How do manufacture-supplied device drivers get installed? For
instance I have a SATA disk and have to use F6 each time I reinstall
Win2KP. But I don't see any file on the disk that appears concerned
with the disk. So where is the driver?

Stubby wrote:
> How do manufacture-supplied device drivers get installed? For
> instance I have a SATA disk and have to use F6 each time I reinstall
> Win2KP. But I don't see any file on the disk that appears concerned
> with the disk. So where is the driver?

They would usually be in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder.

John

If you had to F6 then they were on the floppy you used. Probably the files
named oemsetup.inf, txtsetup.oem, and the *.sys



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"Stubby wrote:
> How do manufacture-supplied device drivers get installed? For
> instance I have a SATA disk and have to use F6 each time I reinstall
> Win2KP. But I don't see any file on the disk that appears concerned
> with the disk. So where is the driver?

On Dec 25, 9:52*am, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
> Stubby wrote:
> > How do manufacture-supplied device drivers get installed? *For
> > instance I have a SATA disk and have to use F6 each time I reinstall
> > Win2KP. *But I don't see any file on the disk that appears concerned
> > with the disk. *So where is the driver?
>
> They would usually be in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder.
>
> John

Sure 'nuff. What are all those drivers, anyway? Is that just the
ones for my specific configuaration or will they allow running on most
PCs?

For years I've been trying to get rid of some Error Events in my log
related to ATI hardware being missing. It IS missing and I tried to
uninstall the software, but I get the same 4 events after every
restart. I noticed there are 4 drivers with names like ati****.sys --
can I just delete them?

Stubby wrote:
> On Dec 25, 9:52 am, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
>> Stubby wrote:
>>> How do manufacture-supplied device drivers get installed? For
>>> instance I have a SATA disk and have to use F6 each time I reinstall
>>> Win2KP. But I don't see any file on the disk that appears concerned
>>> with the disk. So where is the driver?
>> They would usually be in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder.
>>
>> John
>
> Sure 'nuff. What are all those drivers, anyway? Is that just the
> ones for my specific configuaration or will they allow running on most
> PCs?
>
> For years I've been trying to get rid of some Error Events in my log
> related to ATI hardware being missing. It IS missing and I tried to
> uninstall the software, but I get the same 4 events after every
> restart. I noticed there are 4 drivers with names like ati****.sys --
> can I just delete them?

Do you have ATI hardware still installed on the machine?

Don't delete any of the drivers in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder,
that may only exacerbate things. The drivers in the folder may or may
not be in use, it depends on the hardware configuration on your machine.
Unused drivers cause no problems when they are properly disabled or
removed from the registry.

If you are having errors about hardware that is no longer present on
your computer look for and remove phantom devices in the device manager
or look for the driver information in the registry at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services and remove the key
for the non existing hardware. Careful! Don't remove keys unless you
are certain that they are for truly non existing hardware drivers!

To find phantom or 'ghosted' devices see here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/241257
Device Manager Does Not Display Devices Not Currently Present in Windows
2000

It would be best if you posted the Event Log errors before deleting
registry keys, the errors could be caused by a variety of things.

John

Stubby wrote:

> For years I've been trying to get rid of some Error Events in my log
> related to ATI hardware being missing. It IS missing and I tried to
> uninstall the software, but I get the same 4 events after every
> restart. I noticed there are 4 drivers with names like ati****.sys --
> can I just delete them?

You could run msconfig and see if those drivers show up in the startup
tab (ati drivers usually do as I recall). You could uncheck them there
to make sure your system is stable without them (which would also
probably remove the log error events).

In the event that the system is unstable without those drivers, you
could boot in safe mode and re-check them in msconfig.

On Dec 27, 6:54*pm, Sid Elbow <h...@there.com> wrote:
> Stubby wrote:
> > For years I've been trying to get rid of some Error Events in my log
> > related to ATI hardware being missing. * It IS missing and I tried to
> > uninstall the software, but I get the same 4 events after every
> > restart. *I noticed there are 4 drivers with names like ati****.sys --
> > can I just delete them?
>
> You could run msconfig and see if those drivers show up in the startup
> tab (ati drivers usually do as I recall). You could uncheck them there
> to make sure your system is stable without them (which would also
> probably remove the log error events).
>
> In the event that the system is unstable without those drivers, you
> could boot in safe mode and re-check them in msconfig.

Good suggestion. However, none of the ATI drivers are listed in the
Startup tab.

