Here's one for you:

What if you applied the patch, and see the correct time (and note that it
says "Eastern Daylight Time" on the date/time applet) and then reboot?

I find the time displayed is 1hr off (backwards, so it's supposed to be
1:30, but displays 12:30).

So I go back into the Date/Time applet, and find that it says "Eastern
Standard Time". Then I hit the Time Zone tab and change to another
timezone, and back immediately to Eastern. I make sure the Daylight
checkbox is checked. Hit Apply, and the time display correctly again, until
the next reboot.

What can I do for this?! A portion of the clocks on my network are
displaying correctly, others are showing an hour off. No rhyme or reason to
it.

Thanks in advance!

Ken B

Are you part of a domain? Do the domain controllers also have the DST
updates applied to them? You could be synching with servers that have their
own time incorrect.


"KenB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Here's one for you:
>
> What if you applied the patch, and see the correct time (and note that it
> says "Eastern Daylight Time" on the date/time applet) and then reboot?
>
> I find the time displayed is 1hr off (backwards, so it's supposed to be
> 1:30, but displays 12:30).
>
> So I go back into the Date/Time applet, and find that it says "Eastern
> Standard Time". Then I hit the Time Zone tab and change to another
> timezone, and back immediately to Eastern. I make sure the Daylight
> checkbox is checked. Hit Apply, and the time display correctly again,
> until the next reboot.
>
> What can I do for this?! A portion of the clocks on my network are
> displaying correctly, others are showing an hour off. No rhyme or reason
> to it.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Ken B
>
>

KenB wrote:
> Here's one for you:
>
> What if you applied the patch, and see the correct time (and note that it
> says "Eastern Daylight Time" on the date/time applet) and then reboot?
>
> I find the time displayed is 1hr off (backwards, so it's supposed to be
> 1:30, but displays 12:30).
>
> So I go back into the Date/Time applet, and find that it says "Eastern
> Standard Time". Then I hit the Time Zone tab and change to another
> timezone, and back immediately to Eastern. I make sure the Daylight
> checkbox is checked. Hit Apply, and the time display correctly again, until
> the next reboot.

_After_ you do the above and enter the correct time open a command
prompt and issue:

w32tm /resync /rediscover

What happens?

John

C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools>w32tm /resync /rediscover
Sending resync command to local computer...
The command completed successfully.

C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools>w32tm /monitor
trcdc01.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.151]:
ICMP: 0ms delay.
NTP: -0.0247794s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
RefID: trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.158]
trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL *** PDC *** [120.0.0.158]:
ICMP: 0ms delay.
NTP: +0.0000000s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
RefID: shlroot01.cw.local [10.7.226.125]



C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools>

"John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> KenB wrote:
>> Here's one for you:
>>
>> What if you applied the patch, and see the correct time (and note that it
>> says "Eastern Daylight Time" on the date/time applet) and then reboot?
>>
>> I find the time displayed is 1hr off (backwards, so it's supposed to be
>> 1:30, but displays 12:30).
>>
>> So I go back into the Date/Time applet, and find that it says "Eastern
>> Standard Time". Then I hit the Time Zone tab and change to another
>> timezone, and back immediately to Eastern. I make sure the Daylight
>> checkbox is checked. Hit Apply, and the time display correctly again,
>> until the next reboot.
>
> _After_ you do the above and enter the correct time open a command prompt
> and issue:
>
> w32tm /resync /rediscover
>
> What happens?
>
> John
>

"Joe Grover" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Are you part of a domain? Do the domain controllers also have the DST
> updates applied to them? You could be synching with servers that have
> their own time incorrect.
>
>
> "KenB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Here's one for you:
>>
>> What if you applied the patch, and see the correct time (and note that it
>> says "Eastern Daylight Time" on the date/time applet) and then reboot?
>>
>> I find the time displayed is 1hr off (backwards, so it's supposed to be
>> 1:30, but displays 12:30).
>>
>> So I go back into the Date/Time applet, and find that it says "Eastern
>> Standard Time". Then I hit the Time Zone tab and change to another
>> timezone, and back immediately to Eastern. I make sure the Daylight
>> checkbox is checked. Hit Apply, and the time display correctly again,
>> until the next reboot.
>>
>> What can I do for this?! A portion of the clocks on my network are
>> displaying correctly, others are showing an hour off. No rhyme or reason
>> to it.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Ken B
>>
>>
>
>

Joe-

Yes, I do have 931836 applied to both DC's. Both DC's are displaying the
correct time (currently the time in the taskbar shows 11:53a Eastern
Daylight Time).

