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How do I disconnect a network card from a Network Bridge when the Network Bridge has already been deleted?

 
 
maru
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      4th Feb 2006
(Most of this has been posted before. I gave it a different subject tag in
the hope someone will take a look. Thanks.)

I'm running Windows XP Pro.
I have a 1394 connection and an Ethernet card (Linksys LNE100TX). The
Linksys is what I use to connect to the internet.
The Linksys says it is part of a Network Bridge, but the Network Bridge
itself is gone (because I deleted it thinking it would unbridge the
connections. It didn't.).

I want to get rid of the bridge so I can access the properties of my Linksys
connection again.

Steps I've already taken:
- uninstalled and reinstalled my network card numerous times using
different drivers
- Tried rebridging my two connections, but it won't let me create a new
bridge between them because it says one of them is being used by Internet
Connection Sharing.
- searched Microsoft.com
- searched Linksys.com
- Googled on Network Bridge
- searched many microsoft newsgroups

I have also physically removed the card, rebooted, and reinstalled the card
into a different slot. It still comes back up as bridged.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Mary



 
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Chuck
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      4th Feb 2006
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 12:35:34 -0500, "maru" <maryrud@.net> wrote:

>(Most of this has been posted before. I gave it a different subject tag in
>the hope someone will take a look. Thanks.)
>
>I'm running Windows XP Pro.
>I have a 1394 connection and an Ethernet card (Linksys LNE100TX). The
>Linksys is what I use to connect to the internet.
>The Linksys says it is part of a Network Bridge, but the Network Bridge
>itself is gone (because I deleted it thinking it would unbridge the
>connections. It didn't.).
>
>I want to get rid of the bridge so I can access the properties of my Linksys
>connection again.
>
>Steps I've already taken:
> - uninstalled and reinstalled my network card numerous times using
>different drivers
> - Tried rebridging my two connections, but it won't let me create a new
>bridge between them because it says one of them is being used by Internet
>Connection Sharing.
> - searched Microsoft.com
> - searched Linksys.com
> - Googled on Network Bridge
> - searched many microsoft newsgroups
>
>I have also physically removed the card, rebooted, and reinstalled the card
>into a different slot. It still comes back up as bridged.
>
>Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
>
>Mary


Mary,

Did you observe instructions from Microsoft:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=283429

Also, maybe Steve's article:
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...workbridge.htm

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Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
 
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Lars Hall
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      20th Feb 2006
I have exactly the same problem as Mary running XP home SP2 - and have tried
the same methods of repair... with no sucess at all..
Tech support from Medion (PC OEM manufacturer) and my ISP have both been
unable to help..
But this "undocumented feature" certainly exists.
The Microsoft instructions Chuck refers to describes how to prevent the
Network Setup Wizard from creating a network bridge. When you run the
Network Setup Wizard. Unfortunately they do not apply to this situation .-(
As Mary says any help would be appreciated.

Lars

"Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i en meddelelse
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 12:35:34 -0500, "maru" <maryrud@.net> wrote:
>
>>(Most of this has been posted before. I gave it a different subject tag in
>>the hope someone will take a look. Thanks.)
>>
>>I'm running Windows XP Pro.
>>I have a 1394 connection and an Ethernet card (Linksys LNE100TX). The
>>Linksys is what I use to connect to the internet.
>>The Linksys says it is part of a Network Bridge, but the Network Bridge
>>itself is gone (because I deleted it thinking it would unbridge the
>>connections. It didn't.).
>>
>>I want to get rid of the bridge so I can access the properties of my
>>Linksys
>>connection again.
>>
>>Steps I've already taken:
>> - uninstalled and reinstalled my network card numerous times using
>>different drivers
>> - Tried rebridging my two connections, but it won't let me create a new
>>bridge between them because it says one of them is being used by Internet
>>Connection Sharing.
>> - searched Microsoft.com
>> - searched Linksys.com
>> - Googled on Network Bridge
>> - searched many microsoft newsgroups
>>
>>I have also physically removed the card, rebooted, and reinstalled the
>>card
>>into a different slot. It still comes back up as bridged.
>>
>>Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
>>
>>Mary

>
> Mary,
>
> Did you observe instructions from Microsoft:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=283429
>
> Also, maybe Steve's article:
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...workbridge.htm
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.



 
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      2nd May 2006
Hi,
I have exactly the same problem, did you ever resolve this issue?


