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Dennis
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      11th Dec 2003
I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I had to
install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
following message...
"Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
required to boot up the computer."

I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were able
to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.

Anyone have any suggestions?
 
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Kilgore Trout
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      12th Dec 2003
In article <064b01c3bfb0$f290efc0$(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
> NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I had to
> install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
> that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
> following message...
> "Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
> required to boot up the computer."
>
> I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were able
> to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?


You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.

In my system, the Network devices key is at:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS Async Adapter")

Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84 will allow its
removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk network
adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove that, too.

You need to look at all network card class items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy. I'd suggest that
you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.

You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership of the
\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change anything.

--
Al M-c-C-a-n-n
m a c 3 5 8 (at)-n e w s g u y-(dot) c o m
 
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Vance Green
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      12th Dec 2003

"Kilgore Trout" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <064b01c3bfb0$f290efc0$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
> > NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I had to
> > install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
> > that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
> > following message...
> > "Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
> > required to boot up the computer."
> >
> > I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were able
> > to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.
> >
> > Anyone have any suggestions?

>
> You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.
>
> In my system, the Network devices key is at:
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
> E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
> (where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS Async Adapter")
>
> Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
> from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84 will allow its
> removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk network
> adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove that, too.
>
> You need to look at all network card class items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
> Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy. I'd suggest that
> you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.
>
> You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership of the
> \CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
> E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change anything.
>
> --
> Al M-c-C-a-n-n
> m a c 3 5 8 (at)-n e w s g u y-(dot) c o m


Yow!

This sounds dangerous. Lots of room
for error.

Try this instead:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;241257 Device
Manager Does Not Display Devices Not Currently Present in Windows 2000

I've used it, it works...


 
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Dennis
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      12th Dec 2003
I found the entries but were already set to 84. Already
had ownership. Still can't delete. Any further wisdom to
add?

>-----Original Message-----
>In article <064b01c3bfb0$f290efc0$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>(E-Mail Removed) says...
>> I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
>> NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I had

to
>> install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
>> that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
>> following message...
>> "Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
>> required to boot up the computer."
>>
>> I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were

able
>> to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions?

>
>You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.
>
>In my system, the Network devices key is at:
>

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
{4D36E972-
>E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
>(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS

Async Adapter")
>
>Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
>from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84

will allow its
>removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk

network
>adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove that,

too.
>
>You need to look at all network card class

items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
>Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy. I'd

suggest that
>you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.
>
>You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership of

the
>\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
>E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change

anything.
>
>--
>Al M-c-C-a-n-n
>m a c 3 5 8 (at)-n e w s g u y-(dot) c o m
>.
>

 
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      12th Dec 2003

>-----Original Message-----
>
>"Kilgore Trout" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In article <064b01c3bfb0$f290efc0$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>> (E-Mail Removed) says...
>> > I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
>> > NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I

had to
>> > install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
>> > that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
>> > following message...
>> > "Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
>> > required to boot up the computer."
>> >
>> > I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were

able
>> > to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.
>> >
>> > Anyone have any suggestions?

>>
>> You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.
>>
>> In my system, the Network devices key is at:
>>

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
{4D36E972-
>> E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
>> (where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS

Async Adapter")
>>
>> Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
>> from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84

will allow its
>> removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk

network
>> adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove

that, too.
>>
>> You need to look at all network card class

items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
>> Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy.

I'd suggest that
>> you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.
>>
>> You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership

of the
>> \CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
>> E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change

anything.
>>
>> --
>> Al M-c-C-a-n-n
>> m a c 3 5 8 (at)-n e w s g u y-(dot) c o m

>
>Yow!
>
>This sounds dangerous. Lots of room
>for error.
>
>Try this instead:
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-

us;241257 Device
>Manager Does Not Display Devices Not Currently Present in

Windows 2000
>
>I've used it, it works...
>
>
>.
>

I can see the devices just by turning on "show hidden
devices" but still cannot remove them.

Where is the switch to turn off/on so I can remove them!

 
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Russ Tanner
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      12th Dec 2003
disable the internal NIC in the Hardware Manager??

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Russ Tanner
Palmer, Alaska
email: russattannersacredotcom
http://www.tannersacre.com

"Dennis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:05e301c3c070$ac812200$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I found the entries but were already set to 84. Already
> had ownership. Still can't delete. Any further wisdom to
> add?
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >In article <064b01c3bfb0$f290efc0$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> >(E-Mail Removed) says...
> >> I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
> >> NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I had

> to
> >> install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
> >> that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
> >> following message...
> >> "Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
> >> required to boot up the computer."
> >>
> >> I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were

> able
> >> to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.
> >>
> >> Anyone have any suggestions?

