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Dianah
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      26th Apr 2004
Ok ... I'm having too much trouble with this.

I've drawn an image (and can resize to any size - using pixel units in the
graphic's software). I've
tried to make it the same size as the table cell width and heighth to use it
as a background.

So far, I've had to make it double the pixel width and height to get close
to the cell size.

Can anyone help? I can't believe this is such a guessing game.
Thanks in advance. Diana



 
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Stefan B Rusynko
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      26th Apr 2004
See response in your duplicate post

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"Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| Ok ... I'm having too much trouble with this.
|
| I've drawn an image (and can resize to any size - using pixel units in the
| graphic's software). I've
| tried to make it the same size as the table cell width and heighth to use it
| as a background.
|
| So far, I've had to make it double the pixel width and height to get close
| to the cell size.
|
| Can anyone help? I can't believe this is such a guessing game.
| Thanks in advance. Diana
|
|
|


 
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Dianah
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      26th Apr 2004
Sorry Stefan, I deleted the other post from my listing. It was so badly
written (I was in a bit of a "state") - and contained so many redundancies I
couldn't believe I wrote it.

Would you mind doing a copy/paste so that I can read it.

I didn't mean to duplicate the post for the sake of putting it up there
twice! I just wanted to simplify my request so that others could actually
understand it. Even I found it confusing when I re-read it later. My
apologies. Diana

"Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
See response in your duplicate post

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
_____________________________________________


"Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| Ok ... I'm having too much trouble with this.
|
| I've drawn an image (and can resize to any size - using pixel units in the
| graphic's software). I've
| tried to make it the same size as the table cell width and heighth to use
it
| as a background.
|
| So far, I've had to make it double the pixel width and height to get close
| to the cell size.
|
| Can anyone help? I can't believe this is such a guessing game.
| Thanks in advance. Diana
|
|
|



 
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Stefan B Rusynko
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      26th Apr 2004
If you are applying an image as a cell background
(set it to a fixed px size in your image editor, not a html viewing size in FP)
Make the cell size 2 px less than the height and width of the image size
- set table cellspacing and cellpadding to 0


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To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
_____________________________________________


"Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| Sorry Stefan, I deleted the other post from my listing. It was so badly
| written (I was in a bit of a "state") - and contained so many redundancies I
| couldn't believe I wrote it.
|
| Would you mind doing a copy/paste so that I can read it.
|
| I didn't mean to duplicate the post for the sake of putting it up there
| twice! I just wanted to simplify my request so that others could actually
| understand it. Even I found it confusing when I re-read it later. My
| apologies. Diana
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| See response in your duplicate post
|
| --
|
| _____________________________________________
| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| _____________________________________________
|
|
| "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| | Ok ... I'm having too much trouble with this.
| |
| | I've drawn an image (and can resize to any size - using pixel units in the
| | graphic's software). I've
| | tried to make it the same size as the table cell width and heighth to use
| it
| | as a background.
| |
| | So far, I've had to make it double the pixel width and height to get close
| | to the cell size.
| |
| | Can anyone help? I can't believe this is such a guessing game.
| | Thanks in advance. Diana
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|


 
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Dianah
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      26th Apr 2004
Stefan,
The cell width (in FP2003) is reported as 128 px (width) by 30 px high, but
in the graphics software, I've had to draw the image to be 258 px by 58. I
do have a bit of border spacing ... 3 px all around, but this isn't enough
to require the drawing to be doubled when I draw it (using CorelDraw). This
doesn't make sense to me.

For hours, I kept making refinements. I've achieved an acceptable
compromise, but I'd sure like to know how to do it right. I checked and do
have cell padding and spacing set to 4 and 2 (respectively).
Diana

"Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
If you are applying an image as a cell background
(set it to a fixed px size in your image editor, not a html viewing size in
FP)
Make the cell size 2 px less than the height and width of the image size
- set table cellspacing and cellpadding to 0


--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
_____________________________________________


"Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| Sorry Stefan, I deleted the other post from my listing. It was so badly
| written (I was in a bit of a "state") - and contained so many redundancies
I
| couldn't believe I wrote it.
|
| Would you mind doing a copy/paste so that I can read it.
|
| I didn't mean to duplicate the post for the sake of putting it up there
| twice! I just wanted to simplify my request so that others could actually
| understand it. Even I found it confusing when I re-read it later. My
| apologies. Diana
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| See response in your duplicate post
|
| --
|
| _____________________________________________
| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| _____________________________________________
|
|
| "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| | Ok ... I'm having too much trouble with this.
| |
| | I've drawn an image (and can resize to any size - using pixel units in
the
| | graphic's software). I've
| | tried to make it the same size as the table cell width and heighth to
use
| it
| | as a background.
| |
| | So far, I've had to make it double the pixel width and height to get
close
| | to the cell size.
| |
| | Can anyone help? I can't believe this is such a guessing game.
| | Thanks in advance. Diana
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|



 
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Stefan B Rusynko
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      26th Apr 2004
If your image size in PX is 258x58px the cell must be 256x54px for the full image to be in a cell background and your table
cellspacing=0 and cellpadding=0
- There is no way a 258x58 image will tile in a 128 px (width) by 30 px cell

If you are applying it as a table background image (not supported by all browsers), then your table must be 256x54px and your table
cellspacing=0, cellpadding=0, border=0. Plus all your cells should have a transparent .gif as a cell background (to prevent some
browsers from tiling the table background in all cells)

If you have published the page w/ the table provide a link

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
_____________________________________________


"Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| Stefan,
| The cell width (in FP2003) is reported as 128 px (width) by 30 px high, but
| in the graphics software, I've had to draw the image to be 258 px by 58. I
| do have a bit of border spacing ... 3 px all around, but this isn't enough
| to require the drawing to be doubled when I draw it (using CorelDraw). This
| doesn't make sense to me.
|
| For hours, I kept making refinements. I've achieved an acceptable
| compromise, but I'd sure like to know how to do it right. I checked and do
| have cell padding and spacing set to 4 and 2 (respectively).
| Diana
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
| If you are applying an image as a cell background
| (set it to a fixed px size in your image editor, not a html viewing size in
| FP)
| Make the cell size 2 px less than the height and width of the image size
| - set table cellspacing and cellpadding to 0
|
|
| --
|
| _____________________________________________
| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| _____________________________________________
|
|
| "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| | Sorry Stefan, I deleted the other post from my listing. It was so badly
| | written (I was in a bit of a "state") - and contained so many redundancies
| I
| | couldn't believe I wrote it.
| |
| | Would you mind doing a copy/paste so that I can read it.
| |
| | I didn't mean to duplicate the post for the sake of putting it up there
| | twice! I just wanted to simplify my request so that others could actually
| | understand it. Even I found it confusing when I re-read it later. My
| | apologies. Diana
| |
| | "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| | See response in your duplicate post
| |
| | --
| |
| | _____________________________________________
| | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| | _____________________________________________
| |
| |
| | "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| | | Ok ... I'm having too much trouble with this.
| | |
| | | I've drawn an image (and can resize to any size - using pixel units in
| the
| | | graphic's software). I've
| | | tried to make it the same size as the table cell width and heighth to
| use
| | it
| | | as a background.
| | |
| | | So far, I've had to make it double the pixel width and height to get
| close
| | | to the cell size.
| | |
| | | Can anyone help? I can't believe this is such a guessing game.
| | | Thanks in advance. Diana
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|


 
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Dianah
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      26th Apr 2004
Stefan
www.womensconference.org
It's the nav bar down the left that I was working on. I kinda sorta got it
to work, but it's still not a perfect fit.

The pixel size of the table width and image width don't gel - not in my
mind.

I was indeed using the small image as a background for each cell (to create
my own look-alike buttons for the nav bar - in a single-column table).
Until I learn another way to do this, this is what I'm doing.

I can't find where FrontPage will let me use my own buttons, so I decided to
work-around it by added my own drawings as the background - to look like
buttons (probably not the best way, but I can't say that I'm crazy about all
the buttons that FrontPage comes with - can't make them wide enough for some
purposes). They look ok, but they also take up a lot of memory and add way
toooooo many files to the directory - rather hideous.

Thanks for your thoughts. Diana

"Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> If your image size in PX is 258x58px the cell must be 256x54px for the

full image to be in a cell background and your table
> cellspacing=0 and cellpadding=0
> - There is no way a 258x58 image will tile in a 128 px (width) by 30 px

cell
>
> If you are applying it as a table background image (not supported by all

browsers), then your table must be 256x54px and your table
> cellspacing=0, cellpadding=0, border=0. Plus all your cells should have a

transparent .gif as a cell background (to prevent some
> browsers from tiling the table background in all cells)
>
> If you have published the page w/ the table provide a link
>
> --
>
> _____________________________________________
> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> _____________________________________________
>
>
> "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> | Stefan,
> | The cell width (in FP2003) is reported as 128 px (width) by 30 px high,

but
> | in the graphics software, I've had to draw the image to be 258 px by 58.