"Lars Hall" wrote:

> I have exactly the same problem as Mary running XP home SP2 - and have tried
> the same methods of repair... with no sucess at all..
> Tech support from Medion (PC OEM manufacturer) and my ISP have both been
> unable to help..
> But this "undocumented feature" certainly exists.
> The Microsoft instructions Chuck refers to describes how to prevent the
> Network Setup Wizard from creating a network bridge. When you run the
> Network Setup Wizard. Unfortunately they do not apply to this situation .-(
> As Mary says any help would be appreciated.
>
> Lars
>
> "Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i en meddelelse
> news(E-Mail Removed)...
> > On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 12:35:34 -0500, "maru" <maryrud@.net> wrote:
> >
> >>(Most of this has been posted before. I gave it a different subject tag in
> >>the hope someone will take a look. Thanks.)
> >>
> >>I'm running Windows XP Pro.
> >>I have a 1394 connection and an Ethernet card (Linksys LNE100TX). The
> >>Linksys is what I use to connect to the internet.
> >>The Linksys says it is part of a Network Bridge, but the Network Bridge
> >>itself is gone (because I deleted it thinking it would unbridge the
> >>connections. It didn't.).
> >>
> >>I want to get rid of the bridge so I can access the properties of my
> >>Linksys
> >>connection again.
> >>
> >>Steps I've already taken:
> >> - uninstalled and reinstalled my network card numerous times using
> >>different drivers
> >> - Tried rebridging my two connections, but it won't let me create a new
> >>bridge between them because it says one of them is being used by Internet
> >>Connection Sharing.
> >> - searched Microsoft.com
> >> - searched Linksys.com
> >> - Googled on Network Bridge
> >> - searched many microsoft newsgroups
> >>
> >>I have also physically removed the card, rebooted, and reinstalled the
> >>card
> >>into a different slot. It still comes back up as bridged.
> >>
> >>Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
> >>
> >>Mary

> >
> > Mary,
> >
> > Did you observe instructions from Microsoft:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=283429
> >
> > Also, maybe Steve's article:
> > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...workbridge.htm
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> > My email is AT DOT
> > actual address pchuck mvps org.

>
>
>

 
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      2nd May 2006
Sorry to say no - the problem was never resolved.
I had - for reasons probably unrelated to this issue - to format and
reinstall (or rather reestablish factory condition from a recovery CD.)
After updating through Microsoft Update network connections are now shown
separately and without a bridge.
I do however have two possible "suspects" in the case:
- an "undocumented feature" in a Microsoft update for creating the bridge in
the first place, possibly in combination with
- incomplete advise from a support program from my ISP that advised me to
delete the network bridge but forgot to mention that removing the network
connections from the bridge (prior to deleting it) would be a good idea.
Sorry I can't be of any help - however if You (or anybody else with this
problem) still have free support incidents with Microsoft on your Windows
installation this could be the issue to use it on.
After all - the problem definetely exists, no published solutions seems to
be available through MS KB articles on on the web in general ..
In this case (for me at least) the drawbacks of buying preinstalled (OEM)
with limeted support capability (compared to Microsoft) have been obvious.

Yours
Lars


"mick" wrote:

> Hi,
> I have exactly the same problem, did you ever resolve this issue?
>
>
> "Lars Hall" wrote:
>
> > I have exactly the same problem as Mary running XP home SP2 - and have tried
> > the same methods of repair... with no sucess at all..
> > Tech support from Medion (PC OEM manufacturer) and my ISP have both been
> > unable to help..
> > But this "undocumented feature" certainly exists.
> > The Microsoft instructions Chuck refers to describes how to prevent the
> > Network Setup Wizard from creating a network bridge. When you run the
> > Network Setup Wizard. Unfortunately they do not apply to this situation .-(
> > As Mary says any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Lars
> >
> > "Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i en meddelelse
> > news(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 12:35:34 -0500, "maru" <maryrud@.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >>(Most of this has been posted before. I gave it a different subject tag in
> > >>the hope someone will take a look. Thanks.)
> > >>
> > >>I'm running Windows XP Pro.
> > >>I have a 1394 connection and an Ethernet card (Linksys LNE100TX). The
> > >>Linksys is what I use to connect to the internet.
> > >>The Linksys says it is part of a Network Bridge, but the Network Bridge
> > >>itself is gone (because I deleted it thinking it would unbridge the
> > >>connections. It didn't.).
> > >>
> > >>I want to get rid of the bridge so I can access the properties of my
> > >>Linksys
> > >>connection again.
> > >>
> > >>Steps I've already taken:
> > >> - uninstalled and reinstalled my network card numerous times using
> > >>different drivers
> > >> - Tried rebridging my two connections, but it won't let me create a new
> > >>bridge between them because it says one of them is being used by Internet
> > >>Connection Sharing.
> > >> - searched Microsoft.com
> > >> - searched Linksys.com
> > >> - Googled on Network Bridge
> > >> - searched many microsoft newsgroups
> > >>
> > >>I have also physically removed the card, rebooted, and reinstalled the
> > >>card
> > >>into a different slot. It still comes back up as bridged.
> > >>
> > >>Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
> > >>
> > >>Mary
> > >
> > > Mary,
> > >
> > > Did you observe instructions from Microsoft:
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=283429
> > >
> > > Also, maybe Steve's article:
> > > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...workbridge.htm
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> > > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> > > My email is AT DOT
> > > actual address pchuck mvps org.

