentioning "DV-AVI", so I'm left to assuming the
> feature's option is seen in one of the two app's final stages (either saving
> as a movie or burn), but I haven't yet re-discovered it.
>
> I'd appreciate learning more about DV-AVI. Of note, I'm running MSWMM v5.1
> and MF4SE.
>
> --
> My best to all and happ-e-trails,
>
> Steven
>
>
> "Seb" wrote:
>
> > I have transferred my film into Movie Maker using the DV-AVI setting.
> > Although the file size is very big, the quality when viewing the film on my
> > PC is superb.
> > However, the film has imported as just one clip, as opposed to breaking down
> > into a large number of clips as is the case with other formats.
> > This makes editing the movie very unwieldy - I can drag the clip down to the
> > timeline but it is one hour long (the length of the film). Every bit of
> > editing then involves dragging the whole one hour's length clip into the
> > timeline.
> > Is this normal and is there any way of getting around it?
> >
> > Also - if I do find a way of editing the DV-AVI version in a simpler way,
> > and then burn it on to a DVD, will it play via my DVD player (an X-box) on my
> > television?
> >
> > Getting the film on to my PC used about 180MB of space for each minute. And
> > the film is 60 minutes long. I would probably edit it to half that size. At
> > half the size, will the edited version fit on to a 4.7GB DVD?
> >
> > Would a better option be to bring the film on to my PC using the High
> > Quality Video (PAL) setting in Other Devices? This seems to bring the film on
> > to my PC in a large number of clips, although the quality does not seem quite
> > as good as the DV-AVI version.
> >
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > --
> > Seb

Steven wrote:
> Okay, finally found MSWMM's reference to DV-AVI.
>
> This leads me to asking (again if not so much string mangling) what
> I'm most interested in.
>
> Since I mostly use a Panasonic D-Snap SV-AV100 (it's videos
> optionally are mpeg2 or 4) and I simply download the raw files off
> the SD card (MOL's/mpeg4's which WMP indicate it's using a ISO MPEG-4
> codec and MOV's/mpeg2's which WMP indicates using Ligos MPEG
> decoder), as such, still a bit of a novice with all this, does anyone
> know if one or the other format's use is better suited for importing
> into MSWMM and subsequent use in MF4SE?
================================
Maybe these articles will offer some ideas:

Movie Maker 2 - Importing MPEG Files
http://www.papajohn.org/MM2-Importing-Video-MPEG2.html

File type compatibility with Movie Maker
http://tinyurl.com/v8tee

--
John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

I think I finally figured out the easiest and best way to save my Panasonic
D-Snap's videos (SD card folder's MOL's/mpeg4's and MOV's/mpeg2's).

Where and if needed, I use SUPER to convert to WMV by telling SUPER to use
wmv>MS-mpeg-v2 (and do not tick Direct Show).

Resulting files are oddly upper case WMV and sometimes MSWMM fails at
converting the xxx.AVI.WMV file, but when it succeeds, the file ends up with
a (lower case) wmv file extension.

The file size is reduced. plus I can then edit the vids if needed, that and
they play fine in WMP.

Plus I'm finding some success in using ULead's MovieFactorySE, as it
converts many proble vids.

Thanks for the replies.