I was on that track, but the DC's showed the correct time and settings--it's
just on the workstations that the time isn't displaying right. It appears
that the UTC time behind it is correct--otherwise, the users would not be
able to login to their PC's.

Any other ideas?

Thanks

Ken

"John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> KenB wrote:
>> Here's one for you:
>>
>> What if you applied the patch, and see the correct time (and note that it
>> says "Eastern Daylight Time" on the date/time applet) and then reboot?
>>
>> I find the time displayed is 1hr off (backwards, so it's supposed to be
>> 1:30, but displays 12:30).
>>
>> So I go back into the Date/Time applet, and find that it says "Eastern
>> Standard Time". Then I hit the Time Zone tab and change to another
>> timezone, and back immediately to Eastern. I make sure the Daylight
>> checkbox is checked. Hit Apply, and the time display correctly again,
>> until the next reboot.
>
> _After_ you do the above and enter the correct time open a command prompt
> and issue:
>
> w32tm /resync /rediscover
>
> What happens?
>
> John
>

Just rebooted (had the correct time displayed as a result of doing the time
zone re-application I wrote about. It shows the time as 10:44 (an hour
earlier than it should be). If I issue the command you said, w32tm /resync
/rediscover , it says "Sending resync command to local computer... The
command completed seuccessfully." Yet, the time displayed is still an hour
back.

If I do:
c:\w32tm /tz, I get:
Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_STANDARD Bias: 300min (UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:10 D:5 DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:4 D:1 DoW:0)]
(this almost looks like the rule is set for month 4, day 1 (so April 1--the
old rule)

If I do:
c:\w32tm /monitor, I get:
trcdc01.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.151]:
ICMP: 0ms delay.
NTP: +0.0192818s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
RefID: trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.158]
trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL *** PDC *** [120.0.0.158]:
ICMP: 0ms delay.
NTP: +0.0000000s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
RefID: shlroot01.cw.local [10.7.226.125]

Opening tzedit shows the correct rules (Daylight Saving Time Start date/time
Second Sunday of March at 2a, end at First Sunday November at 2a).

Let me know if this helps you out... or if there's anythign else I should be
looking at.

Thanks

Ken

And did the command cause the time to change or be readjusted?

John

KenB wrote:

> C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools>w32tm /resync /rediscover
> Sending resync command to local computer...
> The command completed successfully.
>
> C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools>w32tm /monitor
> trcdc01.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.151]:
> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> NTP: -0.0247794s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
> RefID: trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.158]
> trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL *** PDC *** [120.0.0.158]:
> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
> RefID: shlroot01.cw.local [10.7.226.125]
>
>
>
> C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools>
>
> "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>KenB wrote:
>>
>>>Here's one for you:
>>>
>>>What if you applied the patch, and see the correct time (and note that it
>>>says "Eastern Daylight Time" on the date/time applet) and then reboot?
>>>
>>>I find the time displayed is 1hr off (backwards, so it's supposed to be
>>>1:30, but displays 12:30).
>>>
>>>So I go back into the Date/Time applet, and find that it says "Eastern
>>>Standard Time". Then I hit the Time Zone tab and change to another
>>>timezone, and back immediately to Eastern. I make sure the Daylight
>>>checkbox is checked. Hit Apply, and the time display correctly again,
>>>until the next reboot.
>>
>>_After_ you do the above and enter the correct time open a command prompt
>>and issue:
>>
>>w32tm /resync /rediscover
>>
>>What happens?
>>
>>John
>>
>
>
>