> >
> >You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.
> >
> >In my system, the Network devices key is at:
> >

> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
> {4D36E972-
> >E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
> >(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS

> Async Adapter")
> >
> >Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
> >from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84

> will allow its
> >removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk

> network
> >adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove that,

> too.
> >
> >You need to look at all network card class

> items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
> >Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy. I'd

> suggest that
> >you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.
> >
> >You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership of

> the
> >\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
> >E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change

> anything.
> >
> >--
> >Al M-c-C-a-n-n
> >m a c 3 5 8 (at)-n e w s g u y-(dot) c o m
> >.
> >



 
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dennis
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      13th Dec 2003
I can easily disable them but I want them gone!!!
It warns you every time you set the static IP address on
the current cards that those non-exsistant cards have the
same IP address and could have problems if they are
reinstalled. I know MS is trying to protect people from
themselves but this is ridiculous. It shouldn't be this
hard to get rid of non-exsistant hardware!

Thanks for your input Russ.

>-----Original Message-----
>disable the internal NIC in the Hardware Manager??
>
>--
>Russ Tanner
>Palmer, Alaska
>email: russattannersacredotcom
>http://www.tannersacre.com
>
>"Dennis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>news:05e301c3c070$ac812200$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I found the entries but were already set to 84. Already
>> had ownership. Still can't delete. Any further wisdom

to
>> add?
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >In article <064b01c3bfb0$f290efc0$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>> >(E-Mail Removed) says...
>> >> I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and

2
>> >> NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I

had
>> to
>> >> install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden"

NICs
>> >> that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
>> >> following message...
>> >> "Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
>> >> required to boot up the computer."
>> >>
>> >> I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were

>> able
>> >> to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone have any suggestions?
>> >
>> >You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.
>> >
>> >In my system, the Network devices key is at:
>> >

>>

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
>> {4D36E972-
>> >E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
>> >(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS

>> Async Adapter")
>> >
>> >Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
>> >from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84

>> will allow its
>> >removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk

>> network
>> >adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove

that,
>> too.
>> >
>> >You need to look at all network card class

>> items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
>> >Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy.

I'd
>> suggest that
>> >you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.
>> >
>> >You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership

of
>> the
>> >\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
>> >E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change

>> anything.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Al M-c-C-a-n-n
>> >m a c 3 5 8 (at)-n e w s g u y-(dot) c o m
>> >.
>> >

>
>
>.
>

 
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Pavel A.
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      14th Dec 2003
Dennis,
This procedure (show hidden devices etc) normally should work.
Try this again in safe mode, and make sure you are administrator.
If you get same error - something in the system is broken (just one of 1000
possible reasons: the INF files of that netcard drivers are deleted).
Then, look for professional help. Editing registry can do more harm if you
aren't sure what you are doing.


"dennis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:045e01c3c1c1$7a74a6e0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I can easily disable them but I want them gone!!!
> It warns you every time you set the static IP address on
> the current cards that those non-exsistant cards have the
> same IP address and could have problems if they are
> reinstalled. I know MS is trying to protect people from
> themselves but this is ridiculous. It shouldn't be this
> hard to get rid of non-exsistant hardware!
>
> Thanks for your input Russ.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >disable the internal NIC in the Hardware Manager??
> >
> >--
> >Russ Tanner
> >Palmer, Alaska
> >email: russattannersacredotcom
> >http://www.tannersacre.com
> >
> >"Dennis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> message
> >news:05e301c3c070$ac812200$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I found the entries but were already set to 84. Already
> >> had ownership. Still can't delete. Any further wisdom

> to
> >> add?
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >In article <064b01c3bfb0$f290efc0$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> >> >(E-Mail Removed) says...
> >> >> I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and

> 2
> >> >> NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I

> had
> >> to
> >> >> install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden"

> NICs
> >> >> that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
> >> >> following message...
> >> >> "Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
> >> >> required to boot up the computer."
> >> >>
> >> >> I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were
> >> able
> >> >> to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyone have any suggestions?
> >> >
> >> >You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.
> >> >
> >> >In my system, the Network devices key is at:
> >> >
> >>

> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
> >> {4D36E972-
> >> >E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
> >> >(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS
> >> Async Adapter")
> >> >
> >> >Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
> >> >from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84
> >> will allow its
> >> >removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk
> >> network
> >> >adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove

> that,
> >> too.
> >> >
> >> >You need to look at all network card class
> >> items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
> >> >Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy.

> I'd
> >> suggest that
> >> >you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.
> >> >
> >> >You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership

> of
> >> the
> >> >\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
> >> >E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change
> >> anything.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Al M-c-C-a-n-n
> >> >m a c 3 5 8 (at)-n e w s g u y-(dot) c o m
> >> >.
> >> >

> >
> >
> >.
> >



 
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