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Access is Denied Error Message XP Pro:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881 Shared folder access: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/sdperms.htm Also read this MS KB article about how to take ownership of files. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421 Understanding and Applying NTFS Permission in Windows XP Professional http://www.winxpsolution.com/ApplyingNTFSXPPro.aspx There is also a utility named: Unlocker I have not used it but it has been mentioned a number of times. http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ JS "GregCost" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:F5D0845F-FDAE-4501-85CF-(E-Mail Removed)... > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer > was > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not > effective) and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after > windows > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on > another drive on the system. > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the > drive > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is > being > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied" > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not > in > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click > apply > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission > changes. > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to > the > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages. > > Tried a couple of things: > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > "Access denied" > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > "Access denied" > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned > one level up > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory) > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F > <Account Domain not found>F > <Account Domain not > found><OI><CI><IO>F > > WHEN I try the following: > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F > > response 1: are you sure? > response 2: The media is write protected > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still > has > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't > quite > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to > copy > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? > or > basic property accessibility > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, > SCSI > > Thanks Greg > |
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer was > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not > effective) You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll address the question in your parenthesis above. A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around Two more points: 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100. 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting. > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after windows > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on > another drive on the system. > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the drive > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is being > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied" > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not in > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click apply > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission changes. > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to the > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages. > > Tried a couple of things: > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > "Access denied" > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > "Access denied" > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned > one level up > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory) > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F > <Account Domain not found>F > <Account Domain not found><OI><CI><IO>F > > WHEN I try the following: > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F > > response 1: are you sure? > response 2: The media is write protected > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still has > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't quite > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to copy > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? or > basic property accessibility > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, SCSI > > Thanks Greg -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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GregCost
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Hi Ken, JS,
I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is a cheap one - no more. Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly Greg "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: > > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer was > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not > > effective) > > > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll > address the question in your parenthesis above. > > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around > > Two more points: > > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100. > > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting. > > > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after windows > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on > > another drive on the system. > > > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the drive > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is being > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied" > > > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not in > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click apply > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission changes. > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to the > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages. > > > > Tried a couple of things: > > > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > > "Access denied" > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > > "Access denied" > > > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned > > one level up > > > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory) > > > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F > > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F > > <Account Domain not found>F > > <Account Domain not found><OI><CI><IO>F > > > > WHEN I try the following: > > > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F > > > > response 1: are you sure? > > response 2: The media is write protected > > > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still has > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't quite > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to copy > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? or > > basic property accessibility > > > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, SCSI > > > > Thanks Greg > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > |
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GregCost
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Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to
wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error: 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected. I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error. On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig. The failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with service pack 3 installed. The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard shutdown on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure that’s even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write protection option turned on. I’ll also check to see if there is a jumper on the drive for write protection. Other possibilities … I did notice some sort of security ID that has a Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP… when I try and delete it XP report s the same “Media write Protect”. Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above? Open to additional suggestions. Thanks Greg "GregCost" wrote: > Hi Ken, JS, > > I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is a > cheap one - no more. > > Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly > > Greg > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost > > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: > > > > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer was > > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not > > > effective) > > > > > > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll > > address the question in your parenthesis above. > > > > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much > > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection > > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line > > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around > > > > Two more points: > > > > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power > > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension > > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent > > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100. > > > > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no > > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all > > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting. > > > > > > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system > > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after windows > > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on > > > another drive on the system. > > > > > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the drive > > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual > > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is being > > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied" > > > > > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the > > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not in > > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it > > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click apply > > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission changes. > > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to the > > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages. > > > > > > Tried a couple of things: > > > > > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > > > "Access denied" > > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > > > "Access denied" > > > > > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned > > > one level up > > > > > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory) > > > > > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F > > > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F > > > <Account Domain not found>F > > > <Account Domain not found><OI><CI><IO>F > > > > > > WHEN I try the following: > > > > > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F > > > > > > response 1: are you sure? > > > response 2: The media is write protected > > > > > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still has > > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't quite > > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to copy > > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? or > > > basic property accessibility > > > > > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, SCSI > > > > > > Thanks Greg > > > > -- > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > > |
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JS
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You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.
