I haven't bought built a new computer in a while...so, I pick up 2
motherboards pretty cheap. I know they might be old (by today's
standards), but I'm sure they will be fast enough for me.

One is a Duron/Athlon MB = KT266AD Socket A MB with a Duron 1.8GHZ

the other is a SOYO P4VGA (data bus speeds of 400 and 533 MHz) it
takes P4 up to 3.06 GHZ, I have not bought a CPU for this MB yet.

I'm keeping both system, but I want the faster one to be my game
machine.

So overall which MB has more potential ? I know MHz for MHz AMD cpu's
are faster. I was looking at a 2.6 Ghz P4 (expensive compared to the
Duron).

So what's faster, a 1.8 duron or 2.6 P4 ?

Also, overall, which setup is faster considering the motherboards and
memory speeds ?

I'm guessing the P4 setup will have the edge because of the GHz of the
CPU and the DDR memory (HD will be the same).


Thanks,


Please post reply here

On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:36:14 -0400, steve <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:
>I haven't bought built a new computer in a while...so, I pick up 2
>motherboards pretty cheap. I know they might be old (by today's
>standards), but I'm sure they will be fast enough for me.
>
>One is a Duron/Athlon MB = KT266AD Socket A MB with a Duron 1.8GHZ
>
>the other is a SOYO P4VGA (data bus speeds of 400 and 533 MHz) it
>takes P4 up to 3.06 GHZ, I have not bought a CPU for this MB yet.
>
>I'm keeping both system, but I want the faster one to be my game
>machine.
>
>So overall which MB has more potential ?

Probably the P4 board. The Socket A board can only handle AthlonXP
chips with a 266MT/s bus speed. In theory these are available at up
to the 2800+ level, though those are damn near impossible to find.
Most likely you'll be looking at an AthlonXP 2600+ as the fastest chip
you can find, and even those are getting pretty rare, with only the
2200+ and 2400+ being common (neither are too much faster than the
Duron you've got).

> I know MHz for MHz AMD cpu's
>are faster. I was looking at a 2.6 Ghz P4 (expensive compared to the
>Duron).
>
>So what's faster, a 1.8 duron or 2.6 P4 ?

2.6GHz P4 for sure. Even if you were to upgrade the Socket A board to
an AthlonXP 2600+ the P4 would probably still be a tiny bit faster
(though they would be close).

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>> I know MHz for MHz AMD cpu's
>>are faster. I was looking at a 2.6 Ghz P4 (expensive compared to the
>>Duron).
>>
>>So what's faster, a 1.8 duron or 2.6 P4 ?
>
>2.6GHz P4 for sure. Even if you were to upgrade the Socket A board to
>an AthlonXP 2600+ the P4 would probably still be a tiny bit faster
>(though they would be close).
>

What about the memory bandwidth. I have 1 512 PC2700 in the Duron
machine (run at 266 right ?).

I'm looking for some 2 matching PC2100 for the P4 machine, the P4
motherboard runs on DDR (266 dual channel ?) mode, if I said that
right, is it really that much faster ?



Compare to AMD cpus, P4$ are expensive !



Thanks

steve <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> What about the memory bandwidth. I have 1 512 PC2700 in the Duron
> machine (run at 266 right ?).
>
> I'm looking for some 2 matching PC2100 for the P4 machine, the P4
> motherboard runs on DDR (266 dual channel ?) mode, if I said that
> right, is it really that much faster ?

Typically, the P4's required that extra memory bandwidth just to match AMD's
in terms of overall performance. P4's typically lived for fast memory, while
K7's could live with much slower RAM.

BTW, you mentioned that you have a 1.8Ghz Duron? I didn't think Durons went
up that high. I had thought they stopped producing them after 1.3Ghz
(although they produced some faster Durons only for the Asian and Chinese
market). Are you sure you don't have an Athlon XP?

