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Dual Boot XP Pro and Linux Ubuntu? How Do I Do It?

 
 
Mike
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      8th Nov 2006
Hi, I just loaded XP Pro on a Dell SX270 2.70GHZ, 2GB RAM and 80GB HDD.
I've decided I want to set up the PC for dual boot w/ Ubuntu. I can
partition the HDD
w/ partition Magic or whatever recommendations I get. I don't want to use a
partition by loading
Boot Magic which is included w/ Partition Magic. The HDD is just one
partition now after
installing Ubuntu I want to create another partition for XP data.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Mike




 
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Malke
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      8th Nov 2006
Mike wrote:

> Hi, I just loaded XP Pro on a Dell SX270 2.70GHZ, 2GB RAM and 80GB
> HDD.
> I've decided I want to set up the PC for dual boot w/ Ubuntu. I can
> partition the HDD
> w/ partition Magic or whatever recommendations I get. I don't want to
> use a partition by loading
> Boot Magic which is included w/ Partition Magic. The HDD is just one
> partition now after
> installing Ubuntu I want to create another partition for XP data.


Use Partition Magic and reduce the XP partition. From the space that is
left, create a smallish partition formatted FAT32 for sharing data
between XP and Linux. Install Ubuntu in the last partition. The Linux
bootloader will allow you to boot into either operating system.

Malke
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Mike
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      8th Nov 2006

"Malke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Use Partition Magic and reduce the XP partition. From the space that is
> left, create a smallish partition formatted FAT32 for sharing data
> between XP and Linux. Install Ubuntu in the last partition. The Linux
> bootloader will allow you to boot into either operating system.
>

OK, what is Ubuntu's native format? FAT32? Good point
I forgot to think about that.


 
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CS
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      8th Nov 2006
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:10:59 GMT, "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"Malke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...


>> Use Partition Magic and reduce the XP partition. From the space that is
>> left, create a smallish partition formatted FAT32 for sharing data
>> between XP and Linux. Install Ubuntu in the last partition. The Linux
>> bootloader will allow you to boot into either operating system.


>OK, what is Ubuntu's native format? FAT32? Good point
>I forgot to think about that.


Use either ext3, or ReiserFS. Neither Ubuntu nor any version of Linux
will install to a FAT-32 partition. Malke suggested that you create a
small FAT-32 partition for sharing data. Linux distros can read and
write to FAT-32 but can not be installed to it.
 
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Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov
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      8th Nov 2006
"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hi, I just loaded XP Pro on a Dell SX270 2.70GHZ, 2GB RAM and 80GB HDD.
>I've decided I want to set up the PC for dual boot w/ Ubuntu. I can
>partition the HDD
>w/ partition Magic or whatever recommendations I get. I don't want to use a
>partition by loading
>Boot Magic which is included w/ Partition Magic. The HDD is just one
>partition now after
>installing Ubuntu I want to create another partition for XP data.
>
>Any suggestions?


Don't dual boot, check out VMplayer
http://www.vmware.com/products/player/

OS http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/

I run it that way, with no problems (3Ghz)

No formatting, no boot managers, and very painless.
Plus you can copy from both systems (copy and paste text)

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Malke
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      8th Nov 2006
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Hi, I just loaded XP Pro on a Dell SX270 2.70GHZ, 2GB RAM and 80GB
>>HDD.
>>I've decided I want to set up the PC for dual boot w/ Ubuntu. I can
>>partition the HDD
>>w/ partition Magic or whatever recommendations I get. I don't want to
>>use a partition by loading
>>Boot Magic which is included w/ Partition Magic. The HDD is just one
>>partition now after
>>installing Ubuntu I want to create another partition for XP data.
>>
>>Any suggestions?

>
> Don't dual boot, check out VMplayer
> http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
>
> OS http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/
>
> I run it that way, with no problems (3Ghz)
>
> No formatting, no boot managers, and very painless.
> Plus you can copy from both systems (copy and paste text)
>


Yes, using virtual machines is a great way to have different OS's
available without having to reboot. VM's can be a little tricky with
external peripherals, though.

For the file system, I believe the Ubuntu default is ext3, which is what
I'd use. I also prefer to use Grub (or LILO) for the bootloader so put
it in the mbr.

Another thing the OP can do if he is nervous about doing this is to
image the current drive in its entirety first so he can get back to the
way things were easily.

Mike - If you are just wanting to try Linux out and aren't sure you want
it, I suggest you download the Knoppix live cd (or dvd if you have a
fast Internet connection) and boot with it. It will give you the best
taste of what to expect. The Ubuntu/Kubuntu distros are also live cd's,
but come with almost nothing on them. Ubuntu (or Kubuntu) is the distro
you want to install after looking at Linux with Knoppix; you can
install Knoppix on the hard drive but it wasn't designed for that and
the process is far more complicated and not suggested for a Linux
newbie.

