Hi !

I build my image with the directx 9.0c component. When I run dxdiag, I can
see the DirectX Version : 9.0b.

The problem is that the performances are very bad on my target device when I
use the VMR 9 with a screen depth of 16 bits.

I tried to install an XP Pro with the DirectX 9.0c and it works well (good
perfs) in 16 bits or 32 bits. So the problem do not come from my target
devices.
I tried to install, on my xpe image, all the same drivers as I have on the
xp pro install, but the problem persists.

In conclusion, I think the bad performances come from the DirectX 9.0c
component.
I will try to rebuild my image without DirectX 9 and then install it
after...

What I am doing wrong with this DirectX 9.0c component ?

thanks
Mike

Mike,

I recall a thread where the problem with DX 9.0c component version was reported. MS folks posted some reg.changes that were supposed
to fix that.
Here we go:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...79af1a5ae3736d

Also, check if your video driver got installed and working properly.

KM

> Hi !
>
> I build my image with the directx 9.0c component. When I run dxdiag, I can
> see the DirectX Version : 9.0b.
>
> The problem is that the performances are very bad on my target device when I
> use the VMR 9 with a screen depth of 16 bits.
>
> I tried to install an XP Pro with the DirectX 9.0c and it works well (good
> perfs) in 16 bits or 32 bits. So the problem do not come from my target
> devices.
> I tried to install, on my xpe image, all the same drivers as I have on the
> xp pro install, but the problem persists.
>
> In conclusion, I think the bad performances come from the DirectX 9.0c
> component.
> I will try to rebuild my image without DirectX 9 and then install it
> after...
>
> What I am doing wrong with this DirectX 9.0c component ?
>
> thanks
> Mike
>
>

Mike

There is nothing wrong in the Directx 9c component except some missing
registries not updated .

follow the link u will find the thread which discussed the versioning problem

http://support.microsoft.com/newsgro...a-6a51aed4bcc9

The problem may not be due to the Directx if u have resolved all the
dependancies of the directX

Try in the XPEmulation component from the http://www.xpetools.com

Srivathsan.A

Mike,

> I am pretty sure that my video driver works properly. I am working on a VIA
> EPIA MiniITX motherboard. VIA gives all necessary XP drivers and XPe driver
> components for his card. So when I install an XP Pro with the XP VGA Driver

Well.. You can't trust nobody's word on this. You have to check if the driver got installed on *your* image.
Use Device Manager or devcon to check the driver status.
After all, you always have SetupApi.log to see if there were any problems instaling the driver.

> and DirectX 9.0c, the VMR9 filter works well. If I install the same vga
> driver on an XPe install with directx 9.0c embedded component, I have
> problems when using the VMR9 filter.
> Maybe there's a problem with the XPe vga driver component but I don't think
> so because if I use the VMR7 instead of the VMR9, my applications works very
> well (except for missed VMR9 functionalities).
>
> I tried to not include the DX9.0c component in my image and then install it
> after fba but I did not succeed in.

Errors? Then you might have not included all the required dependencies.

> I have noticed something else : some components are missing. In the DX9.0c
> macro component I have include all components except the Direct VB.
> I join a screenshot. Could you tell me if my directx components version are correct ?

I think that should be easier for you to auto-resolve all the DX macro component dependencies and give it a try rahter than trying
to fix the issue with so many dx binaries missing.

> (I did not apply the registry changes for the version number yet)

Sorry, can't give you any good hint here until you include all the dependencies of the DX components.

KM

> "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Mike,
> >
> > I recall a thread where the problem with DX 9.0c component version was
> > reported. MS folks posted some reg.changes that were supposed
> > to fix that.
> > Here we go:
> >
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...79af1a5ae3736d
> >
> > Also, check if your video driver got installed and working properly.
> >
> > KM
> >
> >> Hi !
> >>
> >> I build my image with the directx 9.0c component. When I run dxdiag, I
> >> can
> >> see the DirectX Version : 9.0b.
> >>
> >> The problem is that the performances are very bad on my target device
> >> when I
> >> use the VMR 9 with a screen depth of 16 bits.
> >>
> >> I tried to install an XP Pro with the DirectX 9.0c and it works well
> >> (good
> >> perfs) in 16 bits or 32 bits. So the problem do not come from my target
> >> devices.
> >> I tried to install, on my xpe image, all the same drivers as I have on
> >> the
> >> xp pro install, but the problem persists.
> >>
> >> In conclusion, I think the bad performances come from the DirectX 9.0c
> >> component.
> >> I will try to rebuild my image without DirectX 9 and then install it
> >> after...
> >>
> >> What I am doing wrong with this DirectX 9.0c component ?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

Hi KM !