I
> | do have a bit of border spacing ... 3 px all around, but this isn't

enough
> | to require the drawing to be doubled when I draw it (using CorelDraw).

This
> | doesn't make sense to me.
> |
> | For hours, I kept making refinements. I've achieved an acceptable
> | compromise, but I'd sure like to know how to do it right. I checked and

do
> | have cell padding and spacing set to 4 and 2 (respectively).
> | Diana
> |
> | "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> | If you are applying an image as a cell background
> | (set it to a fixed px size in your image editor, not a html viewing size

in
> | FP)
> | Make the cell size 2 px less than the height and width of the image size
> | - set table cellspacing and cellpadding to 0
> |
> |
> | --
> |
> | _____________________________________________
> | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> | _____________________________________________
> |
> |
> | "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> | | Sorry Stefan, I deleted the other post from my listing. It was so

badly
> | | written (I was in a bit of a "state") - and contained so many

redundancies
> | I
> | | couldn't believe I wrote it.
> | |
> | | Would you mind doing a copy/paste so that I can read it.
> | |
> | | I didn't mean to duplicate the post for the sake of putting it up

there
> | | twice! I just wanted to simplify my request so that others could

actually
> | | understand it. Even I found it confusing when I re-read it later. My
> | | apologies. Diana
> | |
> | | "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> | | See response in your duplicate post
> | |
> | | --
> | |
> | | _____________________________________________
> | | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> | | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> | | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> | | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> | | _____________________________________________
> | |
> | |
> | | "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> | | | Ok ... I'm having too much trouble with this.
> | | |
> | | | I've drawn an image (and can resize to any size - using pixel units

in
> | the
> | | | graphic's software). I've
> | | | tried to make it the same size as the table cell width and heighth

to
> | use
> | | it
> | | | as a background.
> | | |
> | | | So far, I've had to make it double the pixel width and height to get
> | close
> | | | to the cell size.
> | | |
> | | | Can anyone help? I can't believe this is such a guessing game.
> | | | Thanks in advance. Diana
> | | |
> | | |
> | | |
> | |
> | |
> | |
> |
> |
> |
>
>



 
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Thomas A. Rowe
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      26th Apr 2004
Another option would be to just use you images as buttons (with the text already placed on each in
your graphics application), then just insert and stack the buttons into a table with the number of
rows needed.

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"Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:eN8%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Stefan
> www.womensconference.org
> It's the nav bar down the left that I was working on. I kinda sorta got it
> to work, but it's still not a perfect fit.
>
> The pixel size of the table width and image width don't gel - not in my
> mind.
>
> I was indeed using the small image as a background for each cell (to create
> my own look-alike buttons for the nav bar - in a single-column table).
> Until I learn another way to do this, this is what I'm doing.
>
> I can't find where FrontPage will let me use my own buttons, so I decided to
> work-around it by added my own drawings as the background - to look like
> buttons (probably not the best way, but I can't say that I'm crazy about all
> the buttons that FrontPage comes with - can't make them wide enough for some
> purposes). They look ok, but they also take up a lot of memory and add way
> toooooo many files to the directory - rather hideous.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. Diana
>
> "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > If your image size in PX is 258x58px the cell must be 256x54px for the

> full image to be in a cell background and your table
> > cellspacing=0 and cellpadding=0
> > - There is no way a 258x58 image will tile in a 128 px (width) by 30 px

> cell
> >
> > If you are applying it as a table background image (not supported by all

> browsers), then your table must be 256x54px and your table
> > cellspacing=0, cellpadding=0, border=0. Plus all your cells should have a

> transparent .gif as a cell background (to prevent some
> > browsers from tiling the table background in all cells)
> >
> > If you have published the page w/ the table provide a link
> >
> > --
> >
> > _____________________________________________
> > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > _____________________________________________
> >
> >
> > "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > | Stefan,
> > | The cell width (in FP2003) is reported as 128 px (width) by 30 px high,

> but
> > | in the graphics software, I've had to draw the image to be 258 px by 58.

