do i still need anti virus software installed if im
running this spyware programme?

>-----Original Message-----
>do i still need anti virus software installed if im
>running this spyware programme?

huh !....... YES

More about this:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/default.mspx

1. Firewall
2. Updates
3. Antivirusprogram.
4. Antispywareprogram.

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plun

Just for reinforcement:

YES. Plun has the right list and in the right order!

There are lots of rumors about what is in Microsoft Antispyware and what you
don't need or what it will conflict with. Ignore them. It doesn't
substitute for anything else on your machine except another antispyware
program which provides real-time protection.

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FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"nomis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:158301c51990$1322cd00$(E-Mail Removed)...
> do i still need anti virus software installed if im
> running this spyware programme?

Bill Sanderson wrote:
> Just for reinforcement:
>
> YES. Plun has the right list and in the right order!

No, I have not if a user haven´t installed SP2.

Before you install SP2 you must clean up your PC with a
antispyware program and updated antivirusprogram.

If SP2 is installed this list is ok.

I think this has caused a lot of bad reputation/rumours
about SP2

--
plun

I still think the list is right--firewall is first, and SP2 is an update,
which is second.

I do agree about trying to clean the machine before installing SP2, though.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"plun" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Bill Sanderson wrote:
>> Just for reinforcement:
>>
>> YES. Plun has the right list and in the right order!
>
> No, I have not if a user haven´t installed SP2.
>
> Before you install SP2 you must clean up your PC with a
> antispyware program and updated antivirusprogram.
>
> If SP2 is installed this list is ok.
>
> I think this has caused a lot of bad reputation/rumours about SP2
>
> --
> plun

Bill Sanderson wrote:
> I still think the list is right--firewall is first, and SP2 is an update,
> which is second.
>
> I do agree about trying to clean the machine before installing SP2, though.

Not only "try", you MUST clean it before.

Otherwise its like "russian roulette" to install SP2.

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plun

Bill

The link provided by Plun earlier gave two non-Microsoft Anti-Spyware
providers, Adaware and Spybot Search & Destroy. However, the freeware
versions of these, unless I am mistaken, do not provide real-time
protection. This is a point worth watching when MSAS moves from beta to
non-beta.

Of course using a Hosts file, even if the user does not add to the
original list, does provide a measure of real time protection.

--


Regards.

Gerry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


"Bill Sanderson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I still think the list is right--firewall is first, and SP2 is an
>update, which is second.
>
> I do agree about trying to clean the machine before installing SP2,
> though.
> --
> FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
> "plun" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Bill Sanderson wrote:
>>> Just for reinforcement:
>>>
>>> YES. Plun has the right list and in the right order!
>>
>> No, I have not if a user haven´t installed SP2.
>>
>> Before you install SP2 you must clean up your PC with a
>> antispyware program and updated antivirusprogram.
>>
>> If SP2 is installed this list is ok.
>>
>> I think this has caused a lot of bad reputation/rumours about SP2
>>
>> --
>> plun
>
>

This is absolutely correct. I don't know of a free solution giving active
protection.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Gerry Cornell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Bill
>
> The link provided by Plun earlier gave two non-Microsoft Anti-Spyware
> providers, Adaware and Spybot Search & Destroy. However, the freeware
> versions of these, unless I am mistaken, do not provide real-time
> protection. This is a point worth watching when MSAS moves from beta to
> non-beta.
>
> Of course using a Hosts file, even if the user does not add to the
> original list, does provide a measure of real time protection.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Gerry
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> FCA
>
> Stourport, Worcs, England
> Enquire, plan and execute.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> "Bill Sanderson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I still think the list is right--firewall is first, and SP2 is an update,
>>which is second.
>>
>> I do agree about trying to clean the machine before installing SP2,
>> though.
>> --
>> FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
>> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>
>> "plun" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Bill Sanderson wrote:
>>>> Just for reinforcement:
>>>>
>>>> YES. Plun has the right list and in the right order!
>>>
>>> No, I have not if a user haven´t installed SP2.
>>>
>>> Before you install SP2 you must clean up your PC with a
>>> antispyware program and updated antivirusprogram.
>>>
>>> If SP2 is installed this list is ok.
>>>
>>> I think this has caused a lot of bad reputation/rumours about SP2
>>>
>>> --
>>> plun
>>
>>
>

Bill Sanderson wrote:
> This is absolutely correct. I don't know of a free solution giving active
> protection.

This one gives real time protection

http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

I have removed this program on my PC´s and see if
MSAS can handle this.

--
plun

Gerry Cornell wrote:
> Bill
>
> The link provided by Plun earlier gave two non-Microsoft Anti-Spyware
> providers, Adaware and Spybot Search & Destroy. However, the freeware
> versions of these, unless I am mistaken, do not provide real-time
> protection. This is a point worth watching when MSAS moves from beta to
> non-beta.

These to non MS companys are respected by MS themselves
beacuse they have
saved MS from a total fiasko with SP2.

Check this page:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx

We follow point 2:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...kcomputer.mspx

And finds MSAS, Adaware and Spybot.

Keep at least 2 of these, dont depend on only MS.

And of course the major benefit with MSAS is real time
protection.

--
plun