I found the problem !!!!!! ouf

The problem was about 2 components : VIA CPU to AGP Controller and VIA/S3G
Unichrome Graphics.
With the XP Pro Install on my target device (VIA EPI MII MiniITX) the
tap.exe gave me : CPU to AGP Controller component (version 5.1.00.0230) and
VIA/S3G Unichrome Graphics components. VIA embedded site gave me CPU to AGP
Controller version 5.1.0.3442 and VIA/S3G Unichrome Graphics components.

In my image I used the CPU to AGP Control version 5.1.0.3442 instead of
5.1.00.230 and it was for this reason that when I have installed the VIA/S3G
CLE 266, VMR9 gave me same result as before : CPU occupation very high for
small rendering resolution.
I tried to use the CPU to AGP Controller v 5.1.00.230 and install the
VIA/S3G CLE 266 driver instead of those gave me by VIA Embedded site for XPe
and now the VMR9 works fine !!! cooooooool

So you're right when you say "You can't trust nobody's word on this" ;o)

More, now I know too that the missing dll that appear in the DXDiag
application come from Direct Music components (performance, scripting ...).
I do not need them and they are not linked to the VMR.

thanks a lot for your help KM !
Mike


"KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Mike,
>
>> I am pretty sure that my video driver works properly. I am working on a
>> VIA
>> EPIA MiniITX motherboard. VIA gives all necessary XP drivers and XPe
>> driver
>> components for his card. So when I install an XP Pro with the XP VGA
>> Driver
>
> Well.. You can't trust nobody's word on this. You have to check if the
> driver got installed on *your* image.
> Use Device Manager or devcon to check the driver status.
> After all, you always have SetupApi.log to see if there were any problems
> instaling the driver.
>
>> and DirectX 9.0c, the VMR9 filter works well. If I install the same vga
>> driver on an XPe install with directx 9.0c embedded component, I have
>> problems when using the VMR9 filter.
>> Maybe there's a problem with the XPe vga driver component but I don't
>> think
>> so because if I use the VMR7 instead of the VMR9, my applications works
>> very
>> well (except for missed VMR9 functionalities).
>>
>> I tried to not include the DX9.0c component in my image and then install
>> it
>> after fba but I did not succeed in.
>
> Errors? Then you might have not included all the required dependencies.
>
>> I have noticed something else : some components are missing. In the
>> DX9.0c
>> macro component I have include all components except the Direct VB.
>> I join a screenshot. Could you tell me if my directx components version
>> are correct ?
>
> I think that should be easier for you to auto-resolve all the DX macro
> component dependencies and give it a try rahter than trying
> to fix the issue with so many dx binaries missing.
>
>> (I did not apply the registry changes for the version number yet)
>
> Sorry, can't give you any good hint here until you include all the
> dependencies of the DX components.
>
> KM
>
>> "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > I recall a thread where the problem with DX 9.0c component version was
>> > reported. MS folks posted some reg.changes that were supposed
>> > to fix that.
>> > Here we go:
>> >
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...79af1a5ae3736d
>> >
>> > Also, check if your video driver got installed and working properly.
>> >
>> > KM
>> >
>> >> Hi !
>> >>
>> >> I build my image with the directx 9.0c component. When I run dxdiag, I
>> >> can
>> >> see the DirectX Version : 9.0b.
>> >>
>> >> The problem is that the performances are very bad on my target device
>> >> when I
>> >> use the VMR 9 with a screen depth of 16 bits.
>> >>
>> >> I tried to install an XP Pro with the DirectX 9.0c and it works well
>> >> (good
>> >> perfs) in 16 bits or 32 bits. So the problem do not come from my
>> >> target
>> >> devices.
>> >> I tried to install, on my xpe image, all the same drivers as I have on
>> >> the
>> >> xp pro install, but the problem persists.
>> >>
>> >> In conclusion, I think the bad performances come from the DirectX 9.0c
>> >> component.
>> >> I will try to rebuild my image without DirectX 9 and then install it
>> >> after...
>> >>
>> >> What I am doing wrong with this DirectX 9.0c component ?
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Mike,

I am glad you fixed the problem. :-)

Thanks for posting the results here, in NG!

--
Regards,
KM, BSquare Corp.


