I am now lost! In a previous thread, now not being replied to any more, I
said I had installed and cloned a new drive. see below:



"I just installed a larger drive and cloned old drive to it using their, WD,
supplied software.
Made the new drive the boot drive "C". All is fine but I have had two
programs that required reregistering so far causing me to wonder if any
XP-sp3 settings may have gotten changed that I should be aware of.
SG"



I thought all was OK after reading replies but now a new problem has
surfaced. I am no longer sure what drive is doing what!!

INFO: After cloning I had to swap SATA-0 and SATA-1 plugs and then renamed
in the directory tree the new drive to "new boot (C" and old to "old drive
(F"

Windows explorer shows all newer and revised files going into new C drive
and no new files into F for past week. "Exactly as expected"

However when I tried to create a manual restore point I received this
message "system restore is unable to create a restore point. please restart
the computer, and then run system restore again." Restarting did not correct
problem. Also no recent restore points listed.

Further troubleshooting found that in the control panel-system-system
restore;

drive old drive (F is listed as system drive and restore is ON

drive new boot (C is listed as also having restore on but not as
system drive.



I am now totally confused, not even sure which drive is booting system. My
desire is to use the new boot(C for everything and totally ignore the old
drive except maybe to store some old files in.

Help is truly appreciated making new drive system drive and reactivating the
restore feature.

Sorry for long post but its hard to explain in less.

SG

shakey wrote:
> I am now lost! In a previous thread, now not being replied to any
> more, I said I had installed and cloned a new drive. see below:
>
>
>
> "I just installed a larger drive and cloned old drive to it using
> their, WD, supplied software.
> Made the new drive the boot drive "C". All is fine but I have had
> two programs that required reregistering so far causing me to
> wonder if any XP-sp3 settings may have gotten changed that I should
> be aware of. SG"
>
>
>
> I thought all was OK after reading replies but now a new problem has
> surfaced. I am no longer sure what drive is doing what!!
>
> INFO: After cloning I had to swap SATA-0 and SATA-1 plugs and then
> renamed in the directory tree the new drive to "new boot (C" and
> old to "old drive (F"
>
> Windows explorer shows all newer and revised files going into new C
> drive and no new files into F for past week. "Exactly as expected"
>
> However when I tried to create a manual restore point I received
> this message "system restore is unable to create a restore point.
> please restart the computer, and then run system restore again."
> Restarting did not correct problem. Also no recent restore points
> listed.
> Further troubleshooting found that in the control
> panel-system-system restore;
>
> drive old drive (F is listed as system drive and restore is ON
>
> drive new boot (C is listed as also having restore on but not
> as system drive.
>
>
>
> I am now totally confused, not even sure which drive is booting
> system. My desire is to use the new boot(C for everything and
> totally ignore the old drive except maybe to store some old files
> in.
> Help is truly appreciated making new drive system drive and
> reactivating the restore feature.
>
> Sorry for long post but its hard to explain in less.

But you got a reply today at 1:52AM on your other post - and you have not
responded to that.

Unhook the old drive - does it boot?
If so - change your system restore settings - turn off system restore,
reboot, turn on system restore.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"Shenan Stanley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> shakey wrote:
>> I am now lost! In a previous thread, now not being replied to any
>> more, I said I had installed and cloned a new drive. see below:
>>
>>
>>
>> "I just installed a larger drive and cloned old drive to it using
>> their, WD, supplied software.
>> Made the new drive the boot drive "C". All is fine but I have had
>> two programs that required reregistering so far causing me to
>> wonder if any XP-sp3 settings may have gotten changed that I should
>> be aware of. SG"
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought all was OK after reading replies but now a new problem has
>> surfaced. I am no longer sure what drive is doing what!!
>>
>> INFO: After cloning I had to swap SATA-0 and SATA-1 plugs and then
>> renamed in the directory tree the new drive to "new boot (C" and
>> old to "old drive (F"
>>
>> Windows explorer shows all newer and revised files going into new C
>> drive and no new files into F for past week. "Exactly as expected"
>>
>> However when I tried to create a manual restore point I received
>> this message "system restore is unable to create a restore point.
>> please restart the computer, and then run system restore again."
>> Restarting did not correct problem. Also no recent restore points
>> listed.
>> Further troubleshooting found that in the control
>> panel-system-system restore;
>>
>> drive old drive (F is listed as system drive and restore is ON
>>
>> drive new boot (C is listed as also having restore on but not
>> as system drive.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am now totally confused, not even sure which drive is booting
>> system. My desire is to use the new boot(C for everything and
>> totally ignore the old drive except maybe to store some old files
>> in.
>> Help is truly appreciated making new drive system drive and
>> reactivating the restore feature.
>>
>> Sorry for long post but its hard to explain in less.
>
> But you got a reply today at 1:52AM on your other post - and you have not
> responded to that.
>
> Unhook the old drive - does it boot?
> If so - change your system restore settings - turn off system restore,
> reboot, turn on system restore.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Thank you Stanley for the disconnect old drive and also - reboot - turn off
system restore idea, I will do that later today.
The only post I see that I did not reply too was from MAP and I may have to
resort to that but I have a weeks worth of new work files on new drive and
it would be a large hassle to find and move them reformat as WD tools
requires. I will reply to him after problem is resolved.
SG

