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How do I get includes to work in FP or is it caching?

 
 
Trevor Lawrence
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      13th Jan 2010
I have a site with FP includes - see URL below

All these pages include sidebar.html
album.html
about.html
contacts.html
events.html
index.html

I have amended sidebar.html and published all the above several times, but
only index.html shows the updates, whereas the others do not (as evidenced
by the action of the pages and View Source)

The latest change is very minor but it can be seen quite clearly. The
included file
sidebar.html has this at line 108
<a id="flink"
href="testpage.html"
target="_self">
</a>

But the old code is still present on events.html at line 116
<a id="flink"
href="testpage.html"
target="_self">No Title
</a>

It HAS been updated on index.html line 131
<a id="flink"
href="testpage.html"
target="_self">
</a>

I thought maybe it is caching but all 5 pages have this code in the <head>
<meta http-equiv="cache-control" content="no-cache">

What is wrong and how do I fix it ?

P.S. Just to confuse even further, I have now exited FP and looked the files
in a text editor and now they ARE changed .

So is it caching and how do make sure that the latest page is loaded every
time ?
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Trevor Lawrence
Secretary and Webmaster
The Retired ACT Transport Employees Club
Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net


 
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Trevor Lawrence
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      13th Jan 2010
"Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
news:%23%23hJlu%(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a site with FP includes - see URL below
>
> [snip] What is wrong and how do I fix it ?
>
> P.S. Just to confuse even further, I have now exited FP and looked the
> files in a text editor and now they ARE changed .
>
> So is it caching and how do make sure that the latest page is loaded every
> time ?


I have now opened the remote website in IE8 and all pages are fine.

So the question is - how do I ensure that changes are reflected IMMEDIATELY

--
Trevor Lawrence
Secretary and Webmaster
The Retired ACT Transport Employees Club
Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net


 
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Stefan B Rusynko
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      13th Jan 2010
Clear your browser cache regularly

PS
You link won't show on a page since it is an empty hyperlink
<a id="flink" href="testpage.html" target="_self"></a>


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"Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message news:ONQKq2%(E-Mail Removed)...
"Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
news:%23%23hJlu%(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a site with FP includes - see URL below
>
> [snip] What is wrong and how do I fix it ?
>
> P.S. Just to confuse even further, I have now exited FP and looked the
> files in a text editor and now they ARE changed .
>
> So is it caching and how do make sure that the latest page is loaded every
> time ?


I have now opened the remote website in IE8 and all pages are fine.

So the question is - how do I ensure that changes are reflected IMMEDIATELY

--
Trevor Lawrence
Secretary and Webmaster
The Retired ACT Transport Employees Club
Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net



 
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Trevor Lawrence
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      14th Jan 2010
Thanks, Stefan

In reply,
1. Where are the cached files stored ?
2. The link is populated by a JS function
function setlink (toLoad,From,pTitle){
var x = document.anchors("flink");
x.href = toLoad + '?hr=' + From.substr(From.search("ratec/")+6)
+ '&ptitle=' + pTitle ;
x.innerHTML = x.title = pTitle;
}
although I am working on placing default values in the link and changing the
JS to overwrite them

--
Trevor Lawrence
Canberra
Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net


"Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Clear your browser cache regularly
>
> PS
> You link won't show on a page since it is an empty hyperlink
> <a id="flink" href="testpage.html" target="_self"></a>
>
>
> --
>
> _____________________________________________
> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> _____________________________________________
>
>
> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
> news:ONQKq2%(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
> news:%23%23hJlu%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have a site with FP includes - see URL below
>>
>> [snip] What is wrong and how do I fix it ?
>>
>> P.S. Just to confuse even further, I have now exited FP and looked the
>> files in a text editor and now they ARE changed .
>>
>> So is it caching and how do make sure that the latest page is loaded
>> every
>> time ?

