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      18th Dec 2005
I have included:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

in my page (www.vohdenassociates.com) but upon validation it fails with the
message:
"Page is Not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!"

Can someone help me with the correct doctype to use?
Thanks folks.
 
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Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]
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      18th Dec 2005
Your DOCTYPE statement is fine - using a different one won't help. It's the
HTML in your page that's invalid.

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~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/


"Spyder2" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have included:
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
>
> in my page (www.vohdenassociates.com) but upon validation it fails with
> the
> message:
> "Page is Not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!"
>
> Can someone help me with the correct doctype to use?
> Thanks folks.
 
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Tom J
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      18th Dec 2005

"Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message news:OYOpuz%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Your DOCTYPE statement is fine - using a different one won't help.
> It's the HTML in your page that's invalid.

After just trying for 2 days to validate a single page of my site that
is a simple table page with an "include" banner/drop down index, I've
reached the conclusion that there is no way to validate a page when FP
2003 is being used. Closing tags will be moved and names used that
don't validate, especially when inserting the "include". I did
validate the banner/drop down index, but I did it with another html
editor. How wrong am I?

Tom J
 
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Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]
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      18th Dec 2005
Tom:
Pages that include the "include" component can validate. What's the URL of
the page you're trying to validate?

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~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/


"Tom J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:clkpf.6722$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message news:OYOpuz%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Your DOCTYPE statement is fine - using a different one won't help. It's
>> the HTML in your page that's invalid.
>
> After just trying for 2 days to validate a single page of my site that is
> a simple table page with an "include" banner/drop down index, I've reached
> the conclusion that there is no way to validate a page when FP 2003 is
> being used. Closing tags will be moved and names used that don't validate,
> especially when inserting the "include". I did validate the banner/drop
> down index, but I did it with another html editor. How wrong am I?
>
> Tom J
>
 
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Tom J
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      18th Dec 2005
http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/newpage_blank.htm
This is the blank page I used to try to get it to validate.

http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/banner3.htm
This is the include that is at the top of the blank page
Tom J

"Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Tom:
> Pages that include the "include" component can validate. What's the
> URL of the page you're trying to validate?
>
> --
> ~ Kathleen Anderson
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> Spider Web Woman Designs
> web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
>
>
> "Tom J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:clkpf.6722$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote in message news:OYOpuz%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Your DOCTYPE statement is fine - using a different one won't help.
>>> It's the HTML in your page that's invalid.
>>
>> After just trying for 2 days to validate a single page of my site
>> that is a simple table page with an "include" banner/drop down
>> index, I've reached the conclusion that there is no way to validate
>> a page when FP 2003 is being used. Closing tags will be moved and
>> names used that don't validate, especially when inserting the
>> "include". I did validate the banner/drop down index, but I did it
>> with another html editor. How wrong am I?
>>
>> Tom J
>>
>
>
 
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Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]
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      19th Dec 2005
The banner page passes validation and you only have a couple of errors on
the page it's included in. It shouldn't be too hard to clean it up.

--
~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/


"Tom J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:BCmpf.7280$(E-Mail Removed)...
> http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/newpage_blank.htm
> This is the blank page I used to try to get it to validate.
>
> http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/banner3.htm
> This is the include that is at the top of the blank page
> Tom J
>
> "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Tom:
>> Pages that include the "include" component can validate. What's the URL
>> of the page you're trying to validate?
>>
>> --
>> ~ Kathleen Anderson
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>> Spider Web Woman Designs
>> web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
>>
>>
>> "Tom J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:clkpf.6722$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>> message news:OYOpuz%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Your DOCTYPE statement is fine - using a different one won't help. It's
>>>> the HTML in your page that's invalid.
>>>
>>> After just trying for 2 days to validate a single page of my site that
>>> is a simple table page with an "include" banner/drop down index, I've
>>> reached the conclusion that there is no way to validate a page when FP
>>> 2003 is being used. Closing tags will be moved and names used that don't
>>> validate, especially when inserting the "include". I did validate the
>>> banner/drop down index, but I did it with another html editor. How wrong
>>> am I?
>>>
>>> Tom J
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
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p c
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      19th Dec 2005
You must have cleaned-up. Thr only errot I get is:
mising: type="text/css"
from: <style>

...PC

Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage] wrote:
> The banner page passes validation and you only have a couple of errors on
> the page it's included in. It shouldn't be too hard to clean it up.
>
 
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Stefan B Rusynko
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      19th Dec 2005
The main page and banner page has lots of real critical user created errors (not FP generated at all)
- Largest one is no form tag surrounding the form
- Duplicate meta tags
<meta http-equiv="expires" content="0">
<meta http-equiv="expires" content="Sun, Dec 31 1970 12:00:00 GMT">
- Empty Title tag
- and missing closing </html> tag

Put either http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/banner3.htm or http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/newpage_blank.htm in the single page validator
at
http://www.doctor-html.com/RxHTML/cgi-bin/single.cgi
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_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPa...3/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


"Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| The banner page passes validation and you only have a couple of errors on
| the page it's included in. It shouldn't be too hard to clean it up.
|
| --
| ~ Kathleen Anderson
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| Spider Web Woman Designs
| web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
|
|
| "Tom J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:BCmpf.7280$(E-Mail Removed)...
| > http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/newpage_blank.htm
| > This is the blank page I used to try to get it to validate.
| >
| > http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/banner3.htm
| > This is the include that is at the top of the blank page
| > Tom J
| >
| > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
| > message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| >> Tom:
| >> Pages that include the "include" component can validate. What's the URL
| >> of the page you're trying to validate?
| >>
| >> --
| >> ~ Kathleen Anderson
| >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >> Spider Web Woman Designs
| >> web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
| >>
| >>
| >> "Tom J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| >> news:clkpf.6722$(E-Mail Removed)...
| >>>
| >>> "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
| >>> message news:OYOpuz%(E-Mail Removed)...
| >>>> Your DOCTYPE statement is fine - using a different one won't help. It's
| >>>> the HTML in your page that's invalid.
| >>>
| >>> After just trying for 2 days to validate a single page of my site that
| >>> is a simple table page with an "include" banner/drop down index, I've
| >>> reached the conclusion that there is no way to validate a page when FP
| >>> 2003 is being used. Closing tags will be moved and names used that don't
| >>> validate, especially when inserting the "include". I did validate the
| >>> banner/drop down index, but I did it with another html editor. How wrong
| >>> am I?
| >>>
| >>> Tom J
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
 
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Tom J
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      19th Dec 2005
What form? If I have a form, I don't know. I have a table inside
another table to give a picture frame look to the site.
The duplicate meta tags are really not duplicate. It take 3 different
kind to get different browsers to load a fresh page each time since
many pages in the site change often. Full online pages on the site
have title tag & meta description filled in. I added to missing
closing /html tag.

There are many errors on every page in the site. That's the reason I
am trying to see if it's possible to validate FP 2003 generated pages
that also have some design input. I have found that over half my
errors are FP generated.

I would not think the banner would need any more header info than it
already has since it's included within another page with every use. Am
I wrong?
Thanks,
Tom J

"Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The main page and banner page has lots of real critical user created
> errors (not FP generated at all)
> - Largest one is no form tag surrounding the form
> - Duplicate meta tags
> <meta http-equiv="expires" content="0">
> <meta http-equiv="expires" content="Sun, Dec 31 1970 12:00:00 GMT">
> - Empty Title tag
> - and missing closing </html> tag
>
> Put either http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/banner3.htm or
> http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/newpage_blank.htm in the single page
> validator
> at
> http://www.doctor-html.com/RxHTML/cgi-bin/single.cgi
> --
>
> _____________________________________________
> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
>
> http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPa...3/Default.aspx
> _____________________________________________
>
>
> "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> | The banner page passes validation and you only have a couple of
> errors on
> | the page it's included in. It shouldn't be too hard to clean it
> up.
> |
> | --
> | ~ Kathleen Anderson
> | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> | Spider Web Woman Designs
> | web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
> |
> |
> | "Tom J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | news:BCmpf.7280$(E-Mail Removed)...
> | > http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/newpage_blank.htm
> | > This is the blank page I used to try to get it to validate.
> | >
> | > http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/banner3.htm
> | > This is the include that is at the top of the blank page
> | > Tom J
> | >
> | > "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote in
> | > message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> | >> Tom:
> | >> Pages that include the "include" component can validate. What's
> the URL
> | >> of the page you're trying to validate?
> | >>
> | >> --
> | >> ~ Kathleen Anderson
> | >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> | >> Spider Web Woman Designs
> | >> web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
> | >>
> | >>
> | >> "Tom J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | >> news:clkpf.6722$(E-Mail Removed)...
> | >>>
> | >>> "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> | >>> message news:OYOpuz%(E-Mail Removed)...
> | >>>> Your DOCTYPE statement is fine - using a different one won't
> help. It's
> | >>>> the HTML in your page that's invalid.
> | >>>
> | >>> After just trying for 2 days to validate a single page of my
> site that
> | >>> is a simple table page with an "include" banner/drop down
> index, I've
> | >>> reached the conclusion that there is no way to validate a page
> when FP
> | >>> 2003 is being used. Closing tags will be moved and names used
> that don't
> | >>> validate, especially when inserting the "include". I did
> validate the
> | >>> banner/drop down index, but I did it with another html editor.
> How wrong
> | >>> am I?
> | >>>
> | >>> Tom J
> | >>>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
 
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      19th Dec 2005
I finally got it in the correct place so the whole page validates.
Now, the question is, do I want to tackle the whole site? :-(

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http://www.fleetwoodclub.org/

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> You must have cleaned-up. Thr only errot I get is:
> mising: type="text/css"
> from: <style>
>
> ..PC
>
> Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage] wrote:
>> The banner page passes validation and you only have a couple of
>> errors on the page it's included in. It shouldn't be too hard to
>> clean it up.
>>
 
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