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      5th May 2006
My company is updating a website and has stuck me with the job. I am a DB
guy, about HTML i know from nothing.

Reading here suggests that it would be a bad idea to use both Dreamweaver
and FP on the same website. We bought both because the boss wants moving
video and banners and feels FP can't do those.

So, if use both programs will one corrupt the files of the other?
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Murray
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      5th May 2006
> So, if use both programs will one corrupt the files of the other?

If the site uses FP Server extensions for anything, yes, but it doesn't
really corrupt files - it just breaks the connection between the file and
the Server Extensions, which does break the functionality.

Whichever way you go, though, PLEASE take the time to read about (and learn
some) HTML and CSS. It'll make your climb ever so much easier.

> video and banners and feels FP can't do those.


And yes, FP can do all of that.

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"Sailormike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:CCC698AD-D687-4CDD-BB06-(E-Mail Removed)...
> My company is updating a website and has stuck me with the job. I am a DB
> guy, about HTML i know from nothing.
>
> Reading here suggests that it would be a bad idea to use both Dreamweaver
> and FP on the same website. We bought both because the boss wants moving
> video and banners and feels FP can't do those.
>
> So, if use both programs will one corrupt the files of the other?
> --
> SailorMike



 
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Mark Fitzpatrick
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      5th May 2006
As Murray said, you can use both. Avoid the server extensions if possible.
Also, if your web server has the FP Sever Extensions installed you publish
through DreamWeaver you need to make sure that you cloak any of the _vti
directories that appear in the web. Cloaking them will prevent DreameWeaver
from trying to publish those files to the server. It often avoids a lot of
issues though if you publish through FrontPage if your server has the FP
Server Extensions enabled.

As far as animation and video, both programs can add them into a web page
without problem. What your boss may have missed is the fact that neither of
these tools can actually create a moving video. For that you'll need
something such as Macromedia Flash to create a Flash animation. Both FP and
DreamWeaver can easily insert the resultant animation into the page.

Hope this helps,
Mark Fitzpatrick
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage


"Sailormike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> My company is updating a website and has stuck me with the job. I am a DB
> guy, about HTML i know from nothing.
>
> Reading here suggests that it would be a bad idea to use both Dreamweaver
> and FP on the same website. We bought both because the boss wants moving
> video and banners and feels FP can't do those.
>
> So, if use both programs will one corrupt the files of the other?
> --
> SailorMike



 
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Murray
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      5th May 2006
Wow - is that all one needs to do? Are you sure? Are you sure you're sure?
8)

> Cloaking them will prevent DreameWeaver [sic]
> from trying to publish those files to the server.


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"Mark Fitzpatrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> As Murray said, you can use both. Avoid the server extensions if possible.
> Also, if your web server has the FP Sever Extensions installed you publish
> through DreamWeaver you need to make sure that you cloak any of the _vti
> directories that appear in the web. Cloaking them will prevent
> DreameWeaver from trying to publish those files to the server. It often
> avoids a lot of issues though if you publish through FrontPage if your
> server has the FP Server Extensions enabled.
>
> As far as animation and video, both programs can add them into a web page
> without problem. What your boss may have missed is the fact that neither
> of these tools can actually create a moving video. For that you'll need
> something such as Macromedia Flash to create a Flash animation. Both FP
> and DreamWeaver can easily insert the resultant animation into the page.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Mark Fitzpatrick
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>
>
> "Sailormike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:CCC698AD-D687-4CDD-BB06-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> My company is updating a website and has stuck me with the job. I am a DB
>> guy, about HTML i know from nothing.
>>
>> Reading here suggests that it would be a bad idea to use both Dreamweaver
>> and FP on the same website. We bought both because the boss wants moving
>> video and banners and feels FP can't do those.
>>
>> So, if use both programs will one corrupt the files of the other?
>> --
>> SailorMike

>
>



 
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      5th May 2006
Thanks 2 to u both.

Yes, Mark home grown movies are what she wants. She imagines that because i
know a little (very little) Access and created an application i can do a
website in my sleep. So she got the whole DW, Flash, Fireworks, etc. package.
I told her I would have to learn a whole different language but she still
thinks this is no big deal and I'll have cars racing across the screen by
noon next. Sure I will!

By extensions u mean the DOS extension on the file name? I checked and yes
the server supports FP extensions. It will also support accessing the tables
in my application. Once i figure out how to do that.

