Apparently my video card (GeForce 7950GT) has DVI-I output connectors.
It has four extra pins that the monitor connection apparently does not
have. The cable provided with the monitor will come without those four
pins on either end, and it fits the video card anyway? Thanks.





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John Doe wrote:
> Apparently my video card (GeForce 7950GT) has DVI-I output connectors.
> It has four extra pins that the monitor connection apparently does not
> have. The cable provided with the monitor will come without those four
> pins on either end, and it fits the video card anyway? Thanks.
>

If the manufacturer is providing a cable, then you'd know their
end of the solution would work. Your video card probably has a DVI-I
female on it, so is bound to accept either kind of cable offered to
it (DVI-I or DVI-D).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

There are probably a few designs out there for video out,
using DVI-D connectors instead of DVI-I. In that case, you'd
have to be more careful when buying cables.

And cables don't always come with monitors now. Double check
the "box contents" information, to make sure you're actually
getting a cable. They'll do anything they can, to save a buck.

Paul

Paul <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> John Doe wrote:

>> Apparently my video card (GeForce 7950GT) has DVI-I output
>> connectors. It has four extra pins that the monitor connection
>> apparently does not have. The cable provided with the monitor
>> will come without those four pins on either end, and it fits the
>> video card anyway? Thanks.
>>
>
> If the manufacturer is providing a cable, then you'd know their
> end of the solution would work. Your video card probably has a
> DVI-I female on it, so is bound to accept either kind of cable
> offered to it (DVI-I or DVI-D).

That's what I figured.

> http://en.wiki-doo-doo...
>
> And cables don't always come with monitors now. Double check
> the "box contents" information, to make sure you're actually
> getting a cable. They'll do anything they can, to save a buck.

The T260HD is not supposed to, but apparently it does.

So... how is your new SSD coming along, Paul?
Keep up boy!

John Doe wrote:
> Paul <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> John Doe wrote:
>
>>> Apparently my video card (GeForce 7950GT) has DVI-I output
>>> connectors. It has four extra pins that the monitor connection
>>> apparently does not have. The cable provided with the monitor
>>> will come without those four pins on either end, and it fits the
>>> video card anyway? Thanks.
>>>
>> If the manufacturer is providing a cable, then you'd know their
>> end of the solution would work. Your video card probably has a
>> DVI-I female on it, so is bound to accept either kind of cable
>> offered to it (DVI-I or DVI-D).
>
> That's what I figured.
>
>> http://en.wiki-doo-doo...
>>
>> And cables don't always come with monitors now. Double check
>> the "box contents" information, to make sure you're actually
>> getting a cable. They'll do anything they can, to save a buck.
>
> The T260HD is not supposed to, but apparently it does.
>
> So... how is your new SSD coming along, Paul?
> Keep up boy!

When a guy buys a $70 motherboard for a computer upgrade,
you know he doesn't have any money left for SSD's :-)

You should see the car I drive. If you ride with me, you
have to sign a waiver, before you can ride in the passenger
seat :-)

Paul

I followed the idea (I seem to recall you mentioning/agreeing) of a
wide monitor instead of multiple monitors. The T260HD (made in China,
darn) has a strange viewing angle limit. If you are close enough to use
the whole screen to its maximum benefit, close enough to see lots of
small text, the upper portion of the screen is noticeably darker. They
say your eye position should be at a level just higher than the top of
the screen, and if that is related to the viewing angle situation, that
is just weird IMO. Why would they make a monitor that requires viewing
from an angle? If you were doing artwork, viewing the screen from
close-up, you would need to angle the monitor downwards at roughly 30°.
Maybe it has something to do with the design of the monitor stand... a
short monitor stand with limited upwards tilting ability... so they
designed the monitor to make up for that (kidding, hopefully).

John Doe wrote:
> I followed the idea (I seem to recall you mentioning/agreeing) of a
> wide monitor instead of multiple monitors. The T260HD (made in China,
> darn) has a strange viewing angle limit. If you are close enough to use
> the whole screen to its maximum benefit, close enough to see lots of
> small text, the upper portion of the screen is noticeably darker. They
> say your eye position should be at a level just higher than the top of
> the screen, and if that is related to the viewing angle situation, that
> is just weird IMO. Why would they make a monitor that requires viewing
> from an angle? If you were doing artwork, viewing the screen from
> close-up, you would need to angle the monitor downwards at roughly 30°.
> Maybe it has something to do with the design of the monitor stand... a
> short monitor stand with limited upwards tilting ability... so they
> designed the monitor to make up for that (kidding, hopefully).