> I
> > | do have a bit of border spacing ... 3 px all around, but this isn't

> enough
> > | to require the drawing to be doubled when I draw it (using CorelDraw).

> This
> > | doesn't make sense to me.
> > |
> > | For hours, I kept making refinements. I've achieved an acceptable
> > | compromise, but I'd sure like to know how to do it right. I checked and

> do
> > | have cell padding and spacing set to 4 and 2 (respectively).
> > | Diana
> > |
> > | "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > | news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > | If you are applying an image as a cell background
> > | (set it to a fixed px size in your image editor, not a html viewing size

> in
> > | FP)
> > | Make the cell size 2 px less than the height and width of the image size
> > | - set table cellspacing and cellpadding to 0
> > |
> > |
> > | --
> > |
> > | _____________________________________________
> > | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > | _____________________________________________
> > |
> > |
> > | "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > | | Sorry Stefan, I deleted the other post from my listing. It was so

> badly
> > | | written (I was in a bit of a "state") - and contained so many

> redundancies
> > | I
> > | | couldn't believe I wrote it.
> > | |
> > | | Would you mind doing a copy/paste so that I can read it.
> > | |
> > | | I didn't mean to duplicate the post for the sake of putting it up

> there
> > | | twice! I just wanted to simplify my request so that others could

> actually
> > | | understand it. Even I found it confusing when I re-read it later. My
> > | | apologies. Diana
> > | |
> > | | "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > | | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > | | See response in your duplicate post
> > | |
> > | | --
> > | |
> > | | _____________________________________________
> > | | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > | | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > | | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > | | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > | | _____________________________________________
> > | |
> > | |
> > | | "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > | | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > | | | Ok ... I'm having too much trouble with this.
> > | | |
> > | | | I've drawn an image (and can resize to any size - using pixel units

> in
> > | the
> > | | | graphic's software). I've
> > | | | tried to make it the same size as the table cell width and heighth

> to
> > | use
> > | | it
> > | | | as a background.
> > | | |
> > | | | So far, I've had to make it double the pixel width and height to get
> > | close
> > | | | to the cell size.
> > | | |
> > | | | Can anyone help? I can't believe this is such a guessing game.
> > | | | Thanks in advance. Diana
> > | | |
> > | | |
> > | | |
> > | |
> > | |
> > | |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Dianah
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      26th Apr 2004
Thomas,
I certainly considered doing that and have done it - but Frontpage doesn't
allow me to add text (on top of the image). When I export the text (with
the button) the text splotchy - not very clear. I consider that it might be
a problem with the anti-aliasining of the text. If I end up having to
resize the button at all, the text becomes even worse looking.

Any thoughts on that.

I'll submit a to the CorelDraw newsgroup ... it might be a minor tweak to
make the above work better - perhaps I should even convert the text to
curves first. I can't remember if I've done that before for this purpose.

Thanks. Diana.

"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> Another option would be to just use you images as buttons (with the text

already placed on each in
> your graphics application), then just insert and stack the buttons into a

table with the number of
> rows needed.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
> http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> ==============================================
> To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
>
> "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

news:eN8%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Stefan
> > www.womensconference.org
> > It's the nav bar down the left that I was working on. I kinda sorta got

it
> > to work, but it's still not a perfect fit.
> >
> > The pixel size of the table width and image width don't gel - not in my
> > mind.
> >
> > I was indeed using the small image as a background for each cell (to

create
> > my own look-alike buttons for the nav bar - in a single-column table).
> > Until I learn another way to do this, this is what I'm doing.
> >
> > I can't find where FrontPage will let me use my own buttons, so I

decided to
> > work-around it by added my own drawings as the background - to look like
> > buttons (probably not the best way, but I can't say that I'm crazy about

all
> > the buttons that FrontPage comes with - can't make them wide enough for

some
> > purposes). They look ok, but they also take up a lot of memory and add

way
> > toooooo many files to the directory - rather hideous.
> >
> > Thanks for your thoughts. Diana
> >
> > "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > If your image size in PX is 258x58px the cell must be 256x54px for the