shakey wrote:
> "Shenan Stanley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> shakey wrote:
>>> I am now lost! In a previous thread, now not being replied to any
>>> more, I said I had installed and cloned a new drive. see below:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "I just installed a larger drive and cloned old drive to it using
>>> their, WD, supplied software.
>>> Made the new drive the boot drive "C". All is fine but I have had
>>> two programs that required reregistering so far causing me to
>>> wonder if any XP-sp3 settings may have gotten changed that I should
>>> be aware of. SG"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I thought all was OK after reading replies but now a new problem has
>>> surfaced. I am no longer sure what drive is doing what!!
>>>
>>> INFO: After cloning I had to swap SATA-0 and SATA-1 plugs and then
>>> renamed in the directory tree the new drive to "new boot (C" and
>>> old to "old drive (F"
>>>
>>> Windows explorer shows all newer and revised files going into new C
>>> drive and no new files into F for past week. "Exactly as expected"
>>>
>>> However when I tried to create a manual restore point I received
>>> this message "system restore is unable to create a restore point.
>>> please restart the computer, and then run system restore again."
>>> Restarting did not correct problem. Also no recent restore points
>>> listed.
>>> Further troubleshooting found that in the control
>>> panel-system-system restore;
>>>
>>> drive old drive (F is listed as system drive and restore is ON
>>>
>>> drive new boot (C is listed as also having restore on but not
>>> as system drive.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am now totally confused, not even sure which drive is booting
>>> system. My desire is to use the new boot(C for everything and
>>> totally ignore the old drive except maybe to store some old files
>>> in.
>>> Help is truly appreciated making new drive system drive and
>>> reactivating the restore feature.
>>>
>>> Sorry for long post but its hard to explain in less.
>> But you got a reply today at 1:52AM on your other post - and you have not
>> responded to that.
>>
>> Unhook the old drive - does it boot?
>> If so - change your system restore settings - turn off system restore,
>> reboot, turn on system restore.
>>
>> --
>> Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>> --
>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> Thank you Stanley for the disconnect old drive and also - reboot - turn off
> system restore idea, I will do that later today.
> The only post I see that I did not reply too was from MAP and I may have to
> resort to that but I have a weeks worth of new work files on new drive and
> it would be a large hassle to find and move them reformat as WD tools
> requires. I will reply to him after problem is resolved.
> SG

If you're referring to 180searchassistant, that's malware and should be
removed. Whatever the name, of course it looks like a system file;
that's part of its scheme to stay intact on your system. If
Malwarebytes states it's malware, just delete it, or at least put it in
a virus vault (whatever it's called in MAM).

--
Joe =o)

"Elmo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> shakey wrote:
>> "Shenan Stanley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> shakey wrote:
>>>> I am now lost! In a previous thread, now not being replied to any
>>>> more, I said I had installed and cloned a new drive. see below:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "I just installed a larger drive and cloned old drive to it using
>>>> their, WD, supplied software.
>>>> Made the new drive the boot drive "C". All is fine but I have had
>>>> two programs that required reregistering so far causing me to
>>>> wonder if any XP-sp3 settings may have gotten changed that I should
>>>> be aware of. SG"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought all was OK after reading replies but now a new problem has
>>>> surfaced. I am no longer sure what drive is doing what!!
>>>>
>>>> INFO: After cloning I had to swap SATA-0 and SATA-1 plugs and then
>>>> renamed in the directory tree the new drive to "new boot (C" and
>>>> old to "old drive (F"
>>>>
>>>> Windows explorer shows all newer and revised files going into new C
>>>> drive and no new files into F for past week. "Exactly as expected"
>>>>
>>>> However when I tried to create a manual restore point I received
>>>> this message "system restore is unable to create a restore point.
>>>> please restart the computer, and then run system restore again."
>>>> Restarting did not correct problem. Also no recent restore points
>>>> listed.
>>>> Further troubleshooting found that in the control
>>>> panel-system-system restore;
>>>>
>>>> drive old drive (F is listed as system drive and restore is ON
>>>>
>>>> drive new boot (C is listed as also having restore on but not
>>>> as system drive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am now totally confused, not even sure which drive is booting
>>>> system. My desire is to use the new boot(C for everything and
>>>> totally ignore the old drive except maybe to store some old files
>>>> in.
>>>> Help is truly appreciated making new drive system drive and
>>>> reactivating the restore feature.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for long post but its hard to explain in less.
>>> But you got a reply today at 1:52AM on your other post - and you have
>>> not
>>> responded to that.
>>>
>>> Unhook the old drive - does it boot?
>>> If so - change your system restore settings - turn off system restore,
>>> reboot, turn on system restore.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shenan Stanley
>>> MS-MVP
>>> --
>>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>> Thank you Stanley for the disconnect old drive and also - reboot - turn
>> off
>> system restore idea, I will do that later today.
>> The only post I see that I did not reply too was from MAP and I may have
>> to
>> resort to that but I have a weeks worth of new work files on new drive
>> and
>> it would be a large hassle to find and move them reformat as WD tools
>> requires. I will reply to him after problem is resolved.
>> SG
>
> If you're referring to 180searchassistant, that's malware and should be
> removed. Whatever the name, of course it looks like a system file;
> that's part of its scheme to stay intact on your system. If
> Malwarebytes states it's malware, just delete it, or at least put it in
> a virus vault (whatever it's called in MAM).
>
> --
> Joe =o)
I believed you are confused Elmo. Your reply doesn't apply to this thread.

