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      16th Nov 2004
I have a USB NAS adapter that will not let me write to it. If I attach the
drive to the computer's USB port I can write to it. When I attach the same
drive to the NAS adapter, I can read the files, but I can't write to it.

How do I change permissions?

I've tried turning off simple sharing, but I don't see that as an option
where Mcirosoft said it would be. I've looked all over the web for help and
MS windows "Help" to no avail any suggestions?
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      16th Nov 2004
"phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:F1E7A206-9F96-4256-B8EE-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a USB NAS adapter that will not let me write to it. If I attach the
> drive to the computer's USB port I can write to it. When I attach the same
> drive to the NAS adapter, I can read the files, but I can't write to it.
>
> How do I change permissions?
>
> I've tried turning off simple sharing, but I don't see that as an option
> where Mcirosoft said it would be. I've looked all over the web for help
> and
> MS windows "Help" to no avail any suggestions?
> --
> M_Roberts
> Research causes cancer in rats.


What exact model of device are you using?

I've read about this problem recently, and I can't remember where.
I've just looked through all my usual sources, and I can't find it.
If I come across it, I'll re-post better info.

But the bottom line seemed to be with the drive in NTFS, you got the problem
you describe.
With the drive formatted as FAT, it works.

It seemed to be an actual issue with the device, not a user error type of
thing.

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Best Regards,
Ron Lowe
MS-MVP Windows Networking


 
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      16th Nov 2004
It is a Dlink DNS-120. The USB drive attached to it performs as read-only
when formatted as NTFS, but reads and writes formatted as FAT32. The problem
with FAT32 is that I'm limited by Western Digital's Utility to a max
partition size of just over 34.4MB on a 250GB hard drive. The idea in
getting this setup was to perform backups on my home network. I have six
computers all running Windows XP Home edition. I'd rather have one logical
drive than eight.

"Ron Lowe" wrote:

> "phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:F1E7A206-9F96-4256-B8EE-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have a USB NAS adapter that will not let me write to it. If I attach the
> > drive to the computer's USB port I can write to it. When I attach the same
> > drive to the NAS adapter, I can read the files, but I can't write to it.
> >
> > How do I change permissions?
> >
> > I've tried turning off simple sharing, but I don't see that as an option
> > where Mcirosoft said it would be. I've looked all over the web for help
> > and
> > MS windows "Help" to no avail any suggestions?
> > --
> > M_Roberts
> > Research causes cancer in rats.

>
> What exact model of device are you using?
>
> I've read about this problem recently, and I can't remember where.
> I've just looked through all my usual sources, and I can't find it.
> If I come across it, I'll re-post better info.
>
> But the bottom line seemed to be with the drive in NTFS, you got the problem
> you describe.
> With the drive formatted as FAT, it works.
>
> It seemed to be an actual issue with the device, not a user error type of
> thing.
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Ron Lowe
> MS-MVP Windows Networking
>
>
>

 
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      17th Nov 2004
"phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<F1A864B7-585B-4231-8571-(E-Mail Removed)>...
> It is a Dlink DNS-120. The USB drive attached to it performs as read-only
> when formatted as NTFS, but reads and writes formatted as FAT32. The problem
> with FAT32 is that I'm limited by Western Digital's Utility to a max
> partition size of just over 34.4MB on a 250GB hard drive. The idea in
> getting this setup was to perform backups on my home network. I have six
> computers all running Windows XP Home edition. I'd rather have one logical
> drive than eight.
>
> "Ron Lowe" wrote:
>
> > "phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:F1E7A206-9F96-4256-B8EE-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >I have a USB NAS adapter that will not let me write to it. If I attach the
> > > drive to the computer's USB port I can write to it. When I attach the same
> > > drive to the NAS adapter, I can read the files, but I can't write to it.
> > >
> > > How do I change permissions?
> > >
> > > I've tried turning off simple sharing, but I don't see that as an option
> > > where Mcirosoft said it would be. I've looked all over the web for help
> > > and
> > > MS windows "Help" to no avail any suggestions?
> > > --
> > > M_Roberts
> > > Research causes cancer in rats.