So, u guys r telling me i can do all this -- if and when I learn how, right?
And other than making movies it really doesn't matter much which program i
use?
--
SailorMike


"Mark Fitzpatrick" wrote:

> As Murray said, you can use both. Avoid the server extensions if possible.
> Also, if your web server has the FP Sever Extensions installed you publish
> through DreamWeaver you need to make sure that you cloak any of the _vti
> directories that appear in the web. Cloaking them will prevent DreameWeaver
> from trying to publish those files to the server. It often avoids a lot of
> issues though if you publish through FrontPage if your server has the FP
> Server Extensions enabled.
>
> As far as animation and video, both programs can add them into a web page
> without problem. What your boss may have missed is the fact that neither of
> these tools can actually create a moving video. For that you'll need
> something such as Macromedia Flash to create a Flash animation. Both FP and
> DreamWeaver can easily insert the resultant animation into the page.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Mark Fitzpatrick
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>
>
> "Sailormike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:CCC698AD-D687-4CDD-BB06-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > My company is updating a website and has stuck me with the job. I am a DB
> > guy, about HTML i know from nothing.
> >
> > Reading here suggests that it would be a bad idea to use both Dreamweaver
> > and FP on the same website. We bought both because the boss wants moving
> > video and banners and feels FP can't do those.
> >
> > So, if use both programs will one corrupt the files of the other?
> > --
> > SailorMike

>
>
>

 
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John Malone
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      5th May 2006
This is a list of all 14 courses for FrontPage.....
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...832701033.aspx
FREE!

You need to learn some HTML & CSS "No matter what you use"!
You can pick up the basics of FrontPage in a few days if you are a quick
learner.

HTH
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"Sailormike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:7849F857-9C27-4B75-A930-(E-Mail Removed)...
| Thanks 2 to u both.
|
| Yes, Mark home grown movies are what she wants. She imagines that because
i
| know a little (very little) Access and created an application i can do a
| website in my sleep. So she got the whole DW, Flash, Fireworks, etc.
package.
| I told her I would have to learn a whole different language but she still
| thinks this is no big deal and I'll have cars racing across the screen by
| noon next. Sure I will!
|
| By extensions u mean the DOS extension on the file name? I checked and yes
| the server supports FP extensions. It will also support accessing the
tables
| in my application. Once i figure out how to do that.
|
| So, u guys r telling me i can do all this -- if and when I learn how,
right?
| And other than making movies it really doesn't matter much which program i
| use?
| --
| SailorMike
|
|
| "Mark Fitzpatrick" wrote:
|
| > As Murray said, you can use both. Avoid the server extensions if
possible.
| > Also, if your web server has the FP Sever Extensions installed you
publish
| > through DreamWeaver you need to make sure that you cloak any of the _vti
| > directories that appear in the web. Cloaking them will prevent
DreameWeaver
| > from trying to publish those files to the server. It often avoids a lot
of
| > issues though if you publish through FrontPage if your server has the FP
| > Server Extensions enabled.
| >
| > As far as animation and video, both programs can add them into a web
page
| > without problem. What your boss may have missed is the fact that neither
of
| > these tools can actually create a moving video. For that you'll need
| > something such as Macromedia Flash to create a Flash animation. Both FP
and
| > DreamWeaver can easily insert the resultant animation into the page.
| >
| > Hope this helps,
| > Mark Fitzpatrick
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >
| >
| > "Sailormike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| > news:CCC698AD-D687-4CDD-BB06-(E-Mail Removed)...
| > > My company is updating a website and has stuck me with the job. I am a
DB
| > > guy, about HTML i know from nothing.
| > >
| > > Reading here suggests that it would be a bad idea to use both
Dreamweaver
| > > and FP on the same website. We bought both because the boss wants
moving
| > > video and banners and feels FP can't do those.
| > >
| > > So, if use both programs will one corrupt the files of the other?
| > > --
| > > SailorMike
| >
| >
| >


 
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ANONYMOUS
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      5th May 2006
If you want a quick tutorial in Dreamweaver then try this link:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamwea...g_started.html

In particular this is a better tutorial:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamwea...bsite_pt1.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamwea...bsite_pt2.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamwea...bsite_pt3.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamwea...bsite_pt4.html

hth


Sailormike wrote:
>
> Thanks 2 to u both.
>
> Yes, Mark home grown movies are what she wants. She imagines that because i
> know a little (very little) Access and created an application i can do a
> website in my sleep. So she got the whole DW, Flash, Fireworks, etc. package.
> I told her I would have to learn a whole different language but she still
> thinks this is no big deal and I'll have cars racing across the screen by
> noon next. Sure I will!
>
> By extensions u mean the DOS extension on the file name? I checked and yes
> the server supports FP extensions. It will also support accessing the tables
> in my application. Once i figure out how to do that.
>
> So, u guys r telling me i can do all this -- if and when I learn how, right?
> And other than making movies it really doesn't matter much which program i
> use?
> --
> SailorMike
>
> "Mark Fitzpatrick" wrote:
>
> > As Murray said, you can use both. Avoid the server extensions if possible.
> > Also, if your web server has the FP Sever Extensions installed you publish
> > through DreamWeaver you need to make sure that you cloak any of the _vti
> > directories that appear in the web. Cloaking them will prevent DreameWeaver
> > from trying to publish those files to the server. It often avoids a lot of
> > issues though if you publish through FrontPage if your server has the FP
> > Server Extensions enabled.
> >
> > As far as animation and video, both programs can add them into a web page
> > without problem. What your boss may have missed is the fact that neither of
> > these tools can actually create a moving video. For that you'll need
> > something such as Macromedia Flash to create a Flash animation. Both FP and
> > DreamWeaver can easily insert the resultant animation into the page.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Mark Fitzpatrick
> > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> >
> >
> > "Sailormike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:CCC698AD-D687-4CDD-BB06-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > My company is updating a website and has stuck me with the job. I am a DB
> > > guy, about HTML i know from nothing.
> > >
> > > Reading here suggests that it would be a bad idea to use both Dreamweaver
> > > and FP on the same website. We bought both because the boss wants moving
> > > video and banners and feels FP can't do those.
> > >
> > > So, if use both programs will one corrupt the files of the other?
> > > --
> > > SailorMike