> >
> >
> >

 
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      10th May 2006
I raised a problem with MS and guess what... they said re-install Windows. I
ask you.. how do they get away with it?

"Lars Hall" wrote:

> Sorry to say no - the problem was never resolved.
> I had - for reasons probably unrelated to this issue - to format and
> reinstall (or rather reestablish factory condition from a recovery CD.)
> After updating through Microsoft Update network connections are now shown
> separately and without a bridge.
> I do however have two possible "suspects" in the case:
> - an "undocumented feature" in a Microsoft update for creating the bridge in
> the first place, possibly in combination with
> - incomplete advise from a support program from my ISP that advised me to
> delete the network bridge but forgot to mention that removing the network
> connections from the bridge (prior to deleting it) would be a good idea.
> Sorry I can't be of any help - however if You (or anybody else with this
> problem) still have free support incidents with Microsoft on your Windows
> installation this could be the issue to use it on.
> After all - the problem definetely exists, no published solutions seems to
> be available through MS KB articles on on the web in general ..
> In this case (for me at least) the drawbacks of buying preinstalled (OEM)
> with limeted support capability (compared to Microsoft) have been obvious.
>
> Yours
> Lars
>
>
> "mick" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I have exactly the same problem, did you ever resolve this issue?
> >
> >
> > "Lars Hall" wrote:
> >
> > > I have exactly the same problem as Mary running XP home SP2 - and have tried
> > > the same methods of repair... with no sucess at all..
> > > Tech support from Medion (PC OEM manufacturer) and my ISP have both been
> > > unable to help..
> > > But this "undocumented feature" certainly exists.
> > > The Microsoft instructions Chuck refers to describes how to prevent the
> > > Network Setup Wizard from creating a network bridge. When you run the
> > > Network Setup Wizard. Unfortunately they do not apply to this situation .-(
> > > As Mary says any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Lars
> > >
> > > "Chuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i en meddelelse
> > > news(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 12:35:34 -0500, "maru" <maryrud@.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>(Most of this has been posted before. I gave it a different subject tag in
> > > >>the hope someone will take a look. Thanks.)
> > > >>
> > > >>I'm running Windows XP Pro.
> > > >>I have a 1394 connection and an Ethernet card (Linksys LNE100TX). The
> > > >>Linksys is what I use to connect to the internet.
> > > >>The Linksys says it is part of a Network Bridge, but the Network Bridge
> > > >>itself is gone (because I deleted it thinking it would unbridge the
> > > >>connections. It didn't.).
> > > >>
> > > >>I want to get rid of the bridge so I can access the properties of my
> > > >>Linksys
> > > >>connection again.
> > > >>
> > > >>Steps I've already taken:
> > > >> - uninstalled and reinstalled my network card numerous times using
> > > >>different drivers
> > > >> - Tried rebridging my two connections, but it won't let me create a new
> > > >>bridge between them because it says one of them is being used by Internet
> > > >>Connection Sharing.
> > > >> - searched Microsoft.com
> > > >> - searched Linksys.com
> > > >> - Googled on Network Bridge
> > > >> - searched many microsoft newsgroups
> > > >>
> > > >>I have also physically removed the card, rebooted, and reinstalled the
> > > >>card
> > > >>into a different slot. It still comes back up as bridged.
> > > >>
> > > >>Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
> > > >>
> > > >>Mary
> > > >
> > > > Mary,
> > > >
> > > > Did you observe instructions from Microsoft:
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=283429
> > > >
> > > > Also, maybe Steve's article:
> > > > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...workbridge.htm
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> > > > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> > > > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> > > > My email is AT DOT
> > > > actual address pchuck mvps org.
> > >
> > >
> > >

 
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      11th May 2006


"maru" wrote:

> (Most of this has been posted before. I gave it a different subject tag in
> the hope someone will take a look. Thanks.)
>
> I'm running Windows XP Pro.
> I have a 1394 connection and an Ethernet card (Linksys LNE100TX). The
> Linksys is what I use to connect to the internet.
> The Linksys says it is part of a Network Bridge, but the Network Bridge
> itself is gone (because I deleted it thinking it would unbridge the
> connections. It didn't.).
>
> I want to get rid of the bridge so I can access the properties of my Linksys
> connection again.
>
> Steps I've already taken:
> - uninstalled and reinstalled my network card numerous times using
> different drivers
> - Tried rebridging my two connections, but it won't let me create a new
> bridge between them because it says one of them is being used by Internet
> Connection Sharing.
> - searched Microsoft.com
> - searched Linksys.com
> - Googled on Network Bridge
> - searched many microsoft newsgroups
>
> I have also physically removed the card, rebooted, and reinstalled the card
> into a different slot. It still comes back up as bridged.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>


I have resolved the problem. The key is to define 2 network adapters that
aren't bridged. Once you have done this then the act of bridging the new
connections fixes the problem. The missing network bridge appears and all
your adapters have the 'remove from bridge' available.

I used vmware to install 2 virtual network adapters.
 
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