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oval3720
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      18th Oct 2008
I recently system restored, instead of merely backing up a couple days like i
wanted to. Its okay, but the problem is now, the old information seems to be
hiding somewhere on my C drive. I cant figure out how to get rid of it,
because between that old information and what ive downloaded since, i have
virtually no disk space left. Can someone help me delete the old information?
 
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Bruce Chambers
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      18th Oct 2008
oval3720 wrote:
> I recently system restored, instead of merely backing up a couple days like i
> wanted to. Its okay, but the problem is now, the old information seems to be
> hiding somewhere on my C drive. I cant figure out how to get rid of it,
> because between that old information and what ive downloaded since, i have
> virtually no disk space left. Can someone help me delete the old information?



What, precisely, do you mean by "old information?" And precise what
kind of "system restore" was performed?


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oval3720
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      18th Oct 2008
All the information that was on my computer prior to my system restore, which
was on Sept. 7, is the "old information" i spoke of. All of my old downloads,
pictures, programs, everything. And i dont know how to answer the system
restore question, it was one of the programs i got from my start menu. Its as
if my C drive holds everything prior to and since Sept. 7, even though i dont
have access to any of that information prior to that date.

"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> oval3720 wrote:
> > I recently system restored, instead of merely backing up a couple days like i
> > wanted to. Its okay, but the problem is now, the old information seems to be
> > hiding somewhere on my C drive. I cant figure out how to get rid of it,
> > because between that old information and what ive downloaded since, i have
> > virtually no disk space left. Can someone help me delete the old information?

>
>
> What, precisely, do you mean by "old information?" And precise what
> kind of "system restore" was performed?
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
>

 
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Bruce Chambers
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      18th Oct 2008
oval3720 wrote:
> All the information that was on my computer prior to my system restore, which
> was on Sept. 7, is the "old information" i spoke of. All of my old downloads,
> pictures, programs, everything.



Well if you know what it al is, and don't need it, simply delete it.

> And i dont know how to answer the system
> restore question, it was one of the programs i got from my start menu.



Perhaps you'd like to tell us the name of this mysterious program? Or
would you prefer we make random guesses?

I'm afraid that no one can help if you don't provide at least a
modicum of pertinent information.

Help us help you:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
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oval3720
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      18th Oct 2008
If i knew how to access any of the old information i wouldnt be here asking
the question. I dont understand what you need from me as to answer the
question. I had what most people have on their PC's, a computer game,
pictures, lots of music, messenger (msn and yahoo), a music and video d/load
program. The problem is i cant actually FIND any of it from prior to Sept.
7th, just when i go to defragment my disk, it says i now only have 1% space
left, which should be impossible if it erased everything from prior to Sept.
7. i havent downloaded even half as much info and things since the debacle,
and even then i had 40% disk space. Sept. 7th is my restore point, and i cant
back up my system any further than that, when i had all my pictures,
programs, games ect. the way i wanted them. All i need to know is how to
clear that 60% of lost information that seems to be floating around somewhere
on my C drive, and i have no clear idea as how to access it to delete it, if
indeed it is still there.

"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> oval3720 wrote:
> > All the information that was on my computer prior to my system restore, which
> > was on Sept. 7, is the "old information" i spoke of. All of my old downloads,
> > pictures, programs, everything.

>
>
> Well if you know what it al is, and don't need it, simply delete it.
>
> > And i dont know how to answer the system
> > restore question, it was one of the programs i got from my start menu.

>
>
> Perhaps you'd like to tell us the name of this mysterious program? Or
> would you prefer we make random guesses?
>
> I'm afraid that no one can help if you don't provide at least a
> modicum of pertinent information.
>
> Help us help you:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
>

 
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Kwmani
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      18th Oct 2008
Let me be sure that I understand the problem you are describing. You did a
system restore using Windows System Restore. Is that correct?
Now you are low on hard drive space on C drive. Is that correct?
Do you have all the information you need on your system in the current
configuration?
Have you run Disc Cleanup on your C drive since the restore?

When you reply it is likely suggestions can be provided to help you.

"oval3720" wrote:

> I recently system restored, instead of merely backing up a couple days like i
> wanted to. Its okay, but the problem is now, the old information seems to be
> hiding somewhere on my C drive. I cant figure out how to get rid of it,
> because between that old information and what ive downloaded since, i have
> virtually no disk space left. Can someone help me delete the old information?