KenB wrote:
> "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>KenB wrote:
>>
>>>Here's one for you:
>>>
>>>What if you applied the patch, and see the correct time (and note that it
>>>says "Eastern Daylight Time" on the date/time applet) and then reboot?
>>>
>>>I find the time displayed is 1hr off (backwards, so it's supposed to be
>>>1:30, but displays 12:30).
>>>
>>>So I go back into the Date/Time applet, and find that it says "Eastern
>>>Standard Time". Then I hit the Time Zone tab and change to another
>>>timezone, and back immediately to Eastern. I make sure the Daylight
>>>checkbox is checked. Hit Apply, and the time display correctly again,
>>>until the next reboot.
>>
>>_After_ you do the above and enter the correct time open a command prompt
>>and issue:
>>
>>w32tm /resync /rediscover
>>
>>What happens?
>>
>>John
>>
>
>
> Just rebooted (had the correct time displayed as a result of doing the time
> zone re-application I wrote about. It shows the time as 10:44 (an hour
> earlier than it should be). If I issue the command you said, w32tm /resync
> /rediscover , it says "Sending resync command to local computer... The
> command completed seuccessfully." Yet, the time displayed is still an hour
> back.
>
> If I do:
> c:\w32tm /tz, I get:
> Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_STANDARD Bias: 300min (UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
> [Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:10 D:5 DoW:0)]
> [Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:4 D:1 DoW:0)]
> (this almost looks like the rule is set for month 4, day 1 (so April 1--the
> old rule)
>
> If I do:
> c:\w32tm /monitor, I get:
> trcdc01.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.151]:
> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> NTP: +0.0192818s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
> RefID: trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.158]
> trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL *** PDC *** [120.0.0.158]:
> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
> RefID: shlroot01.cw.local [10.7.226.125]
>
> Opening tzedit shows the correct rules (Daylight Saving Time Start date/time
> Second Sunday of March at 2a, end at First Sunday November at 2a).
>
> Let me know if this helps you out... or if there's anythign else I should be
> looking at.

I'm going to have to think about this and do some searching. I was
thinking that the computers might be synchronizing to different servers,
that could have explained why some machines were off and others not.

In the meantime use tzedit again and look at the ""Eastern Daylight
Time" Daylight Bias: It should be +1:00 hours. The information posted
above seems to show it as being set at -1:00 hours (Bias:-60min).

John

"John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> KenB wrote:
>> "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>KenB wrote:
>>>
>>>>Here's one for you:
>>>>
>>>>What if you applied the patch, and see the correct time (and note that
>>>>it says "Eastern Daylight Time" on the date/time applet) and then
>>>>reboot?
>>>>
>>>>I find the time displayed is 1hr off (backwards, so it's supposed to be
>>>>1:30, but displays 12:30).
>>>>
>>>>So I go back into the Date/Time applet, and find that it says "Eastern
>>>>Standard Time". Then I hit the Time Zone tab and change to another
>>>>timezone, and back immediately to Eastern. I make sure the Daylight
>>>>checkbox is checked. Hit Apply, and the time display correctly again,
>>>>until the next reboot.
>>>
>>>_After_ you do the above and enter the correct time open a command prompt
>>>and issue:
>>>
>>>w32tm /resync /rediscover
>>>
>>>What happens?
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>
>>
>> Just rebooted (had the correct time displayed as a result of doing the
>> time zone re-application I wrote about. It shows the time as 10:44 (an
>> hour earlier than it should be). If I issue the command you said, w32tm
>> /resync /rediscover , it says "Sending resync command to local
>> computer... The command completed seuccessfully." Yet, the time
>> displayed is still an hour back.
>>
>> If I do:
>> c:\w32tm /tz, I get:
>> Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_STANDARD Bias: 300min
>> (UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
>> [Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:10 D:5 DoW:0)]
>> [Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:4 D:1
>> DoW:0)]
>> (this almost looks like the rule is set for month 4, day 1 (so April
>> 1--the old rule)
>>
>> If I do:
>> c:\w32tm /monitor, I get:
>> trcdc01.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.151]:
>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
>> NTP: +0.0192818s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
>> RefID: trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.158]
>> trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL *** PDC *** [120.0.0.158]:
>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
>> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
>> RefID: shlroot01.cw.local [10.7.226.125]
>>
>> Opening tzedit shows the correct rules (Daylight Saving Time Start
>> date/time Second Sunday of March at 2a, end at First Sunday November at
>> 2a).
>>
>> Let me know if this helps you out... or if there's anythign else I should
>> be looking at.
>
> I'm going to have to think about this and do some searching. I was
> thinking that the computers might be synchronizing to different servers,
> that could have explained why some machines were off and others not.
>
> In the meantime use tzedit again and look at the ""Eastern Daylight Time"
> Daylight Bias: It should be +1:00 hours. The information posted above
> seems to show it as being set at -1:00 hours (Bias:-60min).
>
> John
>