> > full image to be in a cell background and your table
> > > cellspacing=0 and cellpadding=0
> > > - There is no way a 258x58 image will tile in a 128 px (width) by 30

px
> > cell
> > >
> > > If you are applying it as a table background image (not supported by

all
> > browsers), then your table must be 256x54px and your table
> > > cellspacing=0, cellpadding=0, border=0. Plus all your cells should

have a
> > transparent .gif as a cell background (to prevent some
> > > browsers from tiling the table background in all cells)
> > >
> > > If you have published the page w/ the table provide a link
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > _____________________________________________
> > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > _____________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > | Stefan,
> > > | The cell width (in FP2003) is reported as 128 px (width) by 30 px

high,
> > but
> > > | in the graphics software, I've had to draw the image to be 258 px by

58.
> > I
> > > | do have a bit of border spacing ... 3 px all around, but this isn't

> > enough
> > > | to require the drawing to be doubled when I draw it (using

CorelDraw).
> > This
> > > | doesn't make sense to me.
> > > |
> > > | For hours, I kept making refinements. I've achieved an acceptable
> > > | compromise, but I'd sure like to know how to do it right. I checked

and
> > do
> > > | have cell padding and spacing set to 4 and 2 (respectively).
> > > | Diana
> > > |
> > > | "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > | news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > | If you are applying an image as a cell background
> > > | (set it to a fixed px size in your image editor, not a html viewing

size
> > in
> > > | FP)
> > > | Make the cell size 2 px less than the height and width of the image

size
> > > | - set table cellspacing and cellpadding to 0
> > > |
> > > |
> > > | --
> > > |
> > > | _____________________________________________
> > > | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > > | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > > | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > > | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > | _____________________________________________
> > > |
> > > |
> > > | "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > | | Sorry Stefan, I deleted the other post from my listing. It was so

> > badly
> > > | | written (I was in a bit of a "state") - and contained so many

> > redundancies
> > > | I
> > > | | couldn't believe I wrote it.
> > > | |
> > > | | Would you mind doing a copy/paste so that I can read it.
> > > | |
> > > | | I didn't mean to duplicate the post for the sake of putting it up

> > there
> > > | | twice! I just wanted to simplify my request so that others could

> > actually
> > > | | understand it. Even I found it confusing when I re-read it later.

My
> > > | | apologies. Diana
> > > | |
> > > | | "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > | | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > | | See response in your duplicate post
> > > | |
> > > | | --
> > > | |
> > > | | _____________________________________________
> > > | | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > > | | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > > | | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > > | | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > | | _____________________________________________
> > > | |
> > > | |
> > > | | "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > | | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > | | | Ok ... I'm having too much trouble with this.
> > > | | |
> > > | | | I've drawn an image (and can resize to any size - using pixel

units
> > in
> > > | the
> > > | | | graphic's software). I've
> > > | | | tried to make it the same size as the table cell width and

heighth
> > to
> > > | use
> > > | | it
> > > | | | as a background.
> > > | | |
> > > | | | So far, I've had to make it double the pixel width and height to

get
> > > | close
> > > | | | to the cell size.
> > > | | |
> > > | | | Can anyone help? I can't believe this is such a guessing game.
> > > | | | Thanks in advance. Diana
> > > | | |
> > > | | |
> > > | | |
> > > | |
> > > | |
> > > | |
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
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Thomas A. Rowe
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Personally I found CorelDraw (I was using ver 6 at the time) not to be good choice for creating web
graphics. I currently use MS Image Composer (no longer available) for all of my graphic/image work
for the web.

If you need to resize your graphics / images you should always do this outside of FP in a graphics /
image application where you have more control over the quality.

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"Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%23%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thomas,
> I certainly considered doing that and have done it - but Frontpage doesn't
> allow me to add text (on top of the image). When I export the text (with
> the button) the text splotchy - not very clear. I consider that it might be
> a problem with the anti-aliasining of the text. If I end up having to
> resize the button at all, the text becomes even worse looking.
>
> Any thoughts on that.
>
> I'll submit a to the CorelDraw newsgroup ... it might be a minor tweak to
> make the above work better - perhaps I should even convert the text to
> curves first. I can't remember if I've done that before for this purpose.
>
> Thanks. Diana.
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Another option would be to just use you images as buttons (with the text

> already placed on each in
> > your graphics application), then just insert and stack the buttons into a

> table with the number of
> > rows needed.
> >
> > --
> > ==============================================
> > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
> > http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> > ==============================================
> > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
> > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> >
> > "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> news:eN8%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Stefan
> > > www.womensconference.org
> > > It's the nav bar down the left that I was working on. I kinda sorta got