 
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oval3720
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      18th Oct 2008
Yes, i did a system restore using Windows System Restore. Yes, i am low on
hard drive space. Yes I have all the information I need in my current
configuration, outside of a d/loaded computer game not performing the same as
it did before. Yes, i ran Disc Cleanup this morning.

"Kwmani" wrote:

> Let me be sure that I understand the problem you are describing. You did a
> system restore using Windows System Restore. Is that correct?
> Now you are low on hard drive space on C drive. Is that correct?
> Do you have all the information you need on your system in the current
> configuration?
> Have you run Disc Cleanup on your C drive since the restore?
>
> When you reply it is likely suggestions can be provided to help you.
>
> "oval3720" wrote:
>
> > I recently system restored, instead of merely backing up a couple days like i
> > wanted to. Its okay, but the problem is now, the old information seems to be
> > hiding somewhere on my C drive. I cant figure out how to get rid of it,
> > because between that old information and what ive downloaded since, i have
> > virtually no disk space left. Can someone help me delete the old information?

 
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Patrick Keenan
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      19th Oct 2008

"oval3720" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:A12ACDBA-E1AD-4AD0-BE2E-(E-Mail Removed)...
> If i knew how to access any of the old information i wouldnt be here
> asking
> the question.


Unfortunately it's not really clear what exactly you are missing, or why,
since it is unlikely to be because of System Restore.

> I dont understand what you need from me as to answer the
> question. I had what most people have on their PC's, a computer game,
> pictures, lots of music, messenger (msn and yahoo), a music and video
> d/load
> program. The problem is i cant actually FIND any of it from prior to Sept.
> 7th, just when i go to defragment my disk, it says i now only have 1%
> space
> left, which should be impossible if it erased everything


System Restore doesn't erase anything. It doesn't add much, either; it
mostly swaps in and out currently existing registry files. After running
System Restore, you should find virtually no change in drive space.

> from prior to Sept.
> 7.


System Restore doesn't erase any user data, or back it up or restore it.
It deals with system settings - hence the name.

> i havent downloaded even half as much info and things since the debacle,
> and even then i had 40% disk space.


40% of how big a drive?

> Sept. 7th is my restore point, and i cant
> back up my system any further than that, when i had all my pictures,
> programs, games ect. the way i wanted them. All i need to know is how to
> clear that 60% of lost information


Is that "lost information" music, pictures, programs, etc? It's not clear
what it is you can't find.

> that seems to be floating around somewhere
> on my C drive,


It should be exactly where it was. System Restore won't have moved it.

> and i have no clear idea as how to access it to delete it, if
> indeed it is still there.


System Restore doesn't move your user data, so it shouldn't have caused you
to lose drive space like this. It does nothing with music or
pictures. It *could* cause problems with an application by backdating the
registry, but it won't remove or restore the actual application files, so
the change in disk usage will be very small.

Something else, not related to System Restore, has apparently happened.

Log onto your Administrator account - if you're using XP Home this has to be
done in Safe Mode - and go through the disk folders and see what's where.
Unfortunately there really isn't a way around doing that at this point. If,
for example, you can't find the music files, do a search for *.mp3 files on
the entire drive.

Percentages can be misleading unless you take into account the real disk
space. 10% of a small drive is a lot less space than 10% of a big drive.
This may give you a clue as to what you are looking for.

Finally, if you are stuck you may find it helpful to attach your disk to
another XP system (one with lots of clear space) via USB2 drive case or
adapter, locate your files and copy them there, then delete them from your
drive. You can then put the drive back, fix the problem, and finally copy
your files back into place.

HTH
-pk


>
> "Bruce Chambers" wrote:
>
>> oval3720 wrote:
>> > All the information that was on my computer prior to my system restore,
>> > which
>> > was on Sept. 7, is the "old information" i spoke of. All of my old
>> > downloads,
>> > pictures, programs, everything.

>>
>>
>> Well if you know what it al is, and don't need it, simply delete it.
>>
>> > And i dont know how to answer the system
>> > restore question, it was one of the programs i got from my start menu.