>
> I have now opened the remote website in IE8 and all pages are fine.
>
> So the question is - how do I ensure that changes are reflected
> IMMEDIATELY
>
> --
> Trevor Lawrence
> Secretary and Webmaster
> The Retired ACT Transport Employees Club
> Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net
>
>
>



 
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Stefan B Rusynko
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      14th Jan 2010
Use your browser to delete the cache
- Tools Internet Options

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


"Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message news:%23gta$(E-Mail Removed)...
Thanks, Stefan

In reply,
1. Where are the cached files stored ?
2. The link is populated by a JS function
function setlink (toLoad,From,pTitle){
var x = document.anchors("flink");
x.href = toLoad + '?hr=' + From.substr(From.search("ratec/")+6)
+ '&ptitle=' + pTitle ;
x.innerHTML = x.title = pTitle;
}
although I am working on placing default values in the link and changing the
JS to overwrite them

--
Trevor Lawrence
Canberra
Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net


"Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Clear your browser cache regularly
>
> PS
> You link won't show on a page since it is an empty hyperlink
> <a id="flink" href="testpage.html" target="_self"></a>
>
>
> --
>
> _____________________________________________
> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> _____________________________________________
>
>
> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
> news:ONQKq2%(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
> news:%23%23hJlu%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have a site with FP includes - see URL below
>>
>> [snip] What is wrong and how do I fix it ?
>>
>> P.S. Just to confuse even further, I have now exited FP and looked the
>> files in a text editor and now they ARE changed .
>>
>> So is it caching and how do make sure that the latest page is loaded
>> every
>> time ?

>
> I have now opened the remote website in IE8 and all pages are fine.
>
> So the question is - how do I ensure that changes are reflected
> IMMEDIATELY
>
> --
> Trevor Lawrence
> Secretary and Webmaster
> The Retired ACT Transport Employees Club
> Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net
>
>
>




 
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Trevor Lawrence
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      14th Jan 2010

Thanks,

It appears that IE8 stores its temporary files in
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files

Tools | Internet Options has a button to delete temporary files, history,
cookies, saved passwords, and web form information.

Clicking this will clearly delete all these, but some are useful, especially
saved passwords and web form information.

I guess I will have to use a program such as CCleaner which gives me some
control


--
Trevor Lawrence
Canberra
Web Site http://trevorl.mvps.org

"Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Use your browser to delete the cache
> - Tools Internet Options
>
> --
>
> _____________________________________________
> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> _____________________________________________
>
>
> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
> news:%23gta$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks, Stefan
>
> In reply,
> 1. Where are the cached files stored ?
> 2. The link is populated by a JS function
> function setlink (toLoad,From,pTitle){
> var x = document.anchors("flink");
> x.href = toLoad + '?hr=' + From.substr(From.search("ratec/")+6)
> + '&ptitle=' + pTitle ;
> x.innerHTML = x.title = pTitle;
> }
> although I am working on placing default values in the link and changing
> the
> JS to overwrite them
>
> --
> Trevor Lawrence
> Canberra
> Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net
>
>
> "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Clear your browser cache regularly
>>
>> PS
>> You link won't show on a page since it is an empty hyperlink
>> <a id="flink" href="testpage.html" target="_self"></a>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> _____________________________________________
>> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
>> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
>> _____________________________________________
>>
>>
>> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
>> news:ONQKq2%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
>> news:%23%23hJlu%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have a site with FP includes - see URL below
>>>
>>> [snip] What is wrong and how do I fix it ?
>>>
>>> P.S. Just to confuse even further, I have now exited FP and looked the
>>> files in a text editor and now they ARE changed .
>>>
>>> So is it caching and how do make sure that the latest page is loaded
>>> every
>>> time ?

>>
>> I have now opened the remote website in IE8 and all pages are fine.
>>
>> So the question is - how do I ensure that changes are reflected
>> IMMEDIATELY
>>
>> --
>> Trevor Lawrence
>> Secretary and Webmaster
>> The Retired ACT Transport Employees Club
>> Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>



 
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Ronx
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      15th Jan 2010
IE8 gives you that control.
Click the button, then choose what you wish to delete.
In general, if a (Microsoft) button or menu option has ... as a suffix, then
another set of options follow.
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Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

