I've started to get warnings that my C drive is full. Inspection shows that I have at least 4GB occupied in the System Volume Information folder. It seems this is used for holding information for the System Restore function. The settings for my System Restore are such that it shouldn't occupy more than 900MB. The majority of the sub folders are displayed in blue (compressed/encrypted) but they still occupy about 100MB a piece.
Reducing the settings to a lower value doesn't seem to reduce the storage requirements.

Does anyone know if I can safely remove the older folders - or does that stop System Restore from working?.....


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Use Disk Cleanup... and click on the second tab.... choose the remove all
but the most recent System Restore file.

Cari
www.coribright.com

"Gary Beighton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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I've started to get warnings that my C drive is full. Inspection shows that
I have at least 4GB occupied in the System Volume Information folder. It
seems this is used for holding information for the System Restore function.
The settings for my System Restore are such that it shouldn't occupy more
than 900MB. The majority of the sub folders are displayed in blue
(compressed/encrypted) but they still occupy about 100MB a piece.
Reducing the settings to a lower value doesn't seem to reduce the storage
requirements.

Does anyone know if I can safely remove the older folders - or does that
stop System Restore from working?.....


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You must be the only person using XP that has a fully
functioning and working System Restore. Usually restore
points are deleted by everything from disk defragmenting
to virus scans. The most efficient way to stop this waste
of space is to use the NT Backup and when doing any major
changes or adding programs and your system is stabe simply
update the backup file. If you have XP Home then it is on
your disk. If you do an explore or perform additional
tasks and then explore click on the following folders in
this order valueadd\msft\ntbackup and double click the two
little computers icon to put the backup utility in your
all programs\accessories\sytem tools. have fun.

Let me enlighten you.... I have 3 XP Pro PCs and System Restore works just
perfectly on ALL THREE.

Perhaps you are the only person with a non functioning and working System
Restore.

Cari
www.coribright.com

"The Unknown P" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:014b01c3bc2c$46ae0b20$(E-Mail Removed)...
> You must be the only person using XP that has a fully
> functioning and working System Restore. Usually restore
> points are deleted by everything from disk defragmenting
> to virus scans. The most efficient way to stop this waste
> of space is to use the NT Backup and when doing any major
> changes or adding programs and your system is stabe simply
> update the backup file. If you have XP Home then it is on
> your disk. If you do an explore or perform additional
> tasks and then explore click on the following folders in
> this order valueadd\msft\ntbackup and double click the two
> little computers icon to put the backup utility in your
> all programs\accessories\sytem tools. have fun.

...also - in System Properties / System Restore, reduce the amount of
disk space allocated to better suit your situation.

John Allen

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:29:59 -0800, "Cari MS-MVP"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>PLAIN text for newsgroups, please, not Rich Text or HTML.
>
>Use Disk Cleanup... and click on the second tab.... choose the remove all
>but the most recent System Restore file.
>
>Cari
>www.coribright.com
>
>"Gary Beighton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:4_oAb.1012$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I've started to get warnings that my C drive is full. Inspection shows that
>I have at least 4GB occupied in the System Volume Information folder. It
>seems this is used for holding information for the System Restore function.
>The settings for my System Restore are such that it shouldn't occupy more
>than 900MB. The majority of the sub folders are displayed in blue
>(compressed/encrypted) but they still occupy about 100MB a piece.
>Reducing the settings to a lower value doesn't seem to reduce the storage
>requirements.
>
>Does anyone know if I can safely remove the older folders - or does that
>stop System Restore from working?.....
>
>
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I have fully functioning and working system restore with XP Home

I understand that you can't use NT Backup in XP Home to backup the
system state - only data files

John Allen

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:08:04 -0800, "The Unknown P" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>You must be the only person using XP that has a fully
>functioning and working System Restore. Usually restore
>points are deleted by everything from disk defragmenting
>to virus scans. The most efficient way to stop this waste
>of space is to use the NT Backup and when doing any major
>changes or adding programs and your system is stabe simply
>update the backup file. If you have XP Home then it is on
>your disk. If you do an explore or perform additional
>tasks and then explore click on the following folders in
>this order valueadd\msft\ntbackup and double click the two
>little computers icon to put the backup utility in your
>all programs\accessories\sytem tools. have fun.

I've never been able to sucessfully restore back to any point no matter what
point I use. I'd prefer to keep good backups and if problems arise, use the
system recovery feature to rebuild. It takes a fair amount of time, but if
restore points don't work, there's no other options that I know of.

"Cari MS-MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Let me enlighten you.... I have 3 XP Pro PCs and System Restore works just
> perfectly on ALL THREE.
>
> Perhaps you are the only person with a non functioning and working System
> Restore.
>
> Cari
> www.coribright.com
>
> "The Unknown P" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:014b01c3bc2c$46ae0b20$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > You must be the only person using XP that has a fully
> > functioning and working System Restore. Usually restore
> > points are deleted by everything from disk defragmenting
> > to virus scans. The most efficient way to stop this waste
> > of space is to use the NT Backup and when doing any major
> > changes or adding programs and your system is stabe simply
> > update the backup file. If you have XP Home then it is on
> > your disk. If you do an explore or perform additional
> > tasks and then explore click on the following folders in
> > this order valueadd\msft\ntbackup and double click the two
> > little computers icon to put the backup utility in your
> > all programs\accessories\sytem tools. have fun.
>
>

That's a seperate problem.
System Restore works fine, it just doesn't work on your PC!