> Hi KM !
>
> I found the problem !!!!!! ouf
>
> The problem was about 2 components : VIA CPU to AGP Controller and VIA/S3G
> Unichrome Graphics.
> With the XP Pro Install on my target device (VIA EPI MII MiniITX) the
> tap.exe gave me : CPU to AGP Controller component (version 5.1.00.0230) and
> VIA/S3G Unichrome Graphics components. VIA embedded site gave me CPU to AGP
> Controller version 5.1.0.3442 and VIA/S3G Unichrome Graphics components.
>
> In my image I used the CPU to AGP Control version 5.1.0.3442 instead of
> 5.1.00.230 and it was for this reason that when I have installed the VIA/S3G
> CLE 266, VMR9 gave me same result as before : CPU occupation very high for
> small rendering resolution.
> I tried to use the CPU to AGP Controller v 5.1.00.230 and install the
> VIA/S3G CLE 266 driver instead of those gave me by VIA Embedded site for XPe
> and now the VMR9 works fine !!! cooooooool
>
> So you're right when you say "You can't trust nobody's word on this" ;o)
>
> More, now I know too that the missing dll that appear in the DXDiag
> application come from Direct Music components (performance, scripting ...).
> I do not need them and they are not linked to the VMR.
>
> thanks a lot for your help KM !
> Mike
>
>
> "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Mike,
> >
> >> I am pretty sure that my video driver works properly. I am working on a
> >> VIA
> >> EPIA MiniITX motherboard. VIA gives all necessary XP drivers and XPe
> >> driver
> >> components for his card. So when I install an XP Pro with the XP VGA
> >> Driver
> >
> > Well.. You can't trust nobody's word on this. You have to check if the
> > driver got installed on *your* image.
> > Use Device Manager or devcon to check the driver status.
> > After all, you always have SetupApi.log to see if there were any problems
> > instaling the driver.
> >
> >> and DirectX 9.0c, the VMR9 filter works well. If I install the same vga
> >> driver on an XPe install with directx 9.0c embedded component, I have
> >> problems when using the VMR9 filter.
> >> Maybe there's a problem with the XPe vga driver component but I don't
> >> think
> >> so because if I use the VMR7 instead of the VMR9, my applications works
> >> very
> >> well (except for missed VMR9 functionalities).
> >>
> >> I tried to not include the DX9.0c component in my image and then install
> >> it
> >> after fba but I did not succeed in.
> >
> > Errors? Then you might have not included all the required dependencies.
> >
> >> I have noticed something else : some components are missing. In the
> >> DX9.0c
> >> macro component I have include all components except the Direct VB.
> >> I join a screenshot. Could you tell me if my directx components version
> >> are correct ?
> >
> > I think that should be easier for you to auto-resolve all the DX macro
> > component dependencies and give it a try rahter than trying
> > to fix the issue with so many dx binaries missing.
> >
> >> (I did not apply the registry changes for the version number yet)
> >
> > Sorry, can't give you any good hint here until you include all the
> > dependencies of the DX components.
> >
> > KM
> >
> >> "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Mike,
> >> >
> >> > I recall a thread where the problem with DX 9.0c component version was
> >> > reported. MS folks posted some reg.changes that were supposed
> >> > to fix that.
> >> > Here we go:
> >> >
> >
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...79af1a5ae3736d
> >> >
> >> > Also, check if your video driver got installed and working properly.
> >> >
> >> > KM
> >> >
> >> >> Hi !
> >> >>
> >> >> I build my image with the directx 9.0c component. When I run dxdiag, I
> >> >> can
> >> >> see the DirectX Version : 9.0b.
> >> >>
> >> >> The problem is that the performances are very bad on my target device
> >> >> when I
> >> >> use the VMR 9 with a screen depth of 16 bits.
> >> >>
> >> >> I tried to install an XP Pro with the DirectX 9.0c and it works well
> >> >> (good
> >> >> perfs) in 16 bits or 32 bits. So the problem do not come from my
> >> >> target
> >> >> devices.
> >> >> I tried to install, on my xpe image, all the same drivers as I have on
> >> >> the
> >> >> xp pro install, but the problem persists.
> >> >>
> >> >> In conclusion, I think the bad performances come from the DirectX 9.0c
> >> >> component.
> >> >> I will try to rebuild my image without DirectX 9 and then install it
> >> >> after...
> >> >>
> >> >> What I am doing wrong with this DirectX 9.0c component ?
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Hi Mike,

I'm sorry that my question about whether your GART driver is working or not did not passed to NG :-(
GART driver missing problem is very common and I think that we all at least once forgot this driver and wondered why video
performances are so bad.
Anyhow I'm glad that you have figured it out.