Yousuf Khan

steve <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote :

> the other is a SOYO P4VGA (data bus speeds of 400 and 533 MHz) it

and this VGA in the name stands for integrated video controller ? they
tend to SLOW whole system significantly.

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Yousuf Khan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> steve <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > What about the memory bandwidth. I have 1 512 PC2700 in the Duron
> > machine (run at 266 right ?).
> >
> > I'm looking for some 2 matching PC2100 for the P4 machine, the P4
> > motherboard runs on DDR (266 dual channel ?) mode, if I said that
> > right, is it really that much faster ?

> Typically, the P4's required that extra memory bandwidth just to match AMD's
> in terms of overall performance. P4's typically lived for fast memory, while
> K7's could live with much slower RAM.

> BTW, you mentioned that you have a 1.8Ghz Duron? I didn't think Durons went
> up that high. I had thought they stopped producing them after 1.3Ghz
> (although they produced some faster Durons only for the Asian and Chinese
> market). Are you sure you don't have an Athlon XP?

You missed the Applebreds, which are around a lot these days. Durons, but
with DD266 ram, and 1.6ghz readily available (with 1.8ghz showing up at a
few vendors, but trickier to find.)

Tigerdirect also has this bizarro board:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...204&CatId=1228

Mercury - 740CFDMx - SiS Socket A microATX Motherboard (...)
(...)and Integrated AMD Duron 2200 Pro Processor

WTF is a "Duron 2200 Pro" ???
WTF Does "Clock Speed: OverClocked 850MHz Operating @ 2200 PRO Speed" mean?

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Fresh from an Iraqi prisoner interrogation (E-Mail Removed) (Nate Edel)
smirked:

>You missed the Applebreds, which are around a lot these days. Durons, but
>with DD266 ram, and 1.6ghz readily available (with 1.8ghz showing up at a
>few vendors, but trickier to find.)

AMD shows no Duron 1800 on their site that I could find.

>Tigerdirect also has this bizarro board:

This wouldn't be the first time they'd 'made up' something that didn't exist.





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On Wed, 12 May 2004 21:01:48 GMT, Never anonymous Bud
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Fresh from an Iraqi prisoner interrogation (E-Mail Removed) (Nate Edel)
>smirked:
>
>>You missed the Applebreds, which are around a lot these days. Durons, but
>>with DD266 ram, and 1.6ghz readily available (with 1.8ghz showing up at a
>>few vendors, but trickier to find.)
>
>AMD shows no Duron 1800 on their site that I could find.
>
>>Tigerdirect also has this bizarro board:
>
>This wouldn't be the first time they'd 'made up' something that didn't exist.
>

Funny, I did get it at Tiger Direct. After adding a motherboard to my
cart, the website showed 3 items and asked if I wanted to add them.
One was the CPU, I did a quick price check (internet search) and could
not find another 1.8, Pricewatch shows the 1.6 for $39 plus shipping,
so I said what the heck and added it.

Sandra shows it as a 1.8 GHz cpu.

Amazingly fast chip for $44 bucks (Tiger Direct's price).

Bitstring <Ojtoc.9309$(E-Mail Removed)>,
from the wonderful person Yousuf Khan
<(E-Mail Removed)> said
<snip>
>BTW, you mentioned that you have a 1.8Ghz Duron? I didn't think Durons went
>up that high. I had thought they stopped producing them after 1.3Ghz
>(although they produced some faster Durons only for the Asian and Chinese
>market).

In the UK I can certainly get Duron 1.6 and 1.8 Ghz, both with 200Mhz
FSB. Prices are £24 and £25 respectively (plus tax) .. not sure what
that is in $$ this week .. about $45, maybe?

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Fresh from an Iraqi prisoner interrogation steve <(E-Mail Removed)>
smirked:

>Funny, I did get it at Tiger Direct.

I meant calling it a 'Duron 2200 Pro', as there is no such thing.

As for using an 850mhz CPU running at 1.8ghz, good luck!





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