"Shenan Stanley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> shakey wrote:
>> I am now lost! In a previous thread, now not being replied to any
>> more, I said I had installed and cloned a new drive. see below:
>>
>>
>>
>> "I just installed a larger drive and cloned old drive to it using
>> their, WD, supplied software.
>> Made the new drive the boot drive "C". All is fine but I have had
>> two programs that required reregistering so far causing me to
>> wonder if any XP-sp3 settings may have gotten changed that I should
>> be aware of. SG"
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought all was OK after reading replies but now a new problem has
>> surfaced. I am no longer sure what drive is doing what!!
>>
>> INFO: After cloning I had to swap SATA-0 and SATA-1 plugs and then
>> renamed in the directory tree the new drive to "new boot (C" and
>> old to "old drive (F"
>>
>> Windows explorer shows all newer and revised files going into new C
>> drive and no new files into F for past week. "Exactly as expected"
>>
>> However when I tried to create a manual restore point I received
>> this message "system restore is unable to create a restore point.
>> please restart the computer, and then run system restore again."
>> Restarting did not correct problem. Also no recent restore points
>> listed.
>> Further troubleshooting found that in the control
>> panel-system-system restore;
>>
>> drive old drive (F is listed as system drive and restore is ON
>>
>> drive new boot (C is listed as also having restore on but not
>> as system drive.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am now totally confused, not even sure which drive is booting
>> system. My desire is to use the new boot(C for everything and
>> totally ignore the old drive except maybe to store some old files
>> in.
>> Help is truly appreciated making new drive system drive and
>> reactivating the restore feature.
>>
>> Sorry for long post but its hard to explain in less.
>
> But you got a reply today at 1:52AM on your other post - and you have not
> responded to that.
>
> Unhook the old drive - does it boot?
> If so - change your system restore settings - turn off system restore,
> reboot, turn on system restore.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP

Disconnected old drive and system booted normal after BIOS told me that
drive 2 was missing F1 to continue
Then ,as you suggested, went to system restore and it would not open which
it previously did.
RUN DLL
An exception occurred while trying to run
"C;\windows\system32\shell32.dll,control_rundll"
c:\windows\system32\sysdm.cpl",system

Next step please. I really do not want to run without system restore
feature.
Maybe reactivate old drive then cycle system restore on/off a few times? If
I can then call it up.
SG

shakey wrote:

> I believe you are confused Elmo. Your reply doesn't apply to this thread.

You're absolutely right. Thanks for alerting me to that.

--
Joe =o)

