I set up my first email address in Windows Mail, then I set up my second
email address. I went to switch form one to the other, but I can only get to
the first email address. When I go to "accounts" it says they are both
there, but I cannot check the second email address because Windows Mail has
eliminated "identities," so how can I check the email for the second email
address and my other two email address that I have yet to add? Please don't
tell me that I have to create separate user accounts for each of MY email
addresses. I'm the only one that uses this laptop. I have several email
addresses for different purposes. It would be inconvenient, not to mention
ridiculous to have to switch every time I need to check my email.

I guess if there is no good answer for my first question, my second question
is -- can uninstall Windows Mail and install Outlook Express with Vista?

Thanks,
Dusty

(Posted to windows.vista.general before I found this mail specific group.
Sorry for the cross post. I thought it would be best answered here. Thanks!)

"DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I set up my first email address in Windows Mail, then I set up my second
>email address. I went to switch form one to the other, but I can only get
>to the first email address. When I go to "accounts" it says they are both
>there, but I cannot check the second email address because Windows Mail has
>eliminated "identities," so how can I check the email for the second email
>address and my other two email address that I have yet to add? Please don't
>tell me that I have to create separate user accounts for each of MY email
>addresses. I'm the only one that uses this laptop. I have several email
>addresses for different purposes. It would be inconvenient, not to mention
>ridiculous to have to switch every time I need to check my email.
>
> I guess if there is no good answer for my first question, my second
> question is -- can uninstall Windows Mail and install Outlook Express with
> Vista?
>
> Thanks,
> Dusty
>
> (Posted to windows.vista.general before I found this mail specific group.
> Sorry for the cross post. I thought it would be best answered here.
> Thanks!)
No, Outlook Express won't work under Vista and Windows Mail won't
uninstall. However, I think there is a new program called Windows Live Mail
that's closer to what you want.

Thanks, I guess I'll have to look into Windows Live Mail. What on earth was
wrong with Outlook Express that they had to remove all of it's useful
functions and not really improve any of the other functions? It seems to me
that instead of an upgrade, Windows Mail is a step backwards. Bummer.

Thanks again,
Dusty


<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uov%23%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I set up my first email address in Windows Mail, then I set up my second
>>email address. I went to switch form one to the other, but I can only get
>>to the first email address. When I go to "accounts" it says they are both
>>there, but I cannot check the second email address because Windows Mail
>>has eliminated "identities," so how can I check the email for the second
>>email address and my other two email address that I have yet to add?
>>Please don't tell me that I have to create separate user accounts for each
>>of MY email addresses. I'm the only one that uses this laptop. I have
>>several email addresses for different purposes. It would be inconvenient,
>>not to mention ridiculous to have to switch every time I need to check my
>>email.
>>
>> I guess if there is no good answer for my first question, my second
>> question is -- can uninstall Windows Mail and install Outlook Express
>> with Vista?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dusty
>>
>> (Posted to windows.vista.general before I found this mail specific group.
>> Sorry for the cross post. I thought it would be best answered here.
>> Thanks!)
> No, Outlook Express won't work under Vista and Windows Mail won't
> uninstall. However, I think there is a new program called Windows Live
> Mail
> that's closer to what you want.
>

When Windows Mail checks or downloads mail, by default it does so
for all accounts. No switching necessary. If you don't want all
incoming mail mingled together in one Inbox, you have several options:

About the best you can do with just Windows Mail is to use
message rules to separate incoming email so that emails from
different accounts go into different inbox folders.

If you want the Identities feature back, there is an add-on option
(not free) which can be obtained here:
http://www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/

A third option is to upgrade to Windows Live Mail (WLM).
Although WLM doesn't have the full-blown Identities feature
that OE had, nevertheless it has some of that functionality.
Separate folders for each account help to keep mail separated
without having to use any message rules.
http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


"DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I set up my first email address in Windows Mail, then I set up my second
> email address. I went to switch form one to the other, but I can only get to
> the first email address. When I go to "accounts" it says they are both
> there, but I cannot check the second email address because Windows Mail has
> eliminated "identities," so how can I check the email for the second email
> address and my other two email address that I have yet to add? Please don't
> tell me that I have to create separate user accounts for each of MY email
> addresses. I'm the only one that uses this laptop. I have several email
> addresses for different purposes. It would be inconvenient, not to mention
> ridiculous to have to switch every time I need to check my email.
>
> I guess if there is no good answer for my first question, my second question
> is -- can uninstall Windows Mail and install Outlook Express with Vista?
>
> Thanks,
> Dusty
>
> (Posted to windows.vista.general before I found this mail specific group.
> Sorry for the cross post. I thought it would be best answered here. Thanks!)
>

Thanks for telling me my options. They are frustrating ones. It means that I
have to buy more software, or suffer the incontinences. Does anybody have an
explanation for why they took away the identity function in Windows Mail?