> >
> > What exact model of device are you using?
> >
> > I've read about this problem recently, and I can't remember where.
> > I've just looked through all my usual sources, and I can't find it.
> > If I come across it, I'll re-post better info.
> >
> > But the bottom line seemed to be with the drive in NTFS, you got the problem
> > you describe.
> > With the drive formatted as FAT, it works.
> >
> > It seemed to be an actual issue with the device, not a user error type of
> > thing.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > Ron Lowe
> > MS-MVP Windows Networking
> >
> >
> >


I have the same device and after an hour on the phone with Dlink tech
support, I was told that they do not support writing to a NTFS
formatted drive. They tech rep asked me to format my Maxtor One Touch
II 300gig drive into 32gig partions. I hope this is not the case,
because this makes the DNS-120 useless. I have emailed DLink's tech
support to see if I get a different answer.
 
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      17th Nov 2004
I was bumped to Tier 3 level support. Tavarus WAS helping me, but he's only
there from 9am to 6pm PST. I work from 8:30 to 5:30 PST, so in order to speak
to him I have to take off from work. I've emailed Tavarus twice now. He was
going to call me back after an hour last Wednesday. It's now a week later and
still no word. He was under the impression it should work with NTFS formatted
disks, I too don't want a bunch of 32GB logical drives on my 250GB Western
Digital. Supposedly they were able to get a 250GB Segate to work, but I don't
know if that was NTFS or FAT32.

"Dan" wrote:

> "phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<F1A864B7-585B-4231-8571-(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > It is a Dlink DNS-120. The USB drive attached to it performs as read-only
> > when formatted as NTFS, but reads and writes formatted as FAT32. The problem
> > with FAT32 is that I'm limited by Western Digital's Utility to a max
> > partition size of just over 34.4MB on a 250GB hard drive. The idea in
> > getting this setup was to perform backups on my home network. I have six
> > computers all running Windows XP Home edition. I'd rather have one logical
> > drive than eight.
> >
> > "Ron Lowe" wrote:
> >
> > > "phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:F1E7A206-9F96-4256-B8EE-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > >I have a USB NAS adapter that will not let me write to it. If I attach the
> > > > drive to the computer's USB port I can write to it. When I attach the same
> > > > drive to the NAS adapter, I can read the files, but I can't write to it.
> > > >
> > > > How do I change permissions?
> > > >
> > > > I've tried turning off simple sharing, but I don't see that as an option
> > > > where Mcirosoft said it would be. I've looked all over the web for help
> > > > and
> > > > MS windows "Help" to no avail any suggestions?
> > > > --
> > > > M_Roberts
> > > > Research causes cancer in rats.
> > >
> > > What exact model of device are you using?
> > >
> > > I've read about this problem recently, and I can't remember where.
> > > I've just looked through all my usual sources, and I can't find it.
> > > If I come across it, I'll re-post better info.
> > >
> > > But the bottom line seemed to be with the drive in NTFS, you got the problem
> > > you describe.
> > > With the drive formatted as FAT, it works.
> > >
> > > It seemed to be an actual issue with the device, not a user error type of
> > > thing.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Ron Lowe
> > > MS-MVP Windows Networking
> > >
> > >
> > >

>
> I have the same device and after an hour on the phone with Dlink tech
> support, I was told that they do not support writing to a NTFS
> formatted drive. They tech rep asked me to format my Maxtor One Touch
> II 300gig drive into 32gig partions. I hope this is not the case,
> because this makes the DNS-120 useless. I have emailed DLink's tech
> support to see if I get a different answer.
>

 
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      19th Nov 2004
This is a reply from dlink sent this morning. I guess they've had lots of
complaints.

Date of Reply: 11/19/2004 6:36:16 AM

Products: DNS-120
Operating System: Windows XP Home


We are aware of this issue. The issue to manipulate the files only happens
when the drives are formatted in NTFS. We have turned the problem over to the
engineering department. Please stay posted to the Website for updates.