Regards,
Slobodan



"Mike@Nestor" <michael@nestor-techdotcom> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi KM !
>
> I found the problem !!!!!! ouf
>
> The problem was about 2 components : VIA CPU to AGP Controller and VIA/S3G
> Unichrome Graphics.
> With the XP Pro Install on my target device (VIA EPI MII MiniITX) the
> tap.exe gave me : CPU to AGP Controller component (version 5.1.00.0230) and
> VIA/S3G Unichrome Graphics components. VIA embedded site gave me CPU to AGP
> Controller version 5.1.0.3442 and VIA/S3G Unichrome Graphics components.
>
> In my image I used the CPU to AGP Control version 5.1.0.3442 instead of
> 5.1.00.230 and it was for this reason that when I have installed the VIA/S3G
> CLE 266, VMR9 gave me same result as before : CPU occupation very high for
> small rendering resolution.
> I tried to use the CPU to AGP Controller v 5.1.00.230 and install the
> VIA/S3G CLE 266 driver instead of those gave me by VIA Embedded site for XPe
> and now the VMR9 works fine !!! cooooooool
>
> So you're right when you say "You can't trust nobody's word on this" ;o)
>
> More, now I know too that the missing dll that appear in the DXDiag
> application come from Direct Music components (performance, scripting ...).
> I do not need them and they are not linked to the VMR.
>
> thanks a lot for your help KM !
> Mike
>
>
> "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Mike,
> >
> >> I am pretty sure that my video driver works properly. I am working on a
> >> VIA
> >> EPIA MiniITX motherboard. VIA gives all necessary XP drivers and XPe
> >> driver
> >> components for his card. So when I install an XP Pro with the XP VGA
> >> Driver
> >
> > Well.. You can't trust nobody's word on this. You have to check if the
> > driver got installed on *your* image.
> > Use Device Manager or devcon to check the driver status.
> > After all, you always have SetupApi.log to see if there were any problems
> > instaling the driver.
> >
> >> and DirectX 9.0c, the VMR9 filter works well. If I install the same vga
> >> driver on an XPe install with directx 9.0c embedded component, I have
> >> problems when using the VMR9 filter.
> >> Maybe there's a problem with the XPe vga driver component but I don't
> >> think
> >> so because if I use the VMR7 instead of the VMR9, my applications works
> >> very
> >> well (except for missed VMR9 functionalities).
> >>
> >> I tried to not include the DX9.0c component in my image and then install
> >> it
> >> after fba but I did not succeed in.
> >
> > Errors? Then you might have not included all the required dependencies.
> >
> >> I have noticed something else : some components are missing. In the
> >> DX9.0c
> >> macro component I have include all components except the Direct VB.
> >> I join a screenshot. Could you tell me if my directx components version
> >> are correct ?
> >
> > I think that should be easier for you to auto-resolve all the DX macro
> > component dependencies and give it a try rahter than trying
> > to fix the issue with so many dx binaries missing.
> >
> >> (I did not apply the registry changes for the version number yet)
> >
> > Sorry, can't give you any good hint here until you include all the
> > dependencies of the DX components.
> >
> > KM
> >
> >> "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Mike,
> >> >
> >> > I recall a thread where the problem with DX 9.0c component version was
> >> > reported. MS folks posted some reg.changes that were supposed
> >> > to fix that.
> >> > Here we go:
> >> >
> >
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...79af1a5ae3736d
> >> >
> >> > Also, check if your video driver got installed and working properly.
> >> >
> >> > KM
> >> >
> >> >> Hi !
> >> >>
> >> >> I build my image with the directx 9.0c component. When I run dxdiag, I
> >> >> can
> >> >> see the DirectX Version : 9.0b.
> >> >>
> >> >> The problem is that the performances are very bad on my target device
> >> >> when I
> >> >> use the VMR 9 with a screen depth of 16 bits.
> >> >>
> >> >> I tried to install an XP Pro with the DirectX 9.0c and it works well
> >> >> (good
> >> >> perfs) in 16 bits or 32 bits. So the problem do not come from my
> >> >> target
> >> >> devices.
> >> >> I tried to install, on my xpe image, all the same drivers as I have on
> >> >> the
> >> >> xp pro install, but the problem persists.
> >> >>
> >> >> In conclusion, I think the bad performances come from the DirectX 9.0c
> >> >> component.
> >> >> I will try to rebuild my image without DirectX 9 and then install it
> >> >> after...
> >> >>
> >> >> What I am doing wrong with this DirectX 9.0c component ?
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Hi Slobodan,

it does not matter if your question about GART has not passed to NG...
I will think about GART driver for the future
thanks