On Dec 27, 11:50*am, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
> Stubby wrote:
> > On Dec 25, 9:52 am, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
> >> Stubby wrote:
> >>> How do manufacture-supplied device drivers get installed? *For
> >>> instance I have a SATA disk and have to use F6 each time I reinstall
> >>> Win2KP. *But I don't see any file on the disk that appears concerned
> >>> with the disk. *So where is the driver?
> >> They would usually be in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder.
>
> >> John
>
> > Sure 'nuff. * *What are all those drivers, anyway? * *Is that just the
> > ones for my specific configuaration or will they allow running on most
> > PCs?
>
> > For years I've been trying to get rid of some Error Events in my log
> > related to ATI hardware being missing. * It IS missing and I tried to
> > uninstall the software, but I get the same 4 events after every
> > restart. *I noticed there are 4 drivers with names like ati****.sys --
> > can I just delete them?
>
> Do you have ATI hardware still installed on the machine?
>
> Don't delete any of the drivers in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder,
> that may only exacerbate things. *The drivers in the folder may or may
> not be in use, it depends on the hardware configuration on your machine.
> * Unused drivers cause no problems when they are properly disabled or
> removed from the registry.
>
> If you are having errors about hardware that is no longer present on
> your computer look for and remove phantom devices in the device manager
> or look for the driver information in the registry at
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services and remove the key
> for the non existing hardware. *Careful! *Don't remove keys unless you
> are certain that they are for truly non existing hardware drivers!
>
> To find phantom or 'ghosted' devices see here:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/241257
> Device Manager Does Not Display Devices Not Currently Present in Windows
> 2000
>
> It would be best if you posted the Event Log errors before deleting
> registry keys, the errors could be caused by a variety of things.
>
> John- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sorry I forgot to post the actual ERROR event #7000:
The ATI TV Wonder Video Capture service failed to start due to the
following error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or
because it has no enabled
devices associated with it.

The same error is listed for the Audio Crossbar, Video Crossbar and TV
Tuner in addition.

Long ago I asked ATI for help in removing their stuff and they
responded with a "super uninstaller". It took out several things but
if I search the registry for things beginning with ATI, there are
plenty left.

Stubby wrote:
> On Dec 27, 11:50 am, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
>> Stubby wrote:
>>> On Dec 25, 9:52 am, John John - MVP <audetw...@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
>>>> Stubby wrote:
>>>>> How do manufacture-supplied device drivers get installed? For
>>>>> instance I have a SATA disk and have to use F6 each time I reinstall
>>>>> Win2KP. But I don't see any file on the disk that appears concerned
>>>>> with the disk. So where is the driver?
>>>> They would usually be in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder.
>>>> John
>>> Sure 'nuff. What are all those drivers, anyway? Is that just the
>>> ones for my specific configuaration or will they allow running on most
>>> PCs?
>>> For years I've been trying to get rid of some Error Events in my log
>>> related to ATI hardware being missing. It IS missing and I tried to
>>> uninstall the software, but I get the same 4 events after every
>>> restart. I noticed there are 4 drivers with names like ati****.sys --
>>> can I just delete them?
>> Do you have ATI hardware still installed on the machine?
>>
>> Don't delete any of the drivers in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder,
>> that may only exacerbate things. The drivers in the folder may or may
>> not be in use, it depends on the hardware configuration on your machine.
>> Unused drivers cause no problems when they are properly disabled or
>> removed from the registry.
>>
>> If you are having errors about hardware that is no longer present on
>> your computer look for and remove phantom devices in the device manager
>> or look for the driver information in the registry at
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services and remove the key
>> for the non existing hardware. Careful! Don't remove keys unless you
>> are certain that they are for truly non existing hardware drivers!
>>
>> To find phantom or 'ghosted' devices see here:
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/241257
>> Device Manager Does Not Display Devices Not Currently Present in Windows
>> 2000
>>
>> It would be best if you posted the Event Log errors before deleting
>> registry keys, the errors could be caused by a variety of things.
>>
>> John- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Sorry I forgot to post the actual ERROR event #7000:
> The ATI TV Wonder Video Capture service failed to start due to the
> following error:
> The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or
> because it has no enabled
> devices associated with it.
>
> The same error is listed for the Audio Crossbar, Video Crossbar and TV
> Tuner in addition.
>
> Long ago I asked ATI for help in removing their stuff and they
> responded with a "super uninstaller". It took out several things but
> if I search the registry for things beginning with ATI, there are
> plenty left.

To copy an event from the Event Log to your post open the event then
clip on the clipboard icon (below the arrow icons at the top right),
then you can paste the event to your replies.

These EventID 7000 errors are most likely caused by remaining ATI
entries in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services key.

John