When my organization redesigned its site to include long JavaScript menus,
slideshow, and scroller, the download time for the home page went from under
one second to several seconds. The ceo wants to keep the new look.
I added plain text links to 2 alternative navigation systems (an
alphabetical index and a contact directory). How can I make sure the plain
text links load quickly to make the page usable, even if the menus, etc.,
take longer?
Is there anything else I could do to optimize download time?
The url is www.nacc.edu
Thanks for any advice!!!

You also need to view the page in Firefox. It's not compatible.
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"Mir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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| When my organization redesigned its site to include long JavaScript menus,
| slideshow, and scroller, the download time for the home page went from
under
| one second to several seconds. The ceo wants to keep the new look.
| I added plain text links to 2 alternative navigation systems (an
| alphabetical index and a contact directory). How can I make sure the plain
| text links load quickly to make the page usable, even if the menus, etc.,
| take longer?
| Is there anything else I could do to optimize download time?
| The url is www.nacc.edu
| Thanks for any advice!!!

Woops. Is it usable at all?
I'm getting Firefox.

"Tom Willett" wrote:

> You also need to view the page in Firefox. It's not compatible.
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> Tom Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> ---
> FrontPage Support:
> http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> ===
> "Mir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:C2436EA3-2E1D-495A-B44F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> | When my organization redesigned its site to include long JavaScript menus,
> | slideshow, and scroller, the download time for the home page went from
> under
> | one second to several seconds. The ceo wants to keep the new look.
> | I added plain text links to 2 alternative navigation systems (an
> | alphabetical index and a contact directory). How can I make sure the plain
> | text links load quickly to make the page usable, even if the menus, etc.,
> | take longer?
> | Is there anything else I could do to optimize download time?
> | The url is www.nacc.edu
> | Thanks for any advice!!!
>
>
>

It looks pretty bad ;-)
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"Mir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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| Woops. Is it usable at all?
| I'm getting Firefox.
|
| "Tom Willett" wrote:
|
| > You also need to view the page in Firefox. It's not compatible.
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > FrontPage Support:
| > http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| > ===
| > "Mir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| > news:C2436EA3-2E1D-495A-B44F-(E-Mail Removed)...
| > | When my organization redesigned its site to include long JavaScript
menus,
| > | slideshow, and scroller, the download time for the home page went from
| > under
| > | one second to several seconds. The ceo wants to keep the new look.
| > | I added plain text links to 2 alternative navigation systems (an
| > | alphabetical index and a contact directory). How can I make sure the
plain
| > | text links load quickly to make the page usable, even if the menus,
etc.,
| > | take longer?
| > | Is there anything else I could do to optimize download time?
| > | The url is www.nacc.edu
| > | Thanks for any advice!!!
| >
| >
| >

It looks awful!
I'm working on some aspects right now.
Any other thoughts about download time?

"Tom Willett" wrote:

> It looks pretty bad ;-)
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> Tom Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> ---
> FrontPage Support:
> http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> ===
> "Mir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3FE9690F-62C1-496F-8FB6-(E-Mail Removed)...
> | Woops. Is it usable at all?
> | I'm getting Firefox.
> |
> | "Tom Willett" wrote:
> |
> | > You also need to view the page in Firefox. It's not compatible.
> | > --
> | > ===
> | > Tom Willett
> | > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> | > ---
> | > FrontPage Support:
> | > http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> | > ===
> | > "Mir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | > news:C2436EA3-2E1D-495A-B44F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> | > | When my organization redesigned its site to include long JavaScript
> menus,
> | > | slideshow, and scroller, the download time for the home page went from
> | > under
> | > | one second to several seconds. The ceo wants to keep the new look.
> | > | I added plain text links to 2 alternative navigation systems (an
> | > | alphabetical index and a contact directory). How can I make sure the
> plain
> | > | text links load quickly to make the page usable, even if the menus,
> etc.,
> | > | take longer?
> | > | Is there anything else I could do to optimize download time?
> | > | The url is www.nacc.edu
> | > | Thanks for any advice!!!
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>

Wow, that took me a full half minute to download completely. Let's start
this thing off. Do you know what your server's connection speeds are?
Because that was painful.