Malke
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      8th Nov 2006
CS wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:10:59 GMT, "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> "Malke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...

>
>>> Use Partition Magic and reduce the XP partition. From the space that is
>>> left, create a smallish partition formatted FAT32 for sharing data
>>> between XP and Linux. Install Ubuntu in the last partition. The Linux
>>> bootloader will allow you to boot into either operating system.

>
>> OK, what is Ubuntu's native format? FAT32? Good point
>> I forgot to think about that.

>
> Use either ext3, or ReiserFS. Neither Ubuntu nor any version of Linux
> will install to a FAT-32 partition. Malke suggested that you create a
> small FAT-32 partition for sharing data. Linux distros can read and
> write to FAT-32 but can not be installed to it.


How do you format it in ext3 or ReiserFS? Won't Ubuntu change the format
when you install it on an NTFS partition?

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C.Joseph Drayton
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      8th Nov 2006
Mike wrote:
> Hi, I just loaded XP Pro on a Dell SX270 2.70GHZ, 2GB RAM and 80GB HDD.
> I've decided I want to set up the PC for dual boot w/ Ubuntu. I can
> partition the HDD
> w/ partition Magic or whatever recommendations I get. I don't want to use a
> partition by loading
> Boot Magic which is included w/ Partition Magic. The HDD is just one
> partition now after
> installing Ubuntu I want to create another partition for XP data.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>

Hi Mike,

I have a HP dv8000z that I just set up as a tri-boot.

What I did was make my DISK:0 the OS drive and use DISK:1 for all of
my data and virtual machines.

I started by creating 2 partitions on DISK:0 I made each partition
1/3 the size of the drive (36GB). I then Installed WinXPpe on the
first partition (DRV:C). Once that was installed, I then installed
WinXPpe64 on the second partition (DRV).

Once I had that all installed, I installed Mandriva 2007 to the
un-allocated space on DISK:0. Just s that you know, Mandriva 2007
recognized everything except for my Broadcomm WLAN card. The install
was automated and pain free. Since I had the disk space available, I
simply had Mandriva install everything on the DVD. I did notice that
KDE has some difficulty with the screen and leaves artifacts from
the mouse on a regular basis. I am using gNome as my GUI with no
difficulty at all.

One thing that you need to make sure of if you want all OSes on
DISK:0 is that you have to pay attention to the installer's
statement as to where it is installing to. For some odd reason,
WinXPpe64 kept wanting to install to the first partition on DISK:1.

Because I am a programmer this machine is a development machine and
I need to test how my applications will run under different OSes.

On DISK:1, I have created 8 partitions 5 of which are just 2GB
partitions that I have installed various 'virtual machines' on. My
preference for VMs, is VMWare player. I do also use the Microsoft
Virtual PC 2004. So now I have FreeDOS, Win95, Win98se, WinME and
Win2000pe in virtual machines.

My dv8000z runs a little slow with 2GB of RAM, but when you consider
that I might have 5 VMs open and running at one time that is to be
expected.

Ciao . . . C.Joseph

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Heimat
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      8th Nov 2006
CS napisaƂ(a):
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:10:59 GMT, "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> "Malke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...

>
>>> Use Partition Magic and reduce the XP partition. From the space that is
>>> left, create a smallish partition formatted FAT32 for sharing data
>>> between XP and Linux. Install Ubuntu in the last partition. The Linux
>>> bootloader will allow you to boot into either operating system.

>
>> OK, what is Ubuntu's native format? FAT32? Good point
>> I forgot to think about that.

>
> Use either ext3, or ReiserFS. Neither Ubuntu nor any version of Linux
> will install to a FAT-32 partition. Malke suggested that you create a
> small FAT-32 partition for sharing data. Linux distros can read and
> write to FAT-32 but can not be installed to it.

slackware will do install to fat32... it will create one big file (from
windows's point of view) being virtual filesystem

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CS
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      8th Nov 2006
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:33:17 +0100, Heimat
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>>> OK, what is Ubuntu's native format? FAT32? Good point
>>> I forgot to think about that.


>> Use either ext3, or ReiserFS. Neither Ubuntu nor any version of Linux
>> will install to a FAT-32 partition. Malke suggested that you create a
>> small FAT-32 partition for sharing data. Linux distros can read and
>> write to FAT-32 but can not be installed to it.

>slackware will do install to fat32... it will create one big file (from
>windows's point of view) being virtual filesystem


So will VMWare and other virtual machine software packages but that's
not what we're speaking of. Linux must be installed to a Linux native
file system.
 
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