Mike

"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm sorry that my question about whether your GART driver is working or
> not did not passed to NG :-(
> GART driver missing problem is very common and I think that we all at
> least once forgot this driver and wondered why video
> performances are so bad.
> Anyhow I'm glad that you have figured it out.
>
> Regards,
> Slobodan
>
>
>
> "Mike@Nestor" <michael@nestor-techdotcom> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi KM !
>>
>> I found the problem !!!!!! ouf
>>
>> The problem was about 2 components : VIA CPU to AGP Controller and
>> VIA/S3G
>> Unichrome Graphics.
>> With the XP Pro Install on my target device (VIA EPI MII MiniITX) the
>> tap.exe gave me : CPU to AGP Controller component (version 5.1.00.0230)
>> and
>> VIA/S3G Unichrome Graphics components. VIA embedded site gave me CPU to
>> AGP
>> Controller version 5.1.0.3442 and VIA/S3G Unichrome Graphics components.
>>
>> In my image I used the CPU to AGP Control version 5.1.0.3442 instead of
>> 5.1.00.230 and it was for this reason that when I have installed the
>> VIA/S3G
>> CLE 266, VMR9 gave me same result as before : CPU occupation very high
>> for
>> small rendering resolution.
>> I tried to use the CPU to AGP Controller v 5.1.00.230 and install the
>> VIA/S3G CLE 266 driver instead of those gave me by VIA Embedded site for
>> XPe
>> and now the VMR9 works fine !!! cooooooool
>>
>> So you're right when you say "You can't trust nobody's word on this" ;o)
>>
>> More, now I know too that the missing dll that appear in the DXDiag
>> application come from Direct Music components (performance, scripting
>> ...).
>> I do not need them and they are not linked to the VMR.
>>
>> thanks a lot for your help KM !
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> >> I am pretty sure that my video driver works properly. I am working on
>> >> a
>> >> VIA
>> >> EPIA MiniITX motherboard. VIA gives all necessary XP drivers and XPe
>> >> driver
>> >> components for his card. So when I install an XP Pro with the XP VGA
>> >> Driver
>> >
>> > Well.. You can't trust nobody's word on this. You have to check if the
>> > driver got installed on *your* image.
>> > Use Device Manager or devcon to check the driver status.
>> > After all, you always have SetupApi.log to see if there were any
>> > problems
>> > instaling the driver.
>> >
>> >> and DirectX 9.0c, the VMR9 filter works well. If I install the same
>> >> vga
>> >> driver on an XPe install with directx 9.0c embedded component, I have
>> >> problems when using the VMR9 filter.
>> >> Maybe there's a problem with the XPe vga driver component but I don't
>> >> think
>> >> so because if I use the VMR7 instead of the VMR9, my applications
>> >> works
>> >> very
>> >> well (except for missed VMR9 functionalities).
>> >>
>> >> I tried to not include the DX9.0c component in my image and then
>> >> install
>> >> it
>> >> after fba but I did not succeed in.
>> >
>> > Errors? Then you might have not included all the required dependencies.
>> >
>> >> I have noticed something else : some components are missing. In the
>> >> DX9.0c
>> >> macro component I have include all components except the Direct VB.
>> >> I join a screenshot. Could you tell me if my directx components
>> >> version
>> >> are correct ?
>> >
>> > I think that should be easier for you to auto-resolve all the DX macro
>> > component dependencies and give it a try rahter than trying
>> > to fix the issue with so many dx binaries missing.
>> >
>> >> (I did not apply the registry changes for the version number yet)
>> >
>> > Sorry, can't give you any good hint here until you include all the
>> > dependencies of the DX components.
>> >
>> > KM
>> >
>> >> "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Mike,
>> >> >
>> >> > I recall a thread where the problem with DX 9.0c component version
>> >> > was
>> >> > reported. MS folks posted some reg.changes that were supposed
>> >> > to fix that.
>> >> > Here we go:
>> >> >
>> >
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...79af1a5ae3736d
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, check if your video driver got installed and working properly.
>> >> >
>> >> > KM
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi !
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I build my image with the directx 9.0c component. When I run
>> >> >> dxdiag, I
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> see the DirectX Version : 9.0b.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The problem is that the performances are very bad on my target
>> >> >> device
>> >> >> when I
>> >> >> use the VMR 9 with a screen depth of 16 bits.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I tried to install an XP Pro with the DirectX 9.0c and it works
>> >> >> well
>> >> >> (good
>> >> >> perfs) in 16 bits or 32 bits. So the problem do not come from my
>> >> >> target
>> >> >> devices.
>> >> >> I tried to install, on my xpe image, all the same drivers as I have
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> xp pro install, but the problem persists.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In conclusion, I think the bad performances come from the DirectX
>> >> >> 9.0c
>> >> >> component.
>> >> >> I will try to rebuild my image without DirectX 9 and then install
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> after...
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>> >> >> What I am doing wrong with this DirectX 9.0c component ?
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>> >> >> thanks
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