My recommendation would be, if you can afford to, bring down the background
picture quality down in Photoshop. To do this, you save a copy of it, and
reduce the quality with the slide bar when it pops up. Sometimes there's a
bit of degredation in jpgs when you do that though, so be careful. My other
recommendation would be to take some of the images and scripts OUT of the
preloader. I say this because if you're a regular visitor to the site, you
can still navigate the site and get things done without waiting for the
images. Also, that scrolling marquee... though cool, is taking up a lot of
time to load. Dunno what you could do with that, but that's what I observed.

Oh, by the way, check the rollover color of the Financial Aid button, it
doesn't match the others.

"Mir" wrote:

> When my organization redesigned its site to include long JavaScript menus,
> slideshow, and scroller, the download time for the home page went from under
> one second to several seconds. The ceo wants to keep the new look.
> I added plain text links to 2 alternative navigation systems (an
> alphabetical index and a contact directory). How can I make sure the plain
> text links load quickly to make the page usable, even if the menus, etc.,
> take longer?
> Is there anything else I could do to optimize download time?
> The url is www.nacc.edu
> Thanks for any advice!!!

Tom, I have 2 different classes of links with their own colors and hover
colors. Does this not work with Firefox?

"Tom Willett" wrote:

> It looks pretty bad ;-)
> --
> ===
> Tom Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> ---
> FrontPage Support:
> http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> ===
> "Mir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3FE9690F-62C1-496F-8FB6-(E-Mail Removed)...
> | Woops. Is it usable at all?
> | I'm getting Firefox.
> |
> | "Tom Willett" wrote:
> |
> | > You also need to view the page in Firefox. It's not compatible.
> | > --
> | > ===
> | > Tom Willett
> | > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> | > ---
> | > FrontPage Support:
> | > http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> | > ===
> | > "Mir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | > news:C2436EA3-2E1D-495A-B44F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> | > | When my organization redesigned its site to include long JavaScript
> menus,
> | > | slideshow, and scroller, the download time for the home page went from
> | > under
> | > | one second to several seconds. The ceo wants to keep the new look.
> | > | I added plain text links to 2 alternative navigation systems (an
> | > | alphabetical index and a contact directory). How can I make sure the
> plain
> | > | text links load quickly to make the page usable, even if the menus,
> etc.,
> | > | take longer?
> | > | Is there anything else I could do to optimize download time?
> | > | The url is www.nacc.edu
> | > | Thanks for any advice!!!
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>

One reason it glitches in FF and to some extent in IE7 is because you have
no DOCTYPE in the head so they are going into quirks mode

But yeah, the download time is really horrible...

It would take 5 minutes or more on a dial up modem

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"Mir" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:C2436EA3-2E1D-495A-B44F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> When my organization redesigned its site to include long JavaScript menus,
> slideshow, and scroller, the download time for the home page went from
> under
> one second to several seconds. The ceo wants to keep the new look.
> I added plain text links to 2 alternative navigation systems (an
> alphabetical index and a contact directory). How can I make sure the plain
> text links load quickly to make the page usable, even if the menus, etc.,
> take longer?
> Is there anything else I could do to optimize download time?
> The url is www.nacc.edu
> Thanks for any advice!!!

I really appreciate the analysis.
How do I take images and scripts "out of the preloader"?

"redemption2" wrote:

> Wow, that took me a full half minute to download completely. Let's start
> this thing off. Do you know what your server's connection speeds are?
> Because that was painful.
>
> My recommendation would be, if you can afford to, bring down the background
> picture quality down in Photoshop. To do this, you save a copy of it, and
> reduce the quality with the slide bar when it pops up. Sometimes there's a
> bit of degredation in jpgs when you do that though, so be careful. My other
> recommendation would be to take some of the images and scripts OUT of the
> preloader. I say this because if you're a regular visitor to the site, you
> can still navigate the site and get things done without waiting for the
> images. Also, that scrolling marquee... though cool, is taking up a lot of
> time to load. Dunno what you could do with that, but that's what I observed.
>
> Oh, by the way, check the rollover color of the Financial Aid button, it
> doesn't match the others.
>
> "Mir" wrote:
>
> > When my organization redesigned its site to include long JavaScript menus,
> > slideshow, and scroller, the download time for the home page went from under
> > one second to several seconds. The ceo wants to keep the new look.
> > I added plain text links to 2 alternative navigation systems (an
> > alphabetical index and a contact directory). How can I make sure the plain
> > text links load quickly to make the page usable, even if the menus, etc.,
> > take longer?
> > Is there anything else I could do to optimize download time?
> > The url is www.nacc.edu
> > Thanks for any advice!!!

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