Hi,

I have a xml file on a shared folder(network, on NAS), which can be write
and read from any CE device that's attached to it.
I used WNetAddConnection3() to connect to the drive, which uses the SMB
protocol. This protocol supposely have a function
to do a lock on the file, but I can't find a API to do this. I have search
the newsgroups, but I can't find any for CE.

Any knows how to do this?

Also, how can I detect if the network connected? couldn't find anything on
that either.

I am using a custom CE device, Windows CE 5.0,
using .NET CF (2.x).

Thanks,

> I have a xml file on a shared folder(network, on NAS), which can be write
> and read from any CE device that's attached to it.
> I used WNetAddConnection3() to connect to the drive, which uses the SMB
> protocol. This protocol supposely have a function
> to do a lock on the file, but I can't find a API to do this. I have search
> the newsgroups, but I can't find any for CE.
>
> Any knows how to do this?

Be more specific about what you mean. "a lock on the file" isn't
descriptive enough. What do you wish to prevent or what happens when you
"lock" this file? If you just want to prevent other writers, you should be
able to open the file with no sharing enabled and I would think that the
network file system would do the right thing and prevent other machines from
accessing the file.

> Also, how can I detect if the network connected? couldn't find anything on
> that either.

When you say "connected"? You can tell if the network itself is hooked up
and, as far as Windows CE can tell, working by using network calls like
GetAdaptersInfo(), which OpenNETCF's Smart Device Framework already has
wrapped for you. You want to see if media state connected is set. Even if
that happens, however, there's no way to tell that your file open of a
network shared file will work, other than attempting it. That's pretty much
the way that all network stuff works...

Paul T.

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
com> wrote in message news:%23%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have a xml file on a shared folder(network, on NAS), which can be
>> write and read from any CE device that's attached to it.
>> I used WNetAddConnection3() to connect to the drive, which uses the SMB
>> protocol. This protocol supposely have a function
>> to do a lock on the file, but I can't find a API to do this. I have
>> search the newsgroups, but I can't find any for CE.
>>
>> Any knows how to do this?
>
> Be more specific about what you mean. "a lock on the file" isn't
> descriptive enough. What do you wish to prevent or what happens when you
> "lock" this file? If you just want to prevent other writers, you should
> be able to open the file with no sharing enabled and I would think that
> the network file system would do the right thing and prevent other
> machines from accessing the file.
>

yes, that's what I meant. since the file can be read and write to by any
machine,
I need to actually have a lock to prevent any access to it by any other
machine,
when I upate the file, I need to a read, modify and write operation on the
file,
a simple open with no share will not work, because the read is done by .net
XmlDocument.load(), which closes the file before the modify and write
operation.

Before I read this response, I was thinking about create a no share file
open using another file, and check this file before accessing another file,
but that's kind of a hack. I was hopefully there is a more "elegant" or
"real" solution.
Like in the unix world, they have flock();(at least after googling, that's
what it looks like)
(and yes, I'm not a network programmer. pretty much just learn to connect to
network drives a few weeks ago)


>> Also, how can I detect if the network connected? couldn't find anything
>> on that either.
>
> When you say "connected"? You can tell if the network itself is hooked up
> and, as far as Windows CE can tell, working by using network calls like
> GetAdaptersInfo(), which OpenNETCF's Smart Device Framework already has
> wrapped for you. You want to see if media state connected is set. Even
> if that happens, however, there's no way to tell that your file open of a
> network shared file will work, other than attempting it. That's pretty
> much the way that all network stuff works...

I am worrying the connection got disconnected, like someone yank the cable
or power off the network device(NAS) while the application is running.
So I want to check it before I attempt a access to it and prevent any
problem as much as possible.


>
> Paul T.
>
>

When you open the document for write with no sharing, that should prevent
anyone else from opening it, while you have it open. If someone else
already has it open for writing with no sharing, your attempt to open it for
writing should fail. Isn't that happening now? I suppose that you could
move away from XmlDocument and use something lower-level where you control
when the file is open. So, Load closes a stream that you pass it, when it's
done loading from that? I suppose that you could load the content of the
file into a String, keeping the file open, and pass the string to
XmlDocument.LoadXml(). I don't think there's any way to somehow create a
cross-platform synchronization, other than by a shared file.

On the network question, I suppose that you could try pinging a server that
you know will always be present and, if the ping fails, you don't try and if
it succeeds you do. Even if you do that, however, you still have to arrange
for sensible behavior on a network failure, as the network could be
disconnected between ping and the actual connection or, if it's a lengthy
process, during the process, rather than just before it starts. All of your
network code should assume that it will, at times, block for up to several
minutes. If it's code running in the same thread as the user interface, you
need to move it to a different thread or use asynchronous network I/O.
Ditto file I/O when the file might be across the network.

Paul T.