>>
>>
>> Perhaps you'd like to tell us the name of this mysterious program? Or
>> would you prefer we make random guesses?
>>
>> I'm afraid that no one can help if you don't provide at least a
>> modicum of pertinent information.
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
>> Russell
>>
>> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
>> killed a great many philosophers.
>> ~ Denis Diderot
>>



 
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Jim
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      19th Oct 2008

Sounds like you`ve done a system backup to your main drive and it`s
also using hibernation , which * I believe* uses twice the amount of
usage of the drive . ( No flames , please ) .




On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:20:00 -0700, oval3720
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>If i knew how to access any of the old information i wouldnt be here asking
>the question. I dont understand what you need from me as to answer the
>question. I had what most people have on their PC's, a computer game,
>pictures, lots of music, messenger (msn and yahoo), a music and video d/load
>program. The problem is i cant actually FIND any of it from prior to Sept.
>7th, just when i go to defragment my disk, it says i now only have 1% space
>left, which should be impossible if it erased everything from prior to Sept.
>7. i havent downloaded even half as much info and things since the debacle,
>and even then i had 40% disk space. Sept. 7th is my restore point, and i cant
>back up my system any further than that, when i had all my pictures,
>programs, games ect. the way i wanted them. All i need to know is how to
>clear that 60% of lost information that seems to be floating around somewhere
>on my C drive, and i have no clear idea as how to access it to delete it, if
>indeed it is still there.
>
>"Bruce Chambers" wrote:
>
>> oval3720 wrote:
>> > All the information that was on my computer prior to my system restore, which
>> > was on Sept. 7, is the "old information" i spoke of. All of my old downloads,
>> > pictures, programs, everything.

>>
>>
>> Well if you know what it al is, and don't need it, simply delete it.
>>
>> > And i dont know how to answer the system
>> > restore question, it was one of the programs i got from my start menu.

>>
>>
>> Perhaps you'd like to tell us the name of this mysterious program? Or
>> would you prefer we make random guesses?
>>
>> I'm afraid that no one can help if you don't provide at least a
>> modicum of pertinent information.
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>>
>> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
>> killed a great many philosophers.
>> ~ Denis Diderot
>>

 
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      19th Oct 2008
"Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Sounds like you`ve done a system backup to your main drive and it`s
> also using hibernation , which * I believe* uses twice the amount of
> usage of the drive . ( No flames , please ) .


There are in fact some backup utilities that quietly "back up" to the system
drive. Really helpful when that drive crashes. I've seen a few Thinkpads
with this "feature".

As to hibernation, the space it uses is based on the amount of RAM; RAM
contents are copied to the hiberfil and restored.

-pk

>
>
>
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:20:00 -0700, oval3720
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>If i knew how to access any of the old information i wouldnt be here
>>asking
>>the question. I dont understand what you need from me as to answer the
>>question. I had what most people have on their PC's, a computer game,
>>pictures, lots of music, messenger (msn and yahoo), a music and video
>>d/load
>>program. The problem is i cant actually FIND any of it from prior to Sept.
>>7th, just when i go to defragment my disk, it says i now only have 1%
>>space
>>left, which should be impossible if it erased everything from prior to
>>Sept.
>>7. i havent downloaded even half as much info and things since the
>>debacle,
>>and even then i had 40% disk space. Sept. 7th is my restore point, and i
>>cant
>>back up my system any further than that, when i had all my pictures,
>>programs, games ect. the way i wanted them. All i need to know is how to
>>clear that 60% of lost information that seems to be floating around
>>somewhere
>>on my C drive, and i have no clear idea as how to access it to delete it,
>>if
>>indeed it is still there.
>>
>>"Bruce Chambers" wrote:
>>
>>> oval3720 wrote:
>>> > All the information that was on my computer prior to my system
>>> > restore, which
>>> > was on Sept. 7, is the "old information" i spoke of. All of my old
>>> > downloads,
>>> > pictures, programs, everything.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well if you know what it al is, and don't need it, simply delete it.
>>>
>>> > And i dont know how to answer the system
>>> > restore question, it was one of the programs i got from my start menu.
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps you'd like to tell us the name of this mysterious program? Or
>>> would you prefer we make random guesses?
>>>
>>> I'm afraid that no one can help if you don't provide at least a
>>> modicum of pertinent information.
>>>
>>> Help us help you:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>
>>> Help us help you:
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>>>
>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>>>
>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
>>> Russell
>>>
>>> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
>>> killed a great many philosophers.
>>> ~ Denis Diderot
>>>



 
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