If you are looking for live 24/7 Technical Support please call
1-877-45D-Link (1-877-453-5465).

Should you require further assistance with your D-Link products, please
reply to this message, or call toll free at 877-453-5465. Thank you for
networking with D-Link.

Sincerely,
Gary Holcomb

D-Link Technical Support


"Dan" wrote:

> "phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<F1A864B7-585B-4231-8571-(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > It is a Dlink DNS-120. The USB drive attached to it performs as read-only
> > when formatted as NTFS, but reads and writes formatted as FAT32. The problem
> > with FAT32 is that I'm limited by Western Digital's Utility to a max
> > partition size of just over 34.4MB on a 250GB hard drive. The idea in
> > getting this setup was to perform backups on my home network. I have six
> > computers all running Windows XP Home edition. I'd rather have one logical
> > drive than eight.
> >
> > "Ron Lowe" wrote:
> >
> > > "phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:F1E7A206-9F96-4256-B8EE-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > >I have a USB NAS adapter that will not let me write to it. If I attach the
> > > > drive to the computer's USB port I can write to it. When I attach the same
> > > > drive to the NAS adapter, I can read the files, but I can't write to it.
> > > >
> > > > How do I change permissions?
> > > >
> > > > I've tried turning off simple sharing, but I don't see that as an option
> > > > where Mcirosoft said it would be. I've looked all over the web for help
> > > > and
> > > > MS windows "Help" to no avail any suggestions?
> > > > --
> > > > M_Roberts
> > > > Research causes cancer in rats.
> > >
> > > What exact model of device are you using?
> > >
> > > I've read about this problem recently, and I can't remember where.
> > > I've just looked through all my usual sources, and I can't find it.
> > > If I come across it, I'll re-post better info.
> > >
> > > But the bottom line seemed to be with the drive in NTFS, you got the problem
> > > you describe.
> > > With the drive formatted as FAT, it works.
> > >
> > > It seemed to be an actual issue with the device, not a user error type of
> > > thing.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Ron Lowe
> > > MS-MVP Windows Networking
> > >
> > >
> > >

>
> I have the same device and after an hour on the phone with Dlink tech
> support, I was told that they do not support writing to a NTFS
> formatted drive. They tech rep asked me to format my Maxtor One Touch
> II 300gig drive into 32gig partions. I hope this is not the case,
> because this makes the DNS-120 useless. I have emailed DLink's tech
> support to see if I get a different answer.
>