Several fixes to try (one at a time) -

1. Right-click on My Computer/Properties/System Restore tab. Check the 'Turn
off System Restore on all drives' box, reboot, then turn it on again.

2. Go to -
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Lines 278, 289

3. Also, if you are a compulsive file deleter, it's possible to delete
something on which Restore is dependent to function correctly.

--
John

> I've never been able to sucessfully restore back to any point no matter
> what point I use. I'd prefer to keep good backups and if problems
> arise, use the system recovery feature to rebuild. It takes a fair
> amount of time, but if restore points don't work, there's no other
> options that I know of.
>
> "Cari MS-MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Let me enlighten you.... I have 3 XP Pro PCs and System Restore works
>> just perfectly on ALL THREE.
>>
>> Perhaps you are the only person with a non functioning and working
>> System Restore.
>>
>> Cari
>> www.coribright.com
>>
>> "The Unknown P" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:014b01c3bc2c$46ae0b20$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> You must be the only person using XP that has a fully
>>> functioning and working System Restore. Usually restore
>>> points are deleted by everything from disk defragmenting
>>> to virus scans. The most efficient way to stop this waste
>>> of space is to use the NT Backup and when doing any major
>>> changes or adding programs and your system is stabe simply
>>> update the backup file. If you have XP Home then it is on
>>> your disk. If you do an explore or perform additional
>>> tasks and then explore click on the following folders in
>>> this order valueadd\msft\ntbackup and double click the two
>>> little computers icon to put the backup utility in your
>>> all programs\accessories\sytem tools. have fun.

John A,
I'm in over my head in this conversation, but as I understand the process,
NT backup is used to back up files and the system recovery disk provided by
OEMs are supposed to cover everything else.
Please, somebody correct me if this is wrong. This comes from a guy that
didn't even know OEM or "Retail" versions were not the same until a few
weeks ago and certainly not when mine was purchased.
This is also a guy that has yet to do an NT backup for anything. I would
like to do so , however I just know that when I try to this machine is going
to require me to give it " the meaning of life" before allowing me to take
the next step and if I can't ,it will no doubt self destruct in five
seconds,Mr. Phelps.



"John A" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have fully functioning and working system restore with XP Home
>
> I understand that you can't use NT Backup in XP Home to backup the
> system state - only data files
>
> John Allen
>
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:08:04 -0800, "The Unknown P" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >You must be the only person using XP that has a fully
> >functioning and working System Restore. Usually restore
> >points are deleted by everything from disk defragmenting
> >to virus scans. The most efficient way to stop this waste
> >of space is to use the NT Backup and when doing any major
> >changes or adding programs and your system is stabe simply
> >update the backup file. If you have XP Home then it is on
> >your disk. If you do an explore or perform additional
> >tasks and then explore click on the following folders in
> >this order valueadd\msft\ntbackup and double click the two
> >little computers icon to put the backup utility in your
> >all programs\accessories\sytem tools. have fun.
>

Mad Max, you are also the guy who spent several days last week making a hell
of a fuss arguing with everyone who tried to help you with a problem, then
couldn't even be bothered to acknowledge a personal email sent to you,
complete with a fix program and additional advice.
As you said previously - you have really burned your bridges.

--
John

> John A,
> I'm in over my head in this conversation, but as I understand the
> process, NT backup is used to back up files and the system recovery
> disk provided by OEMs are supposed to cover everything else.
> Please, somebody correct me if this is wrong. This comes from a guy that
> didn't even know OEM or "Retail" versions were not the same until a few
> weeks ago and certainly not when mine was purchased.
> This is also a guy that has yet to do an NT backup for anything. I would
> like to do so , however I just know that when I try to this machine is
> going to require me to give it " the meaning of life" before allowing
> me to take the next step and if I can't ,it will no doubt self destruct
> in five seconds,Mr. Phelps.
>
>
>
> "John A" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have fully functioning and working system restore with XP Home
>>
>> I understand that you can't use NT Backup in XP Home to backup the
>> system state - only data files
>>
>> John Allen
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:08:04 -0800, "The Unknown P" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You must be the only person using XP that has a fully
>>> functioning and working System Restore. Usually restore
>>> points are deleted by everything from disk defragmenting
>>> to virus scans. The most efficient way to stop this waste
>>> of space is to use the NT Backup and when doing any major
>>> changes or adding programs and your system is stabe simply
>>> update the backup file. If you have XP Home then it is on
>>> your disk. If you do an explore or perform additional
>>> tasks and then explore click on the following folders in
>>> this order valueadd\msft\ntbackup and double click the two
>>> little computers icon to put the backup utility in your
>>> all programs\accessories\sytem tools. have fun.