"swc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
> com> wrote in message news:%23%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I have a xml file on a shared folder(network, on NAS), which can be
>>> write and read from any CE device that's attached to it.
>>> I used WNetAddConnection3() to connect to the drive, which uses the SMB
>>> protocol. This protocol supposely have a function
>>> to do a lock on the file, but I can't find a API to do this. I have
>>> search the newsgroups, but I can't find any for CE.
>>>
>>> Any knows how to do this?
>>
>> Be more specific about what you mean. "a lock on the file" isn't
>> descriptive enough. What do you wish to prevent or what happens when you
>> "lock" this file? If you just want to prevent other writers, you should
>> be able to open the file with no sharing enabled and I would think that
>> the network file system would do the right thing and prevent other
>> machines from accessing the file.
>>
>
> yes, that's what I meant. since the file can be read and write to by any
> machine,
> I need to actually have a lock to prevent any access to it by any other
> machine,
> when I upate the file, I need to a read, modify and write operation on the
> file,
> a simple open with no share will not work, because the read is done by
> .net
> XmlDocument.load(), which closes the file before the modify and write
> operation.
>
> Before I read this response, I was thinking about create a no share file
> open using another file, and check this file before accessing another
> file,
> but that's kind of a hack. I was hopefully there is a more "elegant" or
> "real" solution.
> Like in the unix world, they have flock();(at least after googling, that's
> what it looks like)
> (and yes, I'm not a network programmer. pretty much just learn to connect
> to network drives a few weeks ago)
>
>
>>> Also, how can I detect if the network connected? couldn't find anything
>>> on that either.
>>
>> When you say "connected"? You can tell if the network itself is hooked
>> up and, as far as Windows CE can tell, working by using network calls
>> like GetAdaptersInfo(), which OpenNETCF's Smart Device Framework already
>> has wrapped for you. You want to see if media state connected is set.
>> Even if that happens, however, there's no way to tell that your file open
>> of a network shared file will work, other than attempting it. That's
>> pretty much the way that all network stuff works...
>
> I am worrying the connection got disconnected, like someone yank the cable
> or power off the network device(NAS) while the application is running.
> So I want to check it before I attempt a access to it and prevent any
> problem as much as possible.
>
>
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>>
>
>

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
com> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> When you open the document for write with no sharing, that should prevent
> anyone else from opening it, while you have it open. If someone else
> already has it open for writing with no sharing, your attempt to open it
> for writing should fail. Isn't that happening now? I suppose that you
> could move away from XmlDocument and use something lower-level where you
> control when the file is open. So, Load closes a stream that you pass it,
> when it's done loading from that? I suppose that you could load the
> content of the file into a String, keeping the file open, and pass the
> string to XmlDocument.LoadXml(). I don't think there's any way to somehow
> create a cross-platform synchronization, other than by a shared file.
>

That's good idea. thanks for the suggestion.


> On the network question, I suppose that you could try pinging a server
> that you know will always be present and, if the ping fails, you don't try
> and if it succeeds you do. Even if you do that, however, you still have
> to arrange for sensible behavior on a network failure, as the network
> could be disconnected between ping and the actual connection or, if it's a
> lengthy process, during the process, rather than just before it starts.
> All of your network code should assume that it will, at times, block for
> up to several minutes. If it's code running in the same thread as the
> user interface, you need to move it to a different thread or use
> asynchronous network I/O. Ditto file I/O when the file might be across the
> network.
>




> Paul T.
>
> "swc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam
>> DOT com> wrote in message
>> news:%23%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> I have a xml file on a shared folder(network, on NAS), which can be
>>>> write and read from any CE device that's attached to it.
>>>> I used WNetAddConnection3() to connect to the drive, which uses the SMB
>>>> protocol. This protocol supposely have a function
>>>> to do a lock on the file, but I can't find a API to do this. I have
>>>> search the newsgroups, but I can't find any for CE.
>>>>
>>>> Any knows how to do this?
>>>
>>> Be more specific about what you mean. "a lock on the file" isn't
>>> descriptive enough. What do you wish to prevent or what happens when
>>> you "lock" this file? If you just want to prevent other writers, you
>>> should be able to open the file with no sharing enabled and I would
>>> think that the network file system would do the right thing and prevent
>>> other machines from accessing the file.
>>>
>>
>> yes, that's what I meant. since the file can be read and write to by any
>> machine,
>> I need to actually have a lock to prevent any access to it by any other
>> machine,
>> when I upate the file, I need to a read, modify and write operation on
>> the file,
>> a simple open with no share will not work, because the read is done by
>> .net
>> XmlDocument.load(), which closes the file before the modify and write
>> operation.
>>
>> Before I read this response, I was thinking about create a no share file
>> open using another file, and check this file before accessing another
>> file,
>> but that's kind of a hack. I was hopefully there is a more "elegant" or
>> "real" solution.
>> Like in the unix world, they have flock();(at least after googling,
>> that's what it looks like)
>> (and yes, I'm not a network programmer. pretty much just learn to connect
>> to network drives a few weeks ago)
>>
>>
>>>> Also, how can I detect if the network connected? couldn't find anything
>>>> on that either.
>>>
>>> When you say "connected"? You can tell if the network itself is hooked
>>> up and, as far as Windows CE can tell, working by using network calls
>>> like GetAdaptersInfo(), which OpenNETCF's Smart Device Framework already
>>> has wrapped for you. You want to see if media state connected is set.
>>> Even if that happens, however, there's no way to tell that your file
>>> open of a network shared file will work, other than attempting it.
>>> That's pretty much the way that all network stuff works...
>>
>> I am worrying the connection got disconnected, like someone yank the
>> cable
>> or power off the network device(NAS) while the application is running.
>> So I want to check it before I attempt a access to it and prevent any
>> problem as much as possible.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Paul T.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>