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Stupot
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      7th Apr 2007
I have put a second drive in a friends machine as she wanted to use Win98
and her copy of XP. The new Drive with XP is the only one that boots up. yet
the other drive can be accessed through windows explorer.
The Bios has auto detected both drives, master and slave.
I have never had this problem before. Can anybody help?

PS: Tiny had glued all the IDE cables to the MB and drives. Grrr! No wonder
they went bust.


 
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      7th Apr 2007

"Stupot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have put a second drive in a friends machine as she wanted to use Win98
> and her copy of XP. The new Drive with XP is the only one that boots up.

yet
> the other drive can be accessed through windows explorer.
> The Bios has auto detected both drives, master and slave.
> I have never had this problem before. Can anybody help?
>
> PS: Tiny had glued all the IDE cables to the MB and drives. Grrr! No

wonder
> they went bust.
>
>


When you write "I have never had this problem before" then
I assume you mean that yo do not have an option to boot
from the second disk. Did you ever have a dual boot option
on this machine? How did it work? What happened to it?

There are three ways to dual boot:
a) Some machines have a BIOS that lets you select the
boot disk.
b) If your current boot partition is a FAT32 partition then
you can use the Windows boot loader to give you a
boot option.
c) You install a suitable third-party boot loader, e.g. XOSL.


 
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Terry
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      7th Apr 2007
On 4/7/2007 3:30 PM On a whim, Stupot pounded out on the keyboard

> I have put a second drive in a friends machine as she wanted to use Win98
> and her copy of XP. The new Drive with XP is the only one that boots up. yet
> the other drive can be accessed through windows explorer.
> The Bios has auto detected both drives, master and slave.
> I have never had this problem before. Can anybody help?
>
> PS: Tiny had glued all the IDE cables to the MB and drives. Grrr! No wonder
> they went bust.
>
>


Copy the boot.ini file and post it here. If the Win98 drive is the
master and XP the slave, both on the same channel, you may need to
modify the boot ini, possibly like:

[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Win 98" /fastdetect
/NoExecute=OptIn

If the XP drive is formatted to NTFS, Win98 won't be able to read it
(without 3rd party utilities).

I've seen many manufacturers glue the cables down. I remember there
being a lot of DOA computers when shipped and that was the cheap way to
prevent it. Not a fun thing to mess with later though.

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Rich Barry
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      8th Apr 2007
I think the easiest way to do this would be to reinstall WinXP while
the drive with Win98 is connected. Otherwise you
may be able to change boot drives in the bios.


"Stupot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have put a second drive in a friends machine as she wanted to use Win98
>and her copy of XP. The new Drive with XP is the only one that boots up.
>yet the other drive can be accessed through windows explorer.
> The Bios has auto detected both drives, master and slave.
> I have never had this problem before. Can anybody help?
>
> PS: Tiny had glued all the IDE cables to the MB and drives. Grrr! No
> wonder they went bust.
>



 
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Stupot
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      8th Apr 2007
Thanks for the replies
I won't be back around to her place until after Easter to try some of the
suggestions but the Master drive is the XP on NTFS.
As for the glue... I suppose it makes sense. Early manufactured computers
weren't posted and perhaps didn't suffer the problems of loosened cables.
Hmm! Clamped cables could and should have been designed for these later
problems.
"Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 4/7/2007 3:30 PM On a whim, Stupot pounded out on the keyboard
>
>> I have put a second drive in a friends machine as she wanted to use Win98
>> and her copy of XP. The new Drive with XP is the only one that boots up.
>> yet the other drive can be accessed through windows explorer.
>> The Bios has auto detected both drives, master and slave.
>> I have never had this problem before. Can anybody help?
>>
>> PS: Tiny had glued all the IDE cables to the MB and drives. Grrr! No
>> wonder they went bust.

>
> Copy the boot.ini file and post it here. If the Win98 drive is the master
> and XP the slave, both on the same channel, you may need to modify the
> boot ini, possibly like:
>
> [boot loader]
> timeout=3
> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
> [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
> Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Win 98" /fastdetect
> /NoExecute=OptIn
>
> If the XP drive is formatted to NTFS, Win98 won't be able to read it
> (without 3rd party utilities).
>
> I've seen many manufacturers glue the cables down. I remember there being
> a lot of DOA computers when shipped and that was the cheap way to prevent
> it. Not a fun thing to mess with later though.
>
> --
> Terry
>
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John
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      8th Apr 2007
Stupot wrote:
> I have put a second drive in a friends machine as she wanted to use Win98
> and her copy of XP. The new Drive with XP is the only one that boots up. yet
> the other drive can be accessed through windows explorer.
> The Bios has auto detected both drives, master and slave.
> I have never had this problem before. Can anybody help?
>
> PS: Tiny had glued all the IDE cables to the MB and drives. Grrr! No wonder
> they went bust.




If I had this problem I would just edit boot.ini and add W98 to the boot
list and so have never had the need to try this. However I have read
here that it works and its easy enough to try. You will most likely need
administrator privileges to do this ...

Select start and then run. Type in ...
msconfig.exe
Press <enter> and after it runs click on the 'boot.ini' tab.
Then click on the 'check all boot paths' box.