> >
> >
> >

 
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Andrew Murray
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      6th May 2006
What do you mean by "FP can't "do" those - if you mean create them, then yes
it can't "do" that.
But you can insert animation and videos into Frontpage-created webpages.


"Sailormike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> My company is updating a website and has stuck me with the job. I am a DB
> guy, about HTML i know from nothing.
>
> Reading here suggests that it would be a bad idea to use both Dreamweaver
> and FP on the same website. We bought both because the boss wants moving
> video and banners and feels FP can't do those.
>
> So, if use both programs will one corrupt the files of the other?
> --
> SailorMike



 
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Cowboy \(Gregory A. Beamer\)
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      6th May 2006
Editing with both is fine. Just refresh FrontPage before you deploy.
Deploying from both is okay, as long as you are not using the FP extension
bits (site map, shared borders, web bots, etc.), as DW

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"Sailormike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:CCC698AD-D687-4CDD-BB06-(E-Mail Removed)...
> My company is updating a website and has stuck me with the job. I am a DB
> guy, about HTML i know from nothing.
>
> Reading here suggests that it would be a bad idea to use both Dreamweaver
> and FP on the same website. We bought both because the boss wants moving
> video and banners and feels FP can't do those.
>
> So, if use both programs will one corrupt the files of the other?
> --
> SailorMike



 
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Murray
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      6th May 2006
> By extensions u mean the DOS extension on the file name? I checked and yes
> the server supports FP extensions. It will also support accessing the
> tables
> in my application. Once i figure out how to do that.


No. By FP Server extensions we mean the programs that reside on the server
and mediate some of the special functions you can use in FP, like form
processing, and guestbooks, and other stuff. Using DW to upload files (with
FTP, naturally) to a FP site that uses FPSEs (server extensions) will break
that SE functionality (except for Mark Fitzpatrick's excellent suggestion
which I haven't verified).

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"Sailormike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:7849F857-9C27-4B75-A930-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks 2 to u both.
>
> Yes, Mark home grown movies are what she wants. She imagines that because
> i
> know a little (very little) Access and created an application i can do a
> website in my sleep. So she got the whole DW, Flash, Fireworks, etc.
> package.
> I told her I would have to learn a whole different language but she still
> thinks this is no big deal and I'll have cars racing across the screen by
> noon next. Sure I will!
>
> By extensions u mean the DOS extension on the file name? I checked and yes
> the server supports FP extensions. It will also support accessing the
> tables
> in my application. Once i figure out how to do that.
>
> So, u guys r telling me i can do all this -- if and when I learn how,
> right?
> And other than making movies it really doesn't matter much which program i
> use?
> --
> SailorMike
>
>
> "Mark Fitzpatrick" wrote:
>
>> As Murray said, you can use both. Avoid the server extensions if
>> possible.
>> Also, if your web server has the FP Sever Extensions installed you
>> publish
>> through DreamWeaver you need to make sure that you cloak any of the _vti
>> directories that appear in the web. Cloaking them will prevent
>> DreameWeaver
>> from trying to publish those files to the server. It often avoids a lot
>> of
>> issues though if you publish through FrontPage if your server has the FP
>> Server Extensions enabled.
>>
>> As far as animation and video, both programs can add them into a web
>> page
>> without problem. What your boss may have missed is the fact that neither
>> of
>> these tools can actually create a moving video. For that you'll need
>> something such as Macromedia Flash to create a Flash animation. Both FP
>> and
>> DreamWeaver can easily insert the resultant animation into the page.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Mark Fitzpatrick
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>
>>
>> "Sailormike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:CCC698AD-D687-4CDD-BB06-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > My company is updating a website and has stuck me with the job. I am a
>> > DB
>> > guy, about HTML i know from nothing.
>> >
>> > Reading here suggests that it would be a bad idea to use both
>> > Dreamweaver
>> > and FP on the same website. We bought both because the boss wants
>> > moving
>> > video and banners and feels FP can't do those.
>> >
>> > So, if use both programs will one corrupt the files of the other?
>> > --
>> > SailorMike

>>
>>
>>



 
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