Odd... If I manually do the re-application of time zone, and display the
correct time, TZEdit shows the right rule (+1:00), but wm32tm /tz
shows -60... there's a discrepancy /somewhere/

I appreciate your efforts in finding the solution on this... it's baffling
to me!

Ken

On Mar 14, 2:33 pm, "KenB" <kbrus...@curtisswright.com> wrote:
> "John John" <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>
>
>
> > KenB wrote:
> >> "John John" <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> >>>KenB wrote:
>
> >>>>Here's one for you:
>
> >>>>What if you applied the patch, and see the correct time (and note that
> >>>>it says "Eastern Daylight Time" on the date/time applet) and then
> >>>>reboot?
>
> >>>>I find the time displayed is 1hr off (backwards, so it's supposed to be
> >>>>1:30, but displays 12:30).
>
> >>>>So I go back into the Date/Time applet, and find that it says "Eastern
> >>>>Standard Time". Then I hit the Time Zone tab and change to another
> >>>>timezone, and back immediately to Eastern. I make sure the Daylight
> >>>>checkbox is checked. Hit Apply, and the time display correctly again,
> >>>>until the next reboot.
>
> >>>_After_ you do the above and enter the correct time open a command prompt
> >>>and issue:
>
> >>>w32tm /resync /rediscover
>
> >>>What happens?
>
> >>>John
>
> >> Just rebooted (had the correct time displayed as a result of doing the
> >> time zone re-application I wrote about. It shows the time as 10:44 (an
> >> hour earlier than it should be). If I issue the command you said, w32tm
> >> /resync /rediscover , it says "Sending resync command to local
> >> computer... The command completed seuccessfully." Yet, the time
> >> displayed is still an hour back.
>
> >> If I do:
> >> c:\w32tm /tz, I get:
> >> Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_STANDARD Bias: 300min
> >> (UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
> >> [Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:10 D:5 DoW:0)]
> >> [Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:4 D:1
> >> DoW:0)]
> >> (this almost looks like the rule is set for month 4, day 1 (so April
> >> 1--the old rule)
>
> >> If I do:
> >> c:\w32tm /monitor, I get:
> >> trcdc01.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.151]:
> >> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> >> NTP: +0.0192818s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
> >> RefID: trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL [120.0.0.158]
> >> trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL *** PDC *** [120.0.0.158]:
> >> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> >> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from trcdc02.trc.CW.LOCAL
> >> RefID: shlroot01.cw.local [10.7.226.125]
>
> >> Opening tzedit shows the correct rules (Daylight Saving Time Start
> >> date/time Second Sunday of March at 2a, end at First Sunday November at
> >> 2a).
>
> >> Let me know if this helps you out... or if there's anythign else I should
> >> be looking at.
>
> > I'm going to have to think about this and do some searching. I was
> > thinking that the computers might be synchronizing to different servers,
> > that could have explained why some machines were off and others not.
>
> > In the meantime use tzedit again and look at the ""Eastern Daylight Time"
> > Daylight Bias: It should be +1:00 hours. The information posted above
> > seems to show it as being set at -1:00 hours (Bias:-60min).
>
> > John
>
> Odd... If I manually do the re-application of time zone, and display the
> correct time, TZEdit shows the right rule (+1:00), but wm32tm /tz
> shows -60... there's a discrepancy /somewhere/
>
> I appreciate your efforts in finding the solution on this... it's baffling
> to me!
>
> Ken

I came across the exact same issue as Ken, out of 130 or so PC's here
only 1 of them is experiencing this problem. No resolution for it on
my end yet.