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xanadumoon
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      29th Jul 2003
Hello,

A friend wants me to arrange his computer so he can host
multiple sites with 1 IP adress. He has already 5 IP
adresses & 5 registered domain names which are mapped to
each other. Now, do I have to contact the place he bought
the domain names and tell them to remap those 5 names to a
single IP adress, or can I handle this by setting up DNS
on the client's Windows 200 machine and create mappings
here? Or is there another alternative easier way?

Thanks
 
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xanadumoon
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      29th Jul 2003
Hello Herb,

First of all thanks a lot for your quick response, that is
really so kind of you.

And another question, just to be sure, let's say that I
have contacted the DNS admin and told him to route all of
the 5 domain names to a single IP adress. And afterwords I
had setup the host headers in the IIS for each site. Is
this all I have to do? Are there any other imortant things
to setup as well? And a final question, under a single IP
adress how many sites should I host maximum? What is the
safest number?

Thanks

>-----Original Message-----
>> A friend wants me to arrange his computer so he can host
>> multiple sites with 1 IP adress. He has already 5 IP
>> adresses & 5 registered domain names which are mapped to
>> each other. Now, do I have to contact the place he

bought
>> the domain names and tell them to remap those 5 names

to a
>> single IP adress, or can I handle this by setting up DNS
>> on the client's Windows 200 machine and create mappings
>> here? Or is there another alternative easier way?

>
>The former -- contact the DNS server admin and ask him to
>change the IP address for each site that is moving.
>
>(BTW, in IIS or his equivalent web server, you must map
>the sites using "host headers" since they all use the same
>address.)
>
>If you setup a DNS server the world will still be getting

the
>(older) info from the PARENT zone, and going to the

current
>DNS and the old addresses -- disappointment will ensue.
>
>
>.
>

 
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Herb Martin
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      29th Jul 2003
> First of all thanks a lot for your quick response, that is
> really so kind of you.


You are welcome.

> And another question, just to be sure, let's say that I
> have contacted the DNS admin and told him to route all of
> the 5 domain names to a single IP adress.


Yes, but let's not say "route" -- that is used for another
techical context and makes it sound like we might be
confused -- let's say "tell the DNS admin to delegate
(or even 'POINT') all of the records..."

> And afterwords I
> had setup the host headers in the IIS for each site. Is
> this all I have to do?


If it was working before, this SHOULD be all.
Note that some other people may have the OLD addresses
from the nameserver in "cache" for up to the TTL time setting.

> Are there any other imortant things
> to setup as well? And a final question, under a single IP
> adress how many sites should I host maximum? What is the
> safest number?


As long as you have Disk Space, CPU power, and network
bandwidth it can be very large.

Note that a big web site like Amazon is run separately --
actually it's probably duplicated on many servers for
performance reasons.

If you sold "cheap $5 per month small 5 Meg websites"
to others, you might handle hundreds or even thousands
IF they don't get much access. If no one is downloading
from it, then an extra website is pretty cheap on reasources.



 
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DJ
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      29th Jul 2003
you can also try different ports for different sites

>-----Original Message-----
>Hello Herb,
>
>First of all thanks a lot for your quick response, that

is
>really so kind of you.
>
>And another question, just to be sure, let's say that I
>have contacted the DNS admin and told him to route all of
>the 5 domain names to a single IP adress. And afterwords

I
>had setup the host headers in the IIS for each site. Is
>this all I have to do? Are there any other imortant

things
>to setup as well? And a final question, under a single IP
>adress how many sites should I host maximum? What is the
>safest number?
>
>Thanks
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>> A friend wants me to arrange his computer so he can

host
>>> multiple sites with 1 IP adress. He has already 5 IP
>>> adresses & 5 registered domain names which are mapped

to
>>> each other. Now, do I have to contact the place he

>bought
>>> the domain names and tell them to remap those 5 names

>to a
>>> single IP adress, or can I handle this by setting up

DNS
>>> on the client's Windows 200 machine and create mappings
>>> here? Or is there another alternative easier way?

>>
>>The former -- contact the DNS server admin and ask him to
>>change the IP address for each site that is moving.
>>
>>(BTW, in IIS or his equivalent web server, you must map
>>the sites using "host headers" since they all use the

same
>>address.)
>>
>>If you setup a DNS server the world will still be

getting
>the
>>(older) info from the PARENT zone, and going to the

>current
>>DNS and the old addresses -- disappointment will ensue.
>>
>>
>>.
>>

>.
>

 
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Herb Martin
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      29th Jul 2003
> you can also try different ports for different sites

Yes, I ommitted that purposely because one it is not
general purpose and two it offers little help to just say
"use port numbers to differentiate sites" without explaining
all the necessary setup and glue it takes to make it practical.

It's not general purpose because now every user must either
visit the "additional web sites on unusual ports" by explicitly
TYPING the port number in the URL, or by following links
from other pages that embed that information.

Since browser default to the, er., default port 80, it takes
special effort to use port 8000-8001 for the other 4 sites.



 
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