"shakey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I am now lost! In a previous thread, now not being replied to any more, I
>said I had installed and cloned a new drive. see below:
>
>
>
> "I just installed a larger drive and cloned old drive to it using their,
> WD,
> supplied software.
> Made the new drive the boot drive "C". All is fine but I have had two
> programs that required reregistering so far causing me to wonder if any
> XP-sp3 settings may have gotten changed that I should be aware of.
> SG"
>
>
>
> I thought all was OK after reading replies but now a new problem has
> surfaced. I am no longer sure what drive is doing what!!
>
> INFO: After cloning I had to swap SATA-0 and SATA-1 plugs and then renamed
> in the directory tree the new drive to "new boot (C" and old to "old
> drive (F"
>
> Windows explorer shows all newer and revised files going into new C drive
> and no new files into F for past week. "Exactly as expected"
>
> However when I tried to create a manual restore point I received this
> message "system restore is unable to create a restore point. please
> restart the computer, and then run system restore again." Restarting did
> not correct problem. Also no recent restore points listed.
>
> Further troubleshooting found that in the control panel-system-system
> restore;
>
> drive old drive (F is listed as system drive and restore is ON
>
> drive new boot (C is listed as also having restore on but not as
> system drive.
>
>
>
> I am now totally confused, not even sure which drive is booting system.
> My desire is to use the new boot(C for everything and totally ignore the
> old drive except maybe to store some old files in.
>
> Help is truly appreciated making new drive system drive and reactivating
> the restore feature.
>
> Sorry for long post but its hard to explain in less.
>
> SG
>
Thanks to all who tried to help. This is snowballing as I find other
functions that do not work since cloning using WD's tools such as the
installer for any program. restore, tax cut "Due unable to install updates"
and who knows what else.
I will start over using a old copy of ghost 9 "copy drive" to do clone when
I return in about 5 days.
Hopefully I will not have problems. My original drive is currently intact
and disconnected.
SG

Update, STILL need help.
XP-pro sp3, 3.2GHz processor, 3 GB mem. Dell 8400 system
Below is how things were before I had to leave for 5 days.
What I also know is that I now have new 320GB internal drive in MB SATA
plug 2, Old drive is still in plug 0. BIOS reports plug one not available
due to combination setup as it always was.The second drive has twice been
cloned to the first using WD Tools and also Ghost 9. System appears to be
operating normally with old drive as boot drive and new drive available for
storage.
However I cannot change the new drive to be the boot drive. If I physically
disconnect the old drive windows boots through the moving load indicator
then displays a screen with the MS logo and I have to pull power to escape
from this.
Help please starting with what determines which SATA drive is boot drive. I
cannot find a basic answer through Google.
Thank you and sorry for interrupted thread. Work had me on the road.
Mel

"Shenan Stanley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> shakey wrote:
>> I am now lost! In a previous thread, now not being replied to any
>> more, I said I had installed and cloned a new drive. see below:
>>
>>
>>
>> "I just installed a larger drive and cloned old drive to it using
>> their, WD, supplied software.
>> Made the new drive the boot drive "C". All is fine but I have had
>> two programs that required reregistering so far causing me to
>> wonder if any XP-sp3 settings may have gotten changed that I should
>> be aware of. SG"
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought all was OK after reading replies but now a new problem has
>> surfaced. I am no longer sure what drive is doing what!!
>>
>> INFO: After cloning I had to swap SATA-0 and SATA-1 plugs and then
>> renamed in the directory tree the new drive to "new boot (C" and
>> old to "old drive (F"
>>
>> Windows explorer shows all newer and revised files going into new C
>> drive and no new files into F for past week. "Exactly as expected"
>>
>> However when I tried to create a manual restore point I received
>> this message "system restore is unable to create a restore point.
>> please restart the computer, and then run system restore again."
>> Restarting did not correct problem. Also no recent restore points
>> listed.
>> Further troubleshooting found that in the control
>> panel-system-system restore;
>>
>> drive old drive (F is listed as system drive and restore is ON
>>
>> drive new boot (C is listed as also having restore on but not
>> as system drive.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am now totally confused, not even sure which drive is booting
>> system. My desire is to use the new boot(C for everything and
>> totally ignore the old drive except maybe to store some old files
>> in.
>> Help is truly appreciated making new drive system drive and
>> reactivating the restore feature.
>>
>> Sorry for long post but its hard to explain in less.
>
> But you got a reply today at 1:52AM on your other post - and you have not
> responded to that.
>
> Unhook the old drive - does it boot?
> If so - change your system restore settings - turn off system restore,
> reboot, turn on system restore.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>

Read this.
http://www.goodells.net/multiboot/partsigs.htm
Then do an fdisk /mbr as described in "Method #3"



"shakey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Update, STILL need help.
> XP-pro sp3, 3.2GHz processor, 3 GB mem. Dell 8400 system
> Below is how things were before I had to leave for 5 days.
> What I also know is that I now have new 320GB internal drive in MB SATA plug 2, Old drive is still in plug 0. BIOS reports plug
> one not available due to combination setup as it always was.The second drive has twice been cloned to the first using WD Tools and
> also Ghost 9. System appears to be operating normally with old drive as boot drive and new drive available for storage.
> However I cannot change the new drive to be the boot drive. If I physically disconnect the old drive windows boots through the
> moving load indicator then displays a screen with the MS logo and I have to pull power to escape from this.
> Help please starting with what determines which SATA drive is boot drive. I cannot find a basic answer through Google.
> Thank you and sorry for interrupted thread. Work had me on the road.
> Mel
>