I just started working for this company. They have a
server that has all kinds of problems. for example the
servers fully qualified name is "server.pacbell.net" but
the domain is "hq.domain.com" The server I believe was a
windows nt 4.0 server upgraded to 2k...So I dont know If
it kept old settings or if somebody did this on purpose. I
know there is registry change I can do. But I was
wondering what the reprocussions were. Such as having to
readd all the workstations to the domain because the sids
become corrupt or what ever. And If the change causes too
many problems how to fix it to the way it was. All the
machines have dns errors...everybody logs on fine...I just
noticed all these dns errors while going through teh event
viewer. They only have one 2k server on the network as a
dc. And I have a feeling that with this problem I wont be
able to add one. I also noticed that I tried to add an Xp
box and it times out of the network after about 30 minutes
while loging into the domain but If i demote back to
workgroup it acceses resources fine. Thanks in advance

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Then Kevin replied below:
> I just started working for this company. They have a
> server that has all kinds of problems. for example the
> servers fully qualified name is "server.pacbell.net" but
> the domain is "hq.domain.com" The server I believe was a
> windows nt 4.0 server upgraded to 2k...So I dont know If
> it kept old settings or if somebody did this on purpose. I
> know there is registry change I can do. But I was
> wondering what the reprocussions were. Such as having to
> readd all the workstations to the domain because the sids
> become corrupt or what ever. And If the change causes too
> many problems how to fix it to the way it was. All the
> machines have dns errors...everybody logs on fine...I just
> noticed all these dns errors while going through teh event
> viewer. They only have one 2k server on the network as a
> dc. And I have a feeling that with this problem I wont be
> able to add one. I also noticed that I tried to add an Xp
> box and it times out of the network after about 30 minutes
> while loging into the domain but If i demote back to
> workgroup it acceses resources fine. Thanks in advance

This is pretty common with NT4 upgrades, (disjointed namespace) it just so
happens that Microsoft has a fix for it they just released in a KB article.
There is a script on the page that you run to correct the Primary DNS
suffix.
257623 Domain Controller's Domain Name System Suffix Does Not Match Domain
Name
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=257623

We used to have to verify this and email the script but Microsoft has so
kindly released the script for publication.


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Thanks Kevin.

I will try this, this weekend. Have you gotten any feed
back from people on how well this works or issue..etc. I
have had such a nightmare with windows profiles and sids
that Im a bit sketchy and want to be somewhat prepared.
None of the workstations are registered in dns for the
obvious reason. Would apply this fix then bump them off
the network or not allow them to log on. And would I then
have to manually create them in dns

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> Thanks Kevin.
>
> I will try this, this weekend. Have you gotten any feed
> back from people on how well this works or issue..etc. I
> have had such a nightmare with windows profiles and sids
> that Im a bit sketchy and want to be somewhat prepared.
> None of the workstations are registered in dns for the
> obvious reason. Would apply this fix then bump them off
> the network or not allow them to log on. And would I then
> have to manually create them in dns

Yes, feed back has been excellent the script has fixed all but one I know of
and I think he had other issues beside the disjointed namespace.
It take about twenty seconds and a reboot.
Make sure the DC only points to its own address for DNS.

If you would post an ipconfig /all from the DC and one of the XP clients.


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2K SERVER-

Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : hal2000
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : pacbell.net
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : pacbell.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink
10/100 PCI For Comple
te PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-DA-5F-8C-
AA
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
206.13.29.12
206.13.30.12
192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>
--------------------------------------------------------
XP MACHINE ON WORKGROUP NOT DOMAIN

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.JOSIE-
XP>IPCONFIG /ALL

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : josie-xp
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek
RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethe
rnet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-C0-1C-
DE
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.63
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday,
April 01, 2004 8:07:43 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday,
April 01, 2004 8:07:43 PM

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.JOSIE-XP>
------------------------------------------------------
WINDOWS 2000 PRO MACHINE ON DOMAIN

Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and
Settings\administrator.CURRIE.000>IPCONFIG /ALL

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bpctechadmin
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
hq.currieenterprises.com
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . :
hq.currieenterprises.com

currieenterprises.com

Ethernet adapter big block workgroup:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139
(A) PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-F4-8B-9F-
81
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.105
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.10
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.10

Ethernet adapter currie domain:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR
FA310TX Fast Ethernet Adapte
r (NGRPCI)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-E3-08-2C-
43
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.29
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday,
April 01, 2004 4:49:12 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday,
April 01, 2004 4:49:12 PM

C:\Documents and Settings\administrator.CURRIE.000>

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posted a question
Then Kevin replied inline:
> 2K SERVER-
>
> Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
> (C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.
>
> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>ipconfig /all
>
> Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : hal2000
> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : pacbell.net
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : pacbell.net<--Make sure this
gets changed, also.
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink
> 10/100 PCI For Comple
> te PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-DA-5F-8C-
> AA
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> 206.13.29.12<---This address
must be removed
> 206.13.30.12<---This address
must be removed
> 192.168.1.1
> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