 
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      23rd Nov 2004
"phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<DDB933AC-CE46-41F8-9037-(E-Mail Removed)>...
> This is a reply from dlink sent this morning. I guess they've had lots of
> complaints.
>
> Date of Reply: 11/19/2004 6:36:16 AM
>
> Products: DNS-120
> Operating System: Windows XP Home
>
>
> We are aware of this issue. The issue to manipulate the files only happens
> when the drives are formatted in NTFS. We have turned the problem over to the
> engineering department. Please stay posted to the Website for updates.
>
> If you are looking for live 24/7 Technical Support please call
> 1-877-45D-Link (1-877-453-5465).
>
> Should you require further assistance with your D-Link products, please
> reply to this message, or call toll free at 877-453-5465. Thank you for
> networking with D-Link.
>
> Sincerely,
> Gary Holcomb
>
> D-Link Technical Support
>
>
> "Dan" wrote:
>
> > "phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<F1A864B7-585B-4231-8571-(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > It is a Dlink DNS-120. The USB drive attached to it performs as read-only
> > > when formatted as NTFS, but reads and writes formatted as FAT32. The problem
> > > with FAT32 is that I'm limited by Western Digital's Utility to a max
> > > partition size of just over 34.4MB on a 250GB hard drive. The idea in
> > > getting this setup was to perform backups on my home network. I have six
> > > computers all running Windows XP Home edition. I'd rather have one logical
> > > drive than eight.
> > >
> > > "Ron Lowe" wrote:
> > >
> > > > "phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:F1E7A206-9F96-4256-B8EE-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > >I have a USB NAS adapter that will not let me write to it. If I attach the
> > > > > drive to the computer's USB port I can write to it. When I attach the same
> > > > > drive to the NAS adapter, I can read the files, but I can't write to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > How do I change permissions?
> > > > >
> > > > > I've tried turning off simple sharing, but I don't see that as an option
> > > > > where Mcirosoft said it would be. I've looked all over the web for help
> > > > > and
> > > > > MS windows "Help" to no avail any suggestions?
> > > > > --
> > > > > M_Roberts
> > > > > Research causes cancer in rats.
> > > >
> > > > What exact model of device are you using?
> > > >
> > > > I've read about this problem recently, and I can't remember where.
> > > > I've just looked through all my usual sources, and I can't find it.
> > > > If I come across it, I'll re-post better info.
> > > >
> > > > But the bottom line seemed to be with the drive in NTFS, you got the problem
> > > > you describe.
> > > > With the drive formatted as FAT, it works.
> > > >
> > > > It seemed to be an actual issue with the device, not a user error type of
> > > > thing.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Ron Lowe
> > > > MS-MVP Windows Networking
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> > I have the same device and after an hour on the phone with Dlink tech
> > support, I was told that they do not support writing to a NTFS
> > formatted drive. They tech rep asked me to format my Maxtor One Touch
> > II 300gig drive into 32gig partions. I hope this is not the case,
> > because this makes the DNS-120 useless. I have emailed DLink's tech
> > support to see if I get a different answer.
> >


Right now, the Linux is hard to sopport NTFS write access. It is
dangerous.
You can visit http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/status.html for
detail.
The most NAS in the world used Linux OS.

And, if you want to use the big partition ( >32giga) for your usb
harddrive.
Maybe you can consider to use Acronis PartitionExpert 2003 , Paragon
Partition Manager 2000 , PartitionMagic ,The Partition Resizer or
Syncronys BigDisk to format a harddrive with FAT32.

In my point of view, FAT32 can be used by Any Windows/OS, but NTFS
can't.

Hope it is useful for you.
 
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      28th Nov 2004
This is my answer from Dlink and my reply. BTW they now admit on their site
that NTFS foramtted drives are not supported:
Tavarus,

I received the following auto response in reference to Case ID:
TSC395211398, after being told the same thing:

“Dear Michael Roberts,

D-Link technical support has determined that your DNS-120 is defective and
should be returned to the point of purchase for either a refund or
replacement.

Your retailer may charge restocking fees when requesting refunds. D-Link is
not responsible for fees charged by the retailer, nor will they be reimbursed
under any circumstance.

If you cannot return the product to the point of purchase, you can arrange
to have the product replaced by D-Link. In order to have your product
replaced by D-Link you will need to have your Case ID changed to RMA status.
To change your Case ID status, please call D-Link technical support at
1-877-45D-Link.

Important: You must supply your Case ID, TSC395211398, when requesting a
Case ID status change.”

This was when I formatted my Western Digital 250GB as FAT32 using CompuApps’
SwissKnifeV3. This allowed me to make partitions larger than the 34.4GB FAT32
limit of the Western Digital Data Lifeguard utility. However, when using “My
Computer” to try to open the drive on the DNS-120, “My Computer” locked up
after several minutes of trying to open the large partition formatted with
SwissKnifeV3. I could use the drive formatted as 250GB FAT32 when connected
directly to the computer’s USB port with no problem. Is there a partition
size limit with the DNS-120 as well as not using NTFS?

I just used Western Digital’s Life Guard to partition the 250GB drive in to
8 partitions of 34.4GB or less and “My Computer” opened the partition
immediately and I could write to it. Will I have to spend $50 on Partition
Commander to get my 250GB drive to work as one partition or am I stuck with 8
tiny partitions?