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"Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Thanks,
>
> It appears that IE8 stores its temporary files in
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files
>
> Tools | Internet Options has a button to delete temporary files, history,
> cookies, saved passwords, and web form information.
>
> Clicking this will clearly delete all these, but some are useful,
> especially saved passwords and web form information.
>
> I guess I will have to use a program such as CCleaner which gives me some
> control
>
>
> --
> Trevor Lawrence
> Canberra
> Web Site http://trevorl.mvps.org
>
> "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Use your browser to delete the cache
>> - Tools Internet Options
>>
>> --
>>
>> _____________________________________________
>> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
>> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
>> _____________________________________________
>>
>>
>> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
>> news:%23gta$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks, Stefan
>>
>> In reply,
>> 1. Where are the cached files stored ?
>> 2. The link is populated by a JS function
>> function setlink (toLoad,From,pTitle){
>> var x = document.anchors("flink");
>> x.href = toLoad + '?hr=' + From.substr(From.search("ratec/")+6)
>> + '&ptitle=' + pTitle ;
>> x.innerHTML = x.title = pTitle;
>> }
>> although I am working on placing default values in the link and changing
>> the
>> JS to overwrite them
>>
>> --
>> Trevor Lawrence
>> Canberra
>> Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net
>>
>>
>> "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Clear your browser cache regularly
>>>
>>> PS
>>> You link won't show on a page since it is an empty hyperlink
>>> <a id="flink" href="testpage.html" target="_self"></a>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> _____________________________________________
>>> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
>>> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
>>> _____________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
>>> news:ONQKq2%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
>>> news:%23%23hJlu%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have a site with FP includes - see URL below
>>>>
>>>> [snip] What is wrong and how do I fix it ?
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Just to confuse even further, I have now exited FP and looked the
>>>> files in a text editor and now they ARE changed .
>>>>
>>>> So is it caching and how do make sure that the latest page is loaded
>>>> every
>>>> time ?
>>>
>>> I have now opened the remote website in IE8 and all pages are fine.
>>>
>>> So the question is - how do I ensure that changes are reflected
>>> IMMEDIATELY
>>>
>>> --
>>> Trevor Lawrence
>>> Secretary and Webmaster
>>> The Retired ACT Transport Employees Club
>>> Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>

>
>

 
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Trevor Lawrence
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      16th Jan 2010
Well, Duh, who is dumb - ME !?

I will have to experiment. I assume that deleting Cookies does not include
deleting saved passwords (since the latter are separate) Although under
Cookies, there is mention of login preferences. IIRC, there is also a
setting somewhere that specifies sites from which Cookies are NOT to be
deleted

--
Trevor Lawrence
Canberra
Web Site http://trevorl.mvps.org

"Ronx" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> IE8 gives you that control.
> Click the button, then choose what you wish to delete.
> In general, if a (Microsoft) button or menu option has ... as a suffix,
> then another set of options follow.
> --
> Ron Symonds
> Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)
> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
>
>
> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> It appears that IE8 stores its temporary files in
>> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files
>>
>> Tools | Internet Options has a button to delete temporary files, history,
>> cookies, saved passwords, and web form information.
>>
>> Clicking this will clearly delete all these, but some are useful,
>> especially saved passwords and web form information.
>>
>> I guess I will have to use a program such as CCleaner which gives me some
>> control
>>
>>
>> --
>> Trevor Lawrence
>> Canberra
>> Web Site http://trevorl.mvps.org
>>
>> "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Use your browser to delete the cache
>>> - Tools Internet Options
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> _____________________________________________
>>> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
>>> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
>>> _____________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
>>> news:%23gta$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Thanks, Stefan
>>>
>>> In reply,
>>> 1. Where are the cached files stored ?
>>> 2. The link is populated by a JS function
>>> function setlink (toLoad,From,pTitle){
>>> var x = document.anchors("flink");
>>> x.href = toLoad + '?hr=' + From.substr(From.search("ratec/")+6)
>>> + '&ptitle=' + pTitle ;
>>> x.innerHTML = x.title = pTitle;
>>> }
>>> although I am working on placing default values in the link and changing
>>> the
>>> JS to overwrite them
>>>
>>> --
>>> Trevor Lawrence
>>> Canberra
>>> Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net
>>>
>>>
>>> "Stefan B Rusynko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Clear your browser cache regularly
>>>>
>>>> PS
>>>> You link won't show on a page since it is an empty hyperlink
>>>> <a id="flink" href="testpage.html" target="_self"></a>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
>>>> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
>>>> news:ONQKq2%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> "Trevor Lawrence" <Trevor L.@Canberra> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23%23hJlu%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>I have a site with FP includes - see URL below
>>>>>
>>>>> [snip] What is wrong and how do I fix it ?
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Just to confuse even further, I have now exited FP and looked the
>>>>> files in a text editor and now they ARE changed .
>>>>>
>>>>> So is it caching and how do make sure that the latest page is loaded
>>>>> every
>>>>> time ?
>>>>
>>>> I have now opened the remote website in IE8 and all pages are fine.
>>>>
>>>> So the question is - how do I ensure that changes are reflected
>>>> IMMEDIATELY
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Trevor Lawrence
>>>> Secretary and Webmaster
>>>> The Retired ACT Transport Employees Club
>>>> Web Site http://ratec.actbus.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>



 
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