For internet access configure a forwarder in the DNS server properties, on
the forwarders tab.
323380 - HOW TO: Configure DNS for Internet Access in Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;323380

> --------------------------------------------------------
> XP MACHINE ON WORKGROUP NOT DOMAIN
>
> Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
> (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.JOSIE-
>> IPCONFIG /ALL
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : josie-xp
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek
> RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethe
> rnet NIC
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-C0-1C-
> DE
> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.63
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday,
> April 01, 2004 8:07:43 AM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday,
> April 01, 2004 8:07:43 PM
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.JOSIE-XP>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> WINDOWS 2000 PRO MACHINE ON DOMAIN
>
> Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
> (C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.
>
> C:\Documents and
> Settings\administrator.CURRIE.000>IPCONFIG /ALL
>
> Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bpctechadmin
> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :

> hq.currieenterprises.com<--------------------------Is this the AD Domain
name?


> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . :
> hq.currieenterprises.com
>
> currieenterprises.com
>



!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_
!
THE BINDINGS ON THIS MACHINE ARE OUT OF ORDER!
Right click on Network places, choose properties, in the Advanced Menu
select Advanced Settings. Move the Ethernet adapter currie domain: adapter
to the top of the connections list.
The bindings must be correct so GPOs can be properly applied.

> Ethernet adapter big block workgroup:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139
> (A) PCI Fast Ethernet
> Adapter #2
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-F4-8B-9F-
> 81
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.105
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.10<----What is this
DNS server?
Do not use a DNS server that does not have a zone for the AD domain in any
position on any NIC of an AD Domain member.
825036 - Best practices for DNS client settings in Windows 2000 Server and
in Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;825036

> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.10
>
> Ethernet adapter currie domain:<----------------------This connection must
be moved to the default position

>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR
> FA310TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
> r (NGRPCI)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-E3-08-2C-
> 43
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.29
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday,
> April 01, 2004 4:49:12 AM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday,
> April 01, 2004 4:49:12 PM
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\administrator.CURRIE.000>



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>> 192.168.1.1
>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>
>For internet access configure a forwarder in the DNS
server properties, on OK, I HAVE FORWARDING ALREADY
>the forwarders tab.
>323380 - HOW TO: Configure DNS for Internet Access in
Windows Server 2003
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;323380
>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> WINDOWS 2000 PRO MACHINE ON DOMAIN
>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
bpctechadmin
>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
>
>> hq.currieenterprises.com<--------------------------Is
this the AD Domain
>name? YES
>
>
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . :
>> hq.currieenterprises.com
>>
>> currieenterprises.com
>>
>
>
>
>!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!
_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_!_
>!
>THE BINDINGS ON THIS MACHINE ARE OUT OF ORDER!
>Right click on Network places, choose properties, in the
Advanced Menu
>select Advanced Settings. Move the Ethernet adapter
currie domain: adapter
>to the top of the connections list.
>The bindings must be correct so GPOs can be properly
applied. OK, THANKS
>
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :
192.168.10.10<----What is this
>DNS server?
>>
>> Ethernet adapter currie domain:<----------------------
This connection must
>be moved to the default position OK
>
THANKS KEVIN. THE .10.10 DNS SERVER IS A WEB SERVER. ITS
PART OF A SEPERATE COMPANY IN OUR OFFICE THAT DOES HOSTS
WEB SITES AND DOES EMAIL. THE WEB GUYS AND PROGRAMMERS IN
OUR COMPANY COMPLAINED ABOUT THE FTP SPEED TO THE SERVER
THROUGH THE INTERNET. SO I CONNECTED THAT SERVER WHICH IS
IN A WORKGROUP OF ITS OWN ON ITS OWN T1 TO 3 MACHINES IN
OUR OFFICE WITH A HUB FROM THE SERVER TO THE 3 SELECT
COMPUTERS. ITS A LOW BUDGET COMPANY AND THEY DONT WANT TO
DO THE WHOLE POINT TO POINT AND SITE TRUSTING THING. SO I
THOUGHT RUNNING A HUB ON ITS OWN SUBNET AND DIRECTLY TO
SEPERATE NIC'S ON THE 3 MACHINES WOULD BE OK. IS THIS BAD ?
THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP.

kevin you noted that on the dns suffix search list for the
server to make sure it gets changed. Will this be changed
in the script i run or will i have to do it manually.

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> kevin you noted that on the dns suffix search list for the
> server to make sure it gets changed. Will this be changed
> in the script i run or will i have to do it manually.

Not sure I've never personally ran the script. It's not a big deal to change
it though.

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>> kevin you noted that on the dns suffix search list for the
>> server to make sure it gets changed. Will this be changed
>> in the script i run or will i have to do it manually.
>
> Not sure I've never personally ran the script. It's not a big deal to
> change it though.
>
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I've ran the script before. It puts in the appropriate search suffixes based
on the Primary DNS Suffix.

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