I believe Dlink should provide a partition utility with their product since
compatibility with Windows XP is stated on the box and Windows XP DOES NOT
support formatting a USB drive as anything but NTFS.

A not so happy customer.

Michael Roberts


PS You did not call me as promised nearly two weeks ago.


"Aragorn" wrote:

> "phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<DDB933AC-CE46-41F8-9037-(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > This is a reply from dlink sent this morning. I guess they've had lots of
> > complaints.
> >
> > Date of Reply: 11/19/2004 6:36:16 AM
> >
> > Products: DNS-120
> > Operating System: Windows XP Home
> >
> >
> > We are aware of this issue. The issue to manipulate the files only happens
> > when the drives are formatted in NTFS. We have turned the problem over to the
> > engineering department. Please stay posted to the Website for updates.
> >
> > If you are looking for live 24/7 Technical Support please call
> > 1-877-45D-Link (1-877-453-5465).
> >
> > Should you require further assistance with your D-Link products, please
> > reply to this message, or call toll free at 877-453-5465. Thank you for
> > networking with D-Link.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Gary Holcomb
> >
> > D-Link Technical Support
> >
> >
> > "Dan" wrote:
> >
> > > "phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<F1A864B7-585B-4231-8571-(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > It is a Dlink DNS-120. The USB drive attached to it performs as read-only
> > > > when formatted as NTFS, but reads and writes formatted as FAT32. The problem
> > > > with FAT32 is that I'm limited by Western Digital's Utility to a max
> > > > partition size of just over 34.4MB on a 250GB hard drive. The idea in
> > > > getting this setup was to perform backups on my home network. I have six
> > > > computers all running Windows XP Home edition. I'd rather have one logical
> > > > drive than eight.
> > > >
> > > > "Ron Lowe" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "phunfoto-lvnv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:F1E7A206-9F96-4256-B8EE-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > >I have a USB NAS adapter that will not let me write to it. If I attach the
> > > > > > drive to the computer's USB port I can write to it. When I attach the same
> > > > > > drive to the NAS adapter, I can read the files, but I can't write to it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do I change permissions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tried turning off simple sharing, but I don't see that as an option
> > > > > > where Mcirosoft said it would be. I've looked all over the web for help
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > MS windows "Help" to no avail any suggestions?
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > M_Roberts
> > > > > > Research causes cancer in rats.
> > > > >
> > > > > What exact model of device are you using?
> > > > >
> > > > > I've read about this problem recently, and I can't remember where.
> > > > > I've just looked through all my usual sources, and I can't find it.
> > > > > If I come across it, I'll re-post better info.
> > > > >
> > > > > But the bottom line seemed to be with the drive in NTFS, you got the problem
> > > > > you describe.
> > > > > With the drive formatted as FAT, it works.
> > > > >
> > > > > It seemed to be an actual issue with the device, not a user error type of
> > > > > thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > Ron Lowe
> > > > > MS-MVP Windows Networking
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > I have the same device and after an hour on the phone with Dlink tech
> > > support, I was told that they do not support writing to a NTFS
> > > formatted drive. They tech rep asked me to format my Maxtor One Touch
> > > II 300gig drive into 32gig partions. I hope this is not the case,
> > > because this makes the DNS-120 useless. I have emailed DLink's tech
> > > support to see if I get a different answer.
> > >

>
> Right now, the Linux is hard to sopport NTFS write access. It is
> dangerous.
> You can visit http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/status.html for
> detail.
> The most NAS in the world used Linux OS.
>
> And, if you want to use the big partition ( >32giga) for your usb
> harddrive.
> Maybe you can consider to use Acronis PartitionExpert 2003 , Paragon
> Partition Manager 2000 , PartitionMagic ,The Partition Resizer or
> Syncronys BigDisk to format a harddrive with FAT32.
>
> In my point of view, FAT32 can be used by Any Windows/OS, but NTFS
> can't.
>
> Hope it is useful for you.
>

 
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