> it
> > > to work, but it's still not a perfect fit.
> > >
> > > The pixel size of the table width and image width don't gel - not in my
> > > mind.
> > >
> > > I was indeed using the small image as a background for each cell (to

> create
> > > my own look-alike buttons for the nav bar - in a single-column table).
> > > Until I learn another way to do this, this is what I'm doing.
> > >
> > > I can't find where FrontPage will let me use my own buttons, so I

> decided to
> > > work-around it by added my own drawings as the background - to look like
> > > buttons (probably not the best way, but I can't say that I'm crazy about

> all
> > > the buttons that FrontPage comes with - can't make them wide enough for

> some
> > > purposes). They look ok, but they also take up a lot of memory and add

> way
> > > toooooo many files to the directory - rather hideous.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your thoughts. Diana
> > >
> > > "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > If your image size in PX is 258x58px the cell must be 256x54px for the
> > > full image to be in a cell background and your table
> > > > cellspacing=0 and cellpadding=0
> > > > - There is no way a 258x58 image will tile in a 128 px (width) by 30

> px
> > > cell
> > > >
> > > > If you are applying it as a table background image (not supported by

> all
> > > browsers), then your table must be 256x54px and your table
> > > > cellspacing=0, cellpadding=0, border=0. Plus all your cells should

> have a
> > > transparent .gif as a cell background (to prevent some
> > > > browsers from tiling the table background in all cells)
> > > >
> > > > If you have published the page w/ the table provide a link
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > _____________________________________________
> > > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > _____________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > | Stefan,
> > > > | The cell width (in FP2003) is reported as 128 px (width) by 30 px

> high,
> > > but
> > > > | in the graphics software, I've had to draw the image to be 258 px by

> 58.
> > > I
> > > > | do have a bit of border spacing ... 3 px all around, but this isn't
> > > enough
> > > > | to require the drawing to be doubled when I draw it (using

> CorelDraw).
> > > This
> > > > | doesn't make sense to me.
> > > > |
> > > > | For hours, I kept making refinements. I've achieved an acceptable
> > > > | compromise, but I'd sure like to know how to do it right. I checked

> and
> > > do
> > > > | have cell padding and spacing set to 4 and 2 (respectively).
> > > > | Diana
> > > > |
> > > > | "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > | news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > | If you are applying an image as a cell background
> > > > | (set it to a fixed px size in your image editor, not a html viewing

> size
> > > in
> > > > | FP)
> > > > | Make the cell size 2 px less than the height and width of the image

> size
> > > > | - set table cellspacing and cellpadding to 0
> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > > | --
> > > > |
> > > > | _____________________________________________
> > > > | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > > > | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > > > | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > > > | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > | _____________________________________________
> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > > | "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > | | Sorry Stefan, I deleted the other post from my listing. It was so
> > > badly
> > > > | | written (I was in a bit of a "state") - and contained so many
> > > redundancies
> > > > | I
> > > > | | couldn't believe I wrote it.
> > > > | |
> > > > | | Would you mind doing a copy/paste so that I can read it.
> > > > | |
> > > > | | I didn't mean to duplicate the post for the sake of putting it up
> > > there
> > > > | | twice! I just wanted to simplify my request so that others could
> > > actually
> > > > | | understand it. Even I found it confusing when I re-read it later.

> My
> > > > | | apologies. Diana
> > > > | |
> > > > | | "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > | | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > | | See response in your duplicate post
> > > > | |
> > > > | | --
> > > > | |
> > > > | | _____________________________________________
> > > > | | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > > > | | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > > > | | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > > > | | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > | | _____________________________________________
> > > > | |
> > > > | |
> > > > | | "Dianah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > | | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > | | | Ok ... I'm having too much trouble with this.
> > > > | | |
> > > > | | | I've drawn an image (and can resize to any size - using pixel

> units
> > > in
> > > > | the
> > > > | | | graphic's software). I've
> > > > | | | tried to make it the same size as the table cell width and

> heighth
> > > to
> > > > | use
> > > > | | it
> > > > | | | as a background.
> > > > | | |
> > > > | | | So far, I've had to make it double the pixel width and height to

> get
> > > > | close
> > > > | | | to the cell size.
> > > > | | |
> > > > | | | Can anyone help? I can't believe this is such a guessing game.
> > > > | | | Thanks in advance. Diana
> > > > | | |
> > > > | | |
> > > > | | |
> > > > | |
> > > > | |
> > > > | |
> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

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