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What is the difference between Domain Admins with that of granting Full Controll to a user to the entire Domain?

 
 
Jason
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      11th Nov 2004
Hi, my 2 stupid questions here :
1) What is the difference between adding someone to the Domain Admins group
with that of granting ( delegating ) Full Controll to a user to the entire
Active Directory Domain?

2) What is the difference between adding someone to the built-in
Administrators group with that of granting ( delegating ) Full Controll to a
user to the entire Domain's Active Directory ?

Any help appreciated.



Jason




 
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Anthony Yates
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      12th Nov 2004
Delegating control in Active Directory gives control of the _object_ in
active directory only. For example, if you have control of a computer
object, you can do things with it in AD like change the description or
disable the machine account. However it does not make you an administrator
of the actual server (as distinct from the server object in AD), so you
can't for example install software on the server or shut it down. You might
want someone to administer user accounts and group, without managing
servers.

Conversely you can be an administrator of the server, but have no rights to
the server object in Active Directory, so not be able to make the server a
member of a group, or apply a group policy.

There is an overlap because some operations require rights on the server as
well as rights in Active Directory. For example if you create a DFS share,
you need to be an administrator of the server to create the share, and have
the rights in AD to create the dfs object.

Domain Administrators is a special case, because it is a built-in group
created to automatically have full control of everything. It has full rights
in AD, and is automatically a member of the Local Administrators group on
servers and PC's. It gets round the need to know exactly what rights are
required. However it is a bad idea to use the Domain Administrators group to
get round knowing what rights are required. For example, you might want to
give some people Full Control of an OU, and make them members of the local
administrator group on PC's and servers in it. They could then do nearly
everything in the domain, but not quite everything. You would still retain
ultimate control of the domain, including control of who has these rights.

The Builtin groups in Active Directory, including Administrators, are a
special case because you need to be able to give some rights to work on the
domain controllers, without having ultimate control of the domain.

All in all, unlike Windows NT, W2K gives much more precise control of who
can do what.
Anthony


"Jason" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi, my 2 stupid questions here :
> 1) What is the difference between adding someone to the Domain Admins

group
> with that of granting ( delegating ) Full Controll to a user to the entire
> Active Directory Domain?
>
> 2) What is the difference between adding someone to the built-in
> Administrators group with that of granting ( delegating ) Full Controll to

a
> user to the entire Domain's Active Directory ?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
>



 
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Jason
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      12th Nov 2004
THANKS Anthony !!! You are GREAT !

"Anthony Yates" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Delegating control in Active Directory gives control of the _object_ in
> active directory only. For example, if you have control of a computer
> object, you can do things with it in AD like change the description or
> disable the machine account. However it does not make you an administrator
> of the actual server (as distinct from the server object in AD), so you
> can't for example install software on the server or shut it down. You

might
> want someone to administer user accounts and group, without managing
> servers.
>
> Conversely you can be an administrator of the server, but have no rights

to
> the server object in Active Directory, so not be able to make the server a
> member of a group, or apply a group policy.
>
> There is an overlap because some operations require rights on the server

as
> well as rights in Active Directory. For example if you create a DFS share,
> you need to be an administrator of the server to create the share, and

have
> the rights in AD to create the dfs object.
>
> Domain Administrators is a special case, because it is a built-in group
> created to automatically have full control of everything. It has full

rights
> in AD, and is automatically a member of the Local Administrators group on
> servers and PC's. It gets round the need to know exactly what rights are
> required. However it is a bad idea to use the Domain Administrators group

to
> get round knowing what rights are required. For example, you might want to
> give some people Full Control of an OU, and make them members of the local
> administrator group on PC's and servers in it. They could then do nearly
> everything in the domain, but not quite everything. You would still retain
> ultimate control of the domain, including control of who has these rights.
>
> The Builtin groups in Active Directory, including Administrators, are a
> special case because you need to be able to give some rights to work on

the
> domain controllers, without having ultimate control of the domain.
>
> All in all, unlike Windows NT, W2K gives much more precise control of who
> can do what.
> Anthony
>
>
> "Jason" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi, my 2 stupid questions here :
> > 1) What is the difference between adding someone to the Domain Admins

> group
> > with that of granting ( delegating ) Full Controll to a user to the

entire
> > Active Directory Domain?
> >
> > 2) What is the difference between adding someone to the built-in
> > Administrators group with that of granting ( delegating ) Full Controll

to
> a
> > user to the entire Domain's Active Directory ?
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>



 
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