I hope you have the option to return it. If I spent $400 on a
screen, I'd want to be happy with it.

Your panel type is TN. There are panel types with better viewing angles.

This product offers 178° horizontal and 178° vertical. The threshold
would be something like a 5:1 intensity ratio (that is how much
it can darken at 178°).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824002458

Here is a 24" product with a wide viewing angle (and a price to match).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824002349

Wikipedia has an article on LCD panels, but it doesn't give very
good comparative charts. It would be interesting to have a table
of viewing angle, response time and the like, so you can pick something
out for Photoshop, or a different product for gaming.

I checked the specs on my monitor, and my panel must be TN as well. Yet,
I can't complain about darkening on this monitor. A little head shift
isn't that bad. I can slouch in my chair, without worrying about some
part of the screen going dark. (I checked the receipt, and my monitor
is now six years old - the backlight still works :-) )

I believe in personal shopping for monitors. I spent about two weeks,
picking the best monitor I could find locally. Ordering online and
shipping back garbage, is a risky proposition. And judging by the
uniformly bad selection I can find locally now, I'd say the odds of
hitting a good product by accident, are slim indeed.

I especially like the products I can find, where the reflective front
surface of the product is filled with "ripples". Almost like the
monitor was exposed to heat, on the way to North America.

Paul

Paul <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

....

> I hope you have the option to return it. If I spent $400 on a
> screen, I'd want to be happy with it.

It's awful... Maximizing a window makes it too big now.

> Your panel type is TN. There are panel types with better viewing angles.

> Here is a 24" product with a wide viewing angle (and a price to match).
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824002349

Yeah, the price for better viewing angles is high and probably very
closely proportional to screen size.

> I checked the specs on my monitor, and my panel must be TN as well. Yet,
> I can't complain about darkening on this monitor. A little head shift
> isn't that bad. I can slouch in my chair, without worrying about some
> part of the screen going dark. (I checked the receipt, and my monitor
> is now six years old - the backlight still works :-) )

At night, the brightness on mine will probably be set about 20%.

Black is definitely not black like my prior CRT monitor. The colors
are not as rich either (the ViewSonic PF790 displayed exceptionally
vivid colors). But the CRT weighed a ton. This LCD is much more
versatile as part of my home built computer area on its custom
monitor stand/hang.

> I believe in personal shopping for monitors.

I have absolute unwavering trust in the opinions provided in this
group (haha, slight exaggeration).

> I spent about two weeks, picking the best monitor I could find
> locally. Ordering online and shipping back garbage, is a risky
> proposition. And judging by the uniformly bad selection I can find
> locally now, I'd say the odds of hitting a good product by
> accident, are slim indeed.

lol
You pay your money and you take your chance.

> I especially like the products I can find, where the reflective front
> surface of the product is filled with "ripples". Almost like the
> monitor was exposed to heat, on the way to North America.

Hmm.



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On Sun, 10 May 2009 05:15:03 GMT, John Doe <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>> I checked the specs on my monitor, and my panel must be TN as well. Yet,
>> I can't complain about darkening on this monitor. A little head shift
>> isn't that bad. I can slouch in my chair, without worrying about some
>> part of the screen going dark. (I checked the receipt, and my monitor
>> is now six years old - the backlight still works :-) )
>
> At night, the brightness on mine will probably be set about 20%.
>
> Black is definitely not black like my prior CRT monitor. The colors
> are not as rich either

That's another problems with TN panels.

Hello,

On Sun, 10 May 2009 07:47:10 +0200, Ken <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Sun, 10 May 2009 05:15:03 GMT, John Doe <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>> I checked the specs on my monitor, and my panel must be TN as well. Yet,
>>> I can't complain about darkening on this monitor. A little head shift
>>> isn't that bad. I can slouch in my chair, without worrying about some
>>> part of the screen going dark. (I checked the receipt, and my monitor
>>> is now six years old - the backlight still works :-) )
>>
>> At night, the brightness on mine will probably be set about 20%.
>>
>> Black is definitely not black like my prior CRT monitor. The colors
>> are not as rich either
>
>That's another problems with TN panels.
>
And not only with them... my monitor has a s-mva (or s-pva) panel and
also cannot produce real black. What seems to be black while using the
monitor appears to have been dark grey with a bit of purple after
switching out the computer: only *then* you see a screen that is
totally black, what a difference! :-)

Massimo