If it finds W98 follow the prompts and with any luck it will
automagically modify boot.ini to for you to allow booting either W98
*or* XP.

John
 
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Stupot
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      8th Apr 2007
Thanks John I will give that a try first.
"John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Stupot wrote:
>> I have put a second drive in a friends machine as she wanted to use Win98
>> and her copy of XP. The new Drive with XP is the only one that boots up.
>> yet the other drive can be accessed through windows explorer.
>> The Bios has auto detected both drives, master and slave.
>> I have never had this problem before. Can anybody help?
>>
>> PS: Tiny had glued all the IDE cables to the MB and drives. Grrr! No
>> wonder they went bust.

>
>
>
> If I had this problem I would just edit boot.ini and add W98 to the boot
> list and so have never had the need to try this. However I have read here
> that it works and its easy enough to try. You will most likely need
> administrator privileges to do this ...
>
> Select start and then run. Type in ...
> msconfig.exe
> Press <enter> and after it runs click on the 'boot.ini' tab.
> Then click on the 'check all boot paths' box.
>
> If it finds W98 follow the prompts and with any luck it will automagically
> modify boot.ini to for you to allow booting either W98 *or* XP.
>
> John



 
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John
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      8th Apr 2007
Stupot wrote:
> Thanks John I will give that a try first.
> "John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:MWVRh.562$V15.429@trnddc02...
>> Stupot wrote:
>>> I have put a second drive in a friends machine as she wanted to use Win98
>>> and her copy of XP. The new Drive with XP is the only one that boots up.
>>> yet the other drive can be accessed through windows explorer.
>>> The Bios has auto detected both drives, master and slave.
>>> I have never had this problem before. Can anybody help?
>>>
>>> PS: Tiny had glued all the IDE cables to the MB and drives. Grrr! No
>>> wonder they went bust.

>>
>>
>> If I had this problem I would just edit boot.ini and add W98 to the boot
>> list and so have never had the need to try this. However I have read here
>> that it works and its easy enough to try. You will most likely need
>> administrator privileges to do this ...
>>
>> Select start and then run. Type in ...
>> msconfig.exe
>> Press <enter> and after it runs click on the 'boot.ini' tab.
>> Then click on the 'check all boot paths' box.
>>
>> If it finds W98 follow the prompts and with any luck it will automagically
>> modify boot.ini to for you to allow booting either W98 *or* XP.
>>
>> John



You are welcome and I hope it works for you. If it doesn't here is a
boot.ini explained in full from the horse's mouth ...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289022

John
 
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John
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      8th Apr 2007
Stupot wrote:
> Thanks John I will give that a try first.
> "John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:MWVRh.562$V15.429@trnddc02...
>> Stupot wrote:
>>> I have put a second drive in a friends machine as she wanted to use Win98
>>> and her copy of XP. The new Drive with XP is the only one that boots up.
>>> yet the other drive can be accessed through windows explorer.
>>> The Bios has auto detected both drives, master and slave.
>>> I have never had this problem before. Can anybody help?
>>>
>>> PS: Tiny had glued all the IDE cables to the MB and drives. Grrr! No
>>> wonder they went bust.

>>
>>
>> If I had this problem I would just edit boot.ini and add W98 to the boot
>> list and so have never had the need to try this. However I have read here
>> that it works and its easy enough to try. You will most likely need
>> administrator privileges to do this ...
>>
>> Select start and then run. Type in ...
>> msconfig.exe
>> Press <enter> and after it runs click on the 'boot.ini' tab.
>> Then click on the 'check all boot paths' box.
>>
>> If it finds W98 follow the prompts and with any luck it will automagically
>> modify boot.ini to for you to allow booting either W98 *or* XP.
>>
>> John

>
>


This is a more in depth explanation of boot.ini ...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/102873
 
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Ronaldo
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      8th Apr 2007
Try this software: JustBoot Boot Corrector 7.0
http://www.softpedia.com/progScreens...hot-46537.html

Otherwise possible problems you may need to change are:
The boot.ini file may need some editing, the Win98 OS may have to be set as
default, or you may have to switch the HDs around.

Possible solutions:
Go to; Control Panel\System\Advanced\Start & Recovery\Settings\ Edit the
boot.ini file if necesary to include the Win98 in the appropriate order
and/or set the Win98 as the default OS in the scroll window. Or, switch the
drives around, with the Win98 as Master and the one with XP as Slave.
Reason is, the earlier OS should appear as first installation or
partition/drive and later OS next.

Make a boot disk just in case you encounter trouble to boot up the system.
Download files to make bootdisks of any OS.
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

Instructions to make your own bootdisk
How to create a boot disk
http://www.computerhope.com/boot.htm

Or automate your chores while avoiding errors and install a Boot Manager
Software like JustBoot Boot Corrector
http://www.softpedia.com/progScreens...hot-46537.html

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> I have put a second drive in a friends machine as she wanted to use Win98
> and her copy of XP. The new Drive with XP is the only one that boots up.

yet
> the other drive can be accessed through windows explorer.
> The Bios has auto detected both drives, master and slave.
> I have never had this problem before. Can anybody help?
>
> PS: Tiny had glued all the IDE cables to the MB and drives. Grrr! No

wonder
> they went bust.
>
>




 
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