Thanks,
Dusty

"Gary VanderMolen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:O%236pT%(E-Mail Removed)...
> When Windows Mail checks or downloads mail, by default it does so
> for all accounts. No switching necessary. If you don't want all
> incoming mail mingled together in one Inbox, you have several options:
>
> About the best you can do with just Windows Mail is to use message rules
> to separate incoming email so that emails from
> different accounts go into different inbox folders.
>
> If you want the Identities feature back, there is an add-on option
> (not free) which can be obtained here:
> http://www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/
>
> A third option is to upgrade to Windows Live Mail (WLM).
> Although WLM doesn't have the full-blown Identities feature
> that OE had, nevertheless it has some of that functionality.
> Separate folders for each account help to keep mail separated
> without having to use any message rules.
> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
> --
> Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
>
>
> "DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I set up my first email address in Windows Mail, then I set up my second
>>email address. I went to switch form one to the other, but I can only get
>>to the first email address. When I go to "accounts" it says they are both
>>there, but I cannot check the second email address because Windows Mail
>>has eliminated "identities," so how can I check the email for the second
>>email address and my other two email address that I have yet to add?
>>Please don't tell me that I have to create separate user accounts for each
>>of MY email addresses. I'm the only one that uses this laptop. I have
>>several email addresses for different purposes. It would be inconvenient,
>>not to mention ridiculous to have to switch every time I need to check my
>>email.
>>
>> I guess if there is no good answer for my first question, my second
>> question is -- can uninstall Windows Mail and install Outlook Express
>> with Vista?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dusty
>>
>> (Posted to windows.vista.general before I found this mail specific group.
>> Sorry for the cross post. I thought it would be best answered here.
>> Thanks!)

LOL! I just read own my post and I'm peeing my pants laughing at how spell
check "fixed" my typo!!!

(Of course I meant "inconveniences" LOL!!!)

Cleaning up the puddle now,
Dusty

"DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for telling me my options. They are frustrating ones. It means that
> I have to buy more software, or suffer the incontinences. Does anybody
> have an explanation for why they took away the identity function in
> Windows Mail?
>
> Thanks,
> Dusty
>
>

Actually I enjoy a bit of hyperbole. It brightens up this otherwise
overly somber gathering. ;-)

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


"DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> LOL! I just read own my post and I'm peeing my pants laughing at how spell
> check "fixed" my typo!!!
>
> (Of course I meant "inconveniences" LOL!!!)
>
> Cleaning up the puddle now,
> Dusty
>
> "DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks for telling me my options. They are frustrating ones. It means that
>> I have to buy more software, or suffer the incontinences. Does anybody
>> have an explanation for why they took away the identity function in
>> Windows Mail?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dusty
>>
>>
>

Two of the three options are free.

As for the reason why Microsoft discontinued Identities,
I can give you Microsoft's official position (as I gleaned it
from their reps):
Identities were primarily used to give different users of the
same machine some email privacy. But, Identities gave users a false
sense of security, and Vista is all about real security. Even if the email
program or its Identities are password-protected, you're still leaving
sensitive non-email documents and pictures unprotected and
accessible to the other users of that same Windows user profile.
In addition, that other user (if savvy) can copy or read your emails
since they are plain text files. So, if your Windows user account has
*any* sensitive information, you should protect the whole thing with a
Windows user password, and give each user their own Windows profile.

This argument does not satisfy those who only used Identities for
convenience, such as to separate business and personal mail.
To them Microsoft would say, use Outlook or Windows Live Mail.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


"DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for telling me my options. They are frustrating ones. It means that I
> have to buy more software, or suffer the incontinences. Does anybody have an
> explanation for why they took away the identity function in Windows Mail?
>
> Thanks,
> Dusty
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:O%236pT%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> When Windows Mail checks or downloads mail, by default it does so
>> for all accounts. No switching necessary. If you don't want all
>> incoming mail mingled together in one Inbox, you have several options:
>>
>> About the best you can do with just Windows Mail is to use message rules
>> to separate incoming email so that emails from
>> different accounts go into different inbox folders.
>>
>> If you want the Identities feature back, there is an add-on option
>> (not free) which can be obtained here:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/
>>
>> A third option is to upgrade to Windows Live Mail (WLM).
>> Although WLM doesn't have the full-blown Identities feature
>> that OE had, nevertheless it has some of that functionality.
>> Separate folders for each account help to keep mail separated
>> without having to use any message rules.
>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
>>
>>
>> "DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I set up my first email address in Windows Mail, then I set up my second
>>>email address. I went to switch form one to the other, but I can only get
>>>to the first email address. When I go to "accounts" it says they are both
>>>there, but I cannot check the second email address because Windows Mail
>>>has eliminated "identities," so how can I check the email for the second
>>>email address and my other two email address that I have yet to add?
>>>Please don't tell me that I have to create separate user accounts for each
>>>of MY email addresses. I'm the only one that uses this laptop. I have
>>>several email addresses for different purposes. It would be inconvenient,
>>>not to mention ridiculous to have to switch every time I need to check my
>>>email.
>>>
>>> I guess if there is no good answer for my first question, my second
>>> question is -- can uninstall Windows Mail and install Outlook Express
>>> with Vista?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dusty
>>>
>>> (Posted to windows.vista.general before I found this mail specific group.
>>> Sorry for the cross post. I thought it would be best answered here.
>>> Thanks!)
>

"DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for telling me my options. They are frustrating ones. It means that
> I have to buy more software, or suffer the incontinences. Does anybody
> have an explanation for why they took away the identity function in
> Windows Mail?
>
> Thanks,
> Dusty
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:O%236pT%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> When Windows Mail checks or downloads mail, by default it does so
>> for all accounts. No switching necessary. If you don't want all
>> incoming mail mingled together in one Inbox, you have several options:
>>
>> About the best you can do with just Windows Mail is to use message rules
>> to separate incoming email so that emails from
>> different accounts go into different inbox folders.
>>
>> If you want the Identities feature back, there is an add-on option
>> (not free) which can be obtained here:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/
>>
>> A third option is to upgrade to Windows Live Mail (WLM).
>> Although WLM doesn't have the full-blown Identities feature
>> that OE had, nevertheless it has some of that functionality.
>> Separate folders for each account help to keep mail separated
>> without having to use any message rules.
>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
>>
>>
>> "DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I set up my first email address in Windows Mail, then I set up my second
>>>email address. I went to switch form one to the other, but I can only get
>>>to the first email address. When I go to "accounts" it says they are both
>>>there, but I cannot check the second email address because Windows Mail
>>>has eliminated "identities," so how can I check the email for the second
>>>email address and my other two email address that I have yet to add?
>>>Please don't tell me that I have to create separate user accounts for
>>>each of MY email addresses. I'm the only one that uses this laptop. I
>>>have several email addresses for different purposes. It would be
>>>inconvenient, not to mention ridiculous to have to switch every time I
>>>need to check my email.
>>>
>>> I guess if there is no good answer for my first question, my second
>>> question is -- can uninstall Windows Mail and install Outlook Express
>>> with Vista?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dusty
>>>
>>> (Posted to windows.vista.general before I found this mail specific
>>> group. Sorry for the cross post. I thought it would be best answered
>>> here. Thanks!)
>

No need to buy anything new. I use a message rule like this after creating
the folder:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the message is from the mail.fjsmjs.com account
Move it to the fjsmjs folder
and Stop processing more rules

The other possibility is to get Windows Live Mail (free), which puts the
mail from different accounts in different folders automatically.
http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas

--
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
www.fjsmjs.com
Do not send email

Dusty -- I'm having a similar problem. I have set up both accounts, but all
email is being downloaded into one primary account. If you look at the
account designated as the "primary" account, do you see mail addressed to
the second account? I'm trying to find out how to create two separate
accounts so I look at only my email messages. Any help out there?

Thanks, Avery

"DustyArt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I set up my first email address in Windows Mail, then I set up my second
>email address. I went to switch form one to the other, but I can only get
>to the first email address. When I go to "accounts" it says they are both
>there, but I cannot check the second email address because Windows Mail has
>eliminated "identities," so how can I check the email for the second email
>address and my other two email address that I have yet to add? Please don't
>tell me that I have to create separate user accounts for each of MY email
>addresses. I'm the only one that uses this laptop. I have several email
>addresses for different purposes. It would be inconvenient, not to mention
>ridiculous to have to switch every time I need to check my email.
>
> I guess if there is no good answer for my first question, my second
> question is -- can uninstall Windows Mail and install Outlook Express with
> Vista?
>
> Thanks,
> Dusty
>
> (Posted to windows.vista.general before I found this mail specific group.
> Sorry for the cross post. I thought it would be best answered here.
> Thanks!)