When I mark new email as junk mail I want to have it automatically deleted.
I have not figured out a way to do that with the rules wizard--only
previously identified junk is automatically deleted after setting up the rule.

In OL2003, tools>options>preferences tab>junk e-mail. Check "permanently
delete...........".

Be sure first that the filter isn't ever catching any mail that's not really
junk.

HTH

Mark

"K in MD" <K in (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> When I mark new email as junk mail I want to have it automatically
> deleted.
> I have not figured out a way to do that with the rules wizard--only
> previously identified junk is automatically deleted after setting up the
> rule.

K in MD <K in (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> When I mark new email as junk mail I want to have it automatically
> deleted.

There is no mechanism in Outlook that allows you to mark a message as junk.
If you have such a button, it's not Outlook's, but an add-in you have, like
Norton Antispam.
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Brian Tillman

Well there are the right click options; I wonder if that's what he's
referring to. I have a feeling it's not OL2003 he has though, but as he
doesn't tell us his version........

Mark

"Brian Tillman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>K in MD <K in (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> When I mark new email as junk mail I want to have it automatically
>> deleted.
>
> There is no mechanism in Outlook that allows you to mark a message as
> junk. If you have such a button, it's not Outlook's, but an add-in you
> have, like Norton Antispam.
> --
> Brian Tillman

"K in MD" <K in (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> When I mark new email as junk mail I want to have it automatically
> deleted.
> I have not figured out a way to do that with the rules wizard--only
> previously identified junk is automatically deleted after setting up the
> rule.


You are the only person in the entire world that as a 100% perfect spam
filter. Everyone else gets to use one that might generate false positives
(i.e., good mail that gets tagged as spam). A safer solution would be:

- Set auto-archive on the Junk folder to permanently delete after 1 day.
- Enable the global auto-archive function, and set to run every 1 day. If
you leave this set to its default of running every 14 days, the 1-day old
crap sitting in your Junk folder will accumulate until the auto-archive
function is ran every 2 weeks (i.e., you'll have 2 weeks of junk instead of
just one day's worth). The scheduled interval for Auto-Archive should be
equal to the shortest auto-archive interval you configure for your folders
(or as short as the global interval if that is all you use).
- Turn OFF the Preview pane for the Junk folder.
- Enable AutoPreview on the Junk folder (shows first few lines of an item
but only as plain-text).
- Use OL2003's junk filtering or something better, like SpamPal, to move
suspect items tagged as spam into the Junk folder.
- Optionally configure whatever rule moves the mail into the Junk folder to
also mark it as read (in case you don't want to see that folder bolded when
new suspect mails arrive).

Then, when you get an e-mail that you are expecting, you can recover from
your setup tagging it as spam because you'll have a day to grab it out of
the Junk folder. Say you order something online and they send you a copy of
the purchase order in an e-mail. Often these get tagged as spam, but you
really do want a copy to keep for your records, especially if it is
downloaded software with instructions and codes needed to download it again
if you lose your copy or it gets corrupted. Same for any e-mails sent by
family and friends that happen to get falsely tagged as spam. Maybe Mom
goes to DisneyWorld and sends you a greeting mail from Epcot but it gets
detected as spam.

All anti-spam mechanisms produce false positives, even C-R
(challenge-response) schemes. Do you really want to permanently delete it
and have no way to recover it? Move it into the Junk folder, optionally
mark it as read, and automatically delete the junk after a day.

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Mark R Penn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Well there are the right click options; I wonder if that's what he's
> referring to. I have a feeling it's not OL2003 he has though, but as
> he doesn't tell us his version........

But those right-click options don't mark a message as junk. They manipulate
the blocked and safe senders lists.
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Brian Tillman

Well to a user who doesn't know the correct terminology, or care how it
actually works, they could be seen as marking the message as junk - you take
an action there, and the message gets moved to the junk folder, so "marking
it as junk" wouldn't be an unreasonable interpretation I think.

Also, I seem to remember that in OL XP it was different, and there was a
specific "Mark as Junk" option, but it's a while since I used XP so I'm not
sure.

Mark

"Brian Tillman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Mark R Penn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Well there are the right click options; I wonder if that's what he's
>> referring to. I have a feeling it's not OL2003 he has though, but as
>> he doesn't tell us his version........
>
> But those right-click options don't mark a message as junk. They
> manipulate the blocked and safe senders lists.
> --
> Brian Tillman

Mark R Penn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Also, I seem to remember that in OL XP it was different, and there
> was a specific "Mark as Junk" option, but it's a while since I used
> XP so I'm not sure.

There is no such feature in any Outlook version. In OL 2002, the so-called
junk mail filter did nothing more than color the subject line of suspect
messages.
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Brian Tillman

Thank you. I thought this was the case. I can mark the messages as Junk but
there is no way to have them then be automatically deleted. Oh well.

"Brian Tillman" wrote:

> Mark R Penn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Also, I seem to remember that in OL XP it was different, and there
> > was a specific "Mark as Junk" option, but it's a while since I used
> > XP so I'm not sure.
>
> There is no such feature in any Outlook version. In OL 2002, the so-called
> junk mail filter did nothing more than color the subject line of suspect
> messages.
> --
> Brian Tillman
>
>

You could upgrade to OL2003, as that has a junk filter.

Mark

"K in MD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thank you. I thought this was the case. I can mark the messages as Junk
> but
> there is no way to have them then be automatically deleted. Oh well.
>
> "Brian Tillman" wrote:
>
>> Mark R Penn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> > Also, I seem to remember that in OL XP it was different, and there
>> > was a specific "Mark as Junk" option, but it's a while since I used
>> > XP so I'm not sure.
>>
>> There is no such feature in any Outlook version. In OL 2002, the
>> so-called
>> junk mail filter did nothing more than color the subject line of suspect
>> messages.
>> --
>> Brian Tillman
>>
>>