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Feargal
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      20th Mar 2007
Hi
I have a small AD setup, one Win2k server (DC, DNS,DHCP,SQL2K) and an old
NT4 server (SQL2K). Approx 15-20 clients, mainly XP, but 1 or 2 Win2K Pro.

The DNS/AD setup is using (and has always used) the companies primary domain
name (e.g.mydom.co.uk) as the internal domname. But DNS for that domain name
is 'officially' managed externally by our isp.

This setup has seemed to work successfully until very recently, but we are
now experiencing reasonably disconcerting problems, some of which (maybe
all) seem to be related to AD and DNS. It looks like the guy that originally
set this up 5 years ago didn't quite get it right.

The problems we are now experiencing include:
* A new XP PC which will not join the domain ("The specified server cannot
perform the requested operation")
* Regular disconnections of clients from mapped drives
* Regular Event Viewer error msgs of the style
Registration of the DNS record
'ba9510de-edd3-431e-b5d7-b7596c2a647b._msdcs.mydom.co.uk. 600 IN CNAME
Ceasar.mydom.co.uk.' failed with the following error:
DNS RR set that ought to exist, does not exist."

Something is not right with the setup. I can't figure out what. I suspect
DNS, but I may be wrong. Any suggestions on where to start looking?

Ta


 
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Danny Sanders
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      20th Mar 2007
> The DNS/AD setup is using (and has always used) the companies primary
> domain name (e.g.mydom.co.uk) as the internal domname. But DNS for that
> domain name is 'officially' managed externally by our isp.



AD absolutely must have a DNS server for the AD domain in order to "find"
the domain. Not your ISP's DNS server.

Basic AD DNS set up is install DNS, point the DNS server to itself for DNS
in the properties of TCP/IP, use the actual IP address not 127.0.0.1. All AD
client point to the DNS server set up for the AD domain ONLY. For Internet
access configure your AD DNS server to forward requests and list your ISP's
DNS server(s) as the forwarder. This is the only place on your AD domain
your ISP's DNS server should be listed.

Computers that point to any other DNS server for "preferred" other than the
DNS server that houses the zone for your AD domain will experience a hard
time joining the domain, extremely long log in times, group policy won't
work. Any AD computer pointing, to any other server other than the one set
up for your AD domain, as "alternate" will loose network drives randomly.

See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814591/en-us
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/825036/en-us
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323380/en-us

hth
DDS

"Feargal" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
> I have a small AD setup, one Win2k server (DC, DNS,DHCP,SQL2K) and an old
> NT4 server (SQL2K). Approx 15-20 clients, mainly XP, but 1 or 2 Win2K Pro.
>
> The DNS/AD setup is using (and has always used) the companies primary
> domain name (e.g.mydom.co.uk) as the internal domname. But DNS for that
> domain name is 'officially' managed externally by our isp.
>
> This setup has seemed to work successfully until very recently, but we are
> now experiencing reasonably disconcerting problems, some of which (maybe
> all) seem to be related to AD and DNS. It looks like the guy that
> originally set this up 5 years ago didn't quite get it right.
>
> The problems we are now experiencing include:
> * A new XP PC which will not join the domain ("The specified server cannot
> perform the requested operation")
> * Regular disconnections of clients from mapped drives
> * Regular Event Viewer error msgs of the style
> Registration of the DNS record
> 'ba9510de-edd3-431e-b5d7-b7596c2a647b._msdcs.mydom.co.uk. 600 IN CNAME
> Ceasar.mydom.co.uk.' failed with the following error:
> DNS RR set that ought to exist, does not exist."
>
> Something is not right with the setup. I can't figure out what. I suspect
> DNS, but I may be wrong. Any suggestions on where to start looking?
>
> Ta
>
>



 
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Feargal
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      20th Mar 2007
Thanks Danny

I suspected something as much.

I'll work thro it and let you know how I get on.

Thanks again
"Danny Sanders" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The DNS/AD setup is using (and has always used) the companies primary
>> domain name (e.g.mydom.co.uk) as the internal domname. But DNS for that
>> domain name is 'officially' managed externally by our isp.

>
>
> AD absolutely must have a DNS server for the AD domain in order to "find"
> the domain. Not your ISP's DNS server.
>
> Basic AD DNS set up is install DNS, point the DNS server to itself for DNS
> in the properties of TCP/IP, use the actual IP address not 127.0.0.1. All
> AD client point to the DNS server set up for the AD domain ONLY. For
> Internet access configure your AD DNS server to forward requests and list
> your ISP's DNS server(s) as the forwarder. This is the only place on your
> AD domain your ISP's DNS server should be listed.
>
> Computers that point to any other DNS server for "preferred" other than
> the DNS server that houses the zone for your AD domain will experience a
> hard time joining the domain, extremely long log in times, group policy
> won't work. Any AD computer pointing, to any other server other than the
> one set up for your AD domain, as "alternate" will loose network drives
> randomly.
>
> See:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814591/en-us
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/825036/en-us
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323380/en-us
>
> hth
> DDS
>
> "Feargal" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>> I have a small AD setup, one Win2k server (DC, DNS,DHCP,SQL2K) and an old
>> NT4 server (SQL2K). Approx 15-20 clients, mainly XP, but 1 or 2 Win2K
>> Pro.
>>
>> The DNS/AD setup is using (and has always used) the companies primary
>> domain name (e.g.mydom.co.uk) as the internal domname. But DNS for that
>> domain name is 'officially' managed externally by our isp.
>>
>> This setup has seemed to work successfully until very recently, but we
>> are now experiencing reasonably disconcerting problems, some of which
>> (maybe all) seem to be related to AD and DNS. It looks like the guy that
>> originally set this up 5 years ago didn't quite get it right.
>>
>> The problems we are now experiencing include:
>> * A new XP PC which will not join the domain ("The specified server
>> cannot perform the requested operation")
>> * Regular disconnections of clients from mapped drives
>> * Regular Event Viewer error msgs of the style
>> Registration of the DNS record
>> 'ba9510de-edd3-431e-b5d7-b7596c2a647b._msdcs.mydom.co.uk. 600 IN CNAME
>> Ceasar.mydom.co.uk.' failed with the following error:
>> DNS RR set that ought to exist, does not exist."
>>
>> Something is not right with the setup. I can't figure out what. I suspect
>> DNS, but I may be wrong. Any suggestions on where to start looking?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>>

>
>



 
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