BART PE http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ Puppy Linux: http://www.puppylinux.org/ JS "GregCost" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-(E-Mail Removed)... > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error: > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected. > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error. > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig. > The > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with > service > pack 3 installed. > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard > shutdown > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write > protection > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the > drive > for write protection. > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has a > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. when > I > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect". > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above? > > Open to additional suggestions. > > Thanks Greg > > > "GregCost" wrote: > >> Hi Ken, JS, >> >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is >> a >> cheap one - no more. >> >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly >> >> Greg >> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost >> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: >> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my >> > > computer was >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not >> > > effective) >> > >> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll >> > address the question in your parenthesis above. >> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around >> > >> > Two more points: >> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100. >> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting. >> > >> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after >> > > windows >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows >> > > on >> > > another drive on the system. >> > > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on >> > > the drive >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE >> > > Visual >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is >> > > being >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied" >> > > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at >> > > the >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID >> > > Is not in >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP >> > > validates it >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I >> > > click apply >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission >> > > changes. >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive >> > > to the >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages. >> > > >> > > Tried a couple of things: >> > > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" >> > > "Access denied" >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" >> > > "Access denied" >> > > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt >> > > positioned >> > > one level up >> > > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory) >> > > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F >> > > NT >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F >> > > <Account Domain not found>F >> > > <Account Domain not >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F >> > > >> > > WHEN I try the following: >> > > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F >> > > >> > > response 1: are you sure? >> > > response 2: The media is write protected >> > > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question >> > > still has >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system >> > > can't quite >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able >> > > to copy >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some >> > > default? or >> > > basic property accessibility >> > > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, >> > > SCSI >> > > >> > > Thanks Greg >> > >> > -- >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup >> > |
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I'll give it a try, thanks JS
Greg "JS" wrote: > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files. > > BART PE > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ > > Puppy Linux: > http://www.puppylinux.org/ > > JS > > "GregCost" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-(E-Mail Removed)... > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error: > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected. > > > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error. > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig. > > The > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with > > service > > pack 3 installed. > > > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard > > shutdown > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write > > protection > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the > > drive > > for write protection. > > > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has a > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. when > > I > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect". > > > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above? > > > > Open to additional suggestions. > > > > Thanks Greg > > > > > > "GregCost" wrote: > > > >> Hi Ken, JS, > >> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is > >> a > >> cheap one - no more. > >> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > >> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost > >> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my > >> > > computer was > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not > >> > > effective) > >> > > >> > > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above. > >> > > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around > >> > > >> > Two more points: > >> > > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100. > >> > > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting. > >> > > >> > > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after > >> > > windows > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows > >> > > on > >> > > another drive on the system. > >> > > > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on > >> > > the drive > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE > >> > > Visual > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is > >> > > being > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied" > >> > > > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at > >> > > the > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID > >> > > Is not in > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP > >> > > validates it > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I > >> > > click apply > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission > >> > > changes. > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive > >> > > to the > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages. > >> > > > >> > > Tried a couple of things: > >> > > > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > >> > > "Access denied" > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > >> > > "Access denied" > >> > > > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt > >> > > positioned > >> > > one level up > >> > > > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory) > >> > > > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F > >> > > NT > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F > >> > > <Account Domain not found>F > >> > > <Account Domain not > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F > >> > > > >> > > WHEN I try the following: > >> > > > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F > >> > > > >> > > response 1: are you sure? > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected > >> > > > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question > >> > > still has > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system > >> > > can't quite > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able > >> > > to copy > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some > >> > > default? or > >> > > basic property accessibility > >> > > > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, > >> > > SCSI > >> > > > >> > > Thanks Greg > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > >> > > > > |
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Worked like a champ; I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring the
drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken. I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly on SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on or trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to change the pattern. I'll post the results here. Thanks again guys. Greg "GregCost" wrote: > I'll give it a try, thanks JS > > Greg > > "JS" wrote: > > > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files. > > > > BART PE > > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ > > > > Puppy Linux: > > http://www.puppylinux.org/ > > > > JS > > > > "GregCost" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-(E-Mail Removed)... > > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to > > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error: > > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected. > > > > > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and > > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error. > > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig. > > > The > > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with > > > service > > > pack 3 installed. > > > > > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard > > > shutdown > > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure > > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru > > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write > > > protection > > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the > > > drive > > > for write protection. > > > > > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has a > > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. when > > > I > > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect". > > > > > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above? > > > > > > Open to additional suggestions. > > > > > > Thanks Greg > > > > > > > > > "GregCost" wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Ken, JS, > > >> > > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is > > >> a > > >> cheap one - no more. > > >> > > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly > > >> > > >> Greg > > >> > > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > > >> > > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost > > >> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my > > >> > > computer was > > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not > > >> > > effective) > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll > > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above. > > >> > > > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much > > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection > > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line > > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around > > >> > > > >> > Two more points: > > >> > > > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power > > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension > > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent > > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100. > > >> > > > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no > > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all > > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system > > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after > > >> > > windows > > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows > > >> > > on > > >> > > another drive on the system. > > >> > > > > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on > > >> > > the drive > > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE > > >> > > Visual > > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is > > >> > > being > > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied" > > >> > > > > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at > > >> > > the > > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID > > >> > > Is not in > > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP > > >> > > validates it > > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I > > >> > > click apply > > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission > > >> > > changes. > > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive > > >> > > to the > > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages. > > >> > > > > >> > > Tried a couple of things: > > >> > > > > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > > >> > > "Access denied" > > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected" > > >> > > "Access denied" > > >> > > > > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt > > >> > > positioned > > >> > > one level up > > >> > > > > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory) > > >> > > > > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F > > >> > > NT > > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F > > >> > > <Account Domain not found>F > > >> > > <Account Domain not > > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F > > >> > > > > >> > > WHEN I try the following: > > >> > > > > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F > > >> > > > > >> > > response 1: are you sure? > > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected > > >> > > > > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question > > >> > > still has > > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system > > >> > > can't quite > > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able > > >> > > to copy > > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some > > >> > > default? or > > >> > > basic property accessibility > > >> > > > > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, > > >> > > SCSI > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks Greg > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > > >> > > > > > > > |
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By the way, which utility did you use? JS "GregCost" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:48EEF489-0110-46D9-BD47-(E-Mail Removed)... > Worked like a champ; I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring > the > drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken. > > I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly on > SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on or > trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to change > the pattern. I'll post the results here. > > Thanks again guys. Greg > > > > > > "GregCost" wrote: > >> I'll give it a try, thanks JS >> >> Greg >> >> "JS" wrote: >> >> > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files. >> > >> > BART PE >> > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ >> > >> > Puppy Linux: >> > http://www.puppylinux.org/ >> > >> > JS >> > >> > "GregCost" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-(E-Mail Removed)... >> > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the >> > > changes to >> > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error: >> > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected. >> > > >> > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what >> > > and >> > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 >> > > error. >> > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ >> > > 137Gig. >> > > The >> > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with >> > > service >> > > pack 3 installed. >> > > >> > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard >> > > shutdown >> > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not >> > > sure >> > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives >> > > thru >> > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write >> > > protection >> > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the >> > > drive >> > > for write protection. >> > > >> > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has >> > > a >> > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. >> > > when >> > > I >> > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect". >> > > >> > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above? >> > > >> > > Open to additional suggestions. >> > > >> > > Thanks Greg >> > > >> > > >> > > "GregCost" wrote: >> > > >> > >> Hi Ken, JS, >> > >> >> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge >> > >> protector is >> > >> a >> > >> cheap one - no more. >> > >> >> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly >> > >> >> > >> Greg >> > >> >> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost >> > >> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my >> > >> > > computer was >> > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it >> > >> > > was not >> > >> > > effective) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but >> > >> > I'll >> > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above. >> > >> > >> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of >> > >> > volts--much >> > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection >> > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power >> > >> > line >> > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around >> > >> > >> > >> > Two more points: >> > >> > >> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power >> > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy >> > >> > extension >> > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A >> > >> > decent >> > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100. >> > >> > >> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no >> > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, >> > >> > all >> > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system >> > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death >> > >> > > after >> > >> > > windows >> > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install >> > >> > > Windows >> > >> > > on >> > >> > > another drive on the system. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere >> > >> > > on >> > >> > > the drive >> > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF >> > >> > > COURSE >> > >> > > Visual >> > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important >> > >> > > stuff is >> > >> > > being >> > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied" >> > >> > > >> > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look >> > >> > > at >> > >> > > the >> > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my >> > >> > > SID >> > >> > > Is not in >> > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP >> > >> > > validates it >> > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I >> > >> > > click apply >> > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply >> > >> > > permission >> > >> > > changes. >> > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows >> > >> > > drive >> > >> > > to the >> > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Tried a couple of things: >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is >> > >> > > protected" >> > >> > > "Access denied" >> > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is >> > >> > > protected" >> > >> > > "Access denied" >> > >> > > >> > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt >> > >> > > positioned >> > >> > > one level up >> > >> > > >> > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub >> > >> > > directory) >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F >> > >> > > NT >> > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F >> > >> > > <Account Domain not >> > >> > > found>F >> > >> > > <Account Domain not >> > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F >> > >> > > >> > >> > > WHEN I try the following: >> > >> > > >> > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F >> > >> > > >> > >> > > response 1: are you sure? >> > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in >> > >> > > question >> > >> > > still has >> > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system >> > >> > > can't quite >> > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am >> > >> > > able >> > >> > > to copy >> > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is >> > >> > > some >> > >> > > default? or >> > >> > > basic property accessibility >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all >> > >> > > drives, >> > >> > > SCSI >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Thanks Greg >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience >> > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > |
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"JS" wrote: > You're welcome. > By the way, which utility did you use? > > JS > > "GregCost" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:48EEF489-0110-46D9-BD47-(E-Mail Removed)... > > Worked like a champ; I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring > > the > > drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken. > > > > I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly on > > SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on or > > trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to change > > the pattern. I'll post the results here. > > > > Thanks again guys. Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > "GregCost" wrote: > > > >> I'll give it a try, thanks JS > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> "JS" wrote: > >> > >> > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files. > >> > > >> > BART PE > >> > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ > >> > > >> > Puppy Linux: > >> > http://www.puppylinux.org/ > >> > > >> > JS > >> > > >> > "GregCost" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-(E-Mail Removed)... > >> > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the > >> > > changes to > >> > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error: > >> > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected. > >> > > > >> > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what > >> > > and > >> > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 > >> > > error. > >> > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ > >> > > 137Gig. > >> > > The > >> > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with > >> > > service > >> > > pack 3 installed. > >> > > > >> > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard > >> > > shutdown > >> > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not > >> > > sure > >> > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives > >> > > thru > >> > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write > >> > > protection > >> > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the > >> > > drive > >> > > for write protection. > >> > > > >> > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has > >> > > a > >> > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. > >> > > when > >> > > I > >> > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect". > >> > > > >> > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above? > >> > > > >> > > Open to additional suggestions. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks Greg > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > "GregCost" wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> Hi Ken, JS, > >> > >> > >> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge > >> > >> protector is > >> > >> a > >> > >> cheap one - no more. > >> > >> > >> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly > >> > >> > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> > >> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost > >> > >> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my > >> > >> > > computer was > >> > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it > >> > >> > > was not > >> > >> > > effective) > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but > >> > >> > I'll > >> > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of > >> > >> > volts--much > >> > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection > >> > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power > >> > >> > line > >> > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Two more points: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power > >> > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy > >> > >> > extension > >> > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A > >> > >> > decent > >> > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no > >> > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, > >> > >> > all > >> > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system > >> > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death > >> > >> > > after > >> > >> > > windows > >> > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install > >> > >> > > Windows > >> > >> > > on > >> > >> > > another drive on the system. > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere > >> > >> > > on > >> > >> > > the drive > >> > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF > >> > >> > > COURSE > >> > >> > > Visual > >> > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important > >> > >> > > stuff is > >> > >> > > being > >> > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied" > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look > >> > >> > > at > >> > >> > > the > >> > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my > >> > >> > > SID > >> > >> > > Is not in > >> > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP > >> > >> > > validates it > >> > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I > >> > >> > > click apply > >> > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply > >> > >> > > permission > >> > >> > > changes. > >> > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows > >> > >> > > drive > >> > >> > > to the > >> > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages. > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Tried a couple of things: > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is > >> > >> > > protected" > >> > >> > > "Access denied" > >> > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is > >> > >> > > protected" > >> > >> > > "Access denied" > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt > >> > >> > > positioned > >> > >> > > one level up > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub > >> > >> > > directory) > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F > >> > >> > > NT > >> > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F > >> > >> > > <Account Domain not > >> > >> > > found>F > >> > >> > > <Account Domain not > >> > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > WHEN I try the following: > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > response 1: are you sure? > >> > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in > >> > >> > > question > >> > >> > > still has > >> > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system > >> > >> > > can't quite > >> > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am > >> > >> > > able > >> > >> > > to copy > >> > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is > >> > >> > > some > >> > >> > > default? or > >> > >> > > basic property accessibility > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all > >> > >> > > drives, > >> > >> > > SCSI > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Thanks Greg > >> > >> > > >> > >> > -- > >> > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > >> > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > |
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