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      17th Jul 2008

When I right mouse on the desktop and select "Properties",
it takes over 3 minutes for the Display Properties to appear.
It is not a right mouse context issue, as the same thing happens
when I run "control desk.cpl" from a shell, and also when I
execute "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3"
from a shell as well. Once the display properites appear,
selecting another tab takes several minutes to switch as
well. I am a bit stumped on this one. It would appear to
be an issue witn rundll32.exe, but I have not found
anything in google that is useful. Other than this one
issue, the system appears to be running at expected
performance and there are no viruses or spyware on
the system. Anyone out there ever seen this before ?

Thanks in advance !


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      17th Jul 2008
>When I right mouse on the desktop and select "Properties",
>it takes over 3 minutes for the Display Properties to appear.
>It is not a right mouse context issue, as the same thing happens
>when I run "control desk.cpl" from a shell, and also when I
>execute "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3"
>from a shell as well. Once the display properites appear,
>selecting another tab takes several minutes to switch as
>well. I am a bit stumped on this one. It would appear to
>be an issue witn rundll32.exe, but I have not found
>anything in google that is useful. Other than this one
>issue, the system appears to be running at expected
>performance and there are no viruses or spyware on
>the system. Anyone out there ever seen this before ?


I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere. How about some details on your
system: RAM, Processor Speed, VGA & Driver version, SP2 or SP3?

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      17th Jul 2008
What have you done so far? Memory size? Disk size? Programs running in the
background?
"TDM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> When I right mouse on the desktop and select "Properties",
> it takes over 3 minutes for the Display Properties to appear.
> It is not a right mouse context issue, as the same thing happens
> when I run "control desk.cpl" from a shell, and also when I
> execute "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3"
> from a shell as well. Once the display properites appear,
> selecting another tab takes several minutes to switch as
> well. I am a bit stumped on this one. It would appear to
> be an issue witn rundll32.exe, but I have not found
> anything in google that is useful. Other than this one
> issue, the system appears to be running at expected
> performance and there are no viruses or spyware on
> the system. Anyone out there ever seen this before ?
>
> Thanks in advance !
>
>
> TDM
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      17th Jul 2008

"Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message
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> I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere. How about some details on your
> system: RAM, Processor Speed, VGA & Driver version, SP2 or SP3?
>
> - Thee Chicago Wolf


System is an HP 8510W Laptop, 4GB of ram(I know, XP/32bit
will only see/use 3GB, I did not order the system), Windows XP-SP2,
Nvidia Graphics with the latest drivers installed from the HP site, could
not find the appropriate driver at Nvidia.com. The system is only
a few weeks old and this behavior appeared to start when drivers
were installed for a USB to Serial adapter. Did a system restore
back to before the drivers were installed(after removing the driver),
and that did not fix it. It is not my system, so I am going on someone
elses word for most of the details on recent changes to the system.
As a side note, I did a test of another Control Panel applet as
such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL access.cpl,,3"
and it came up instantly, but when I run the desktop applet
as such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3",
it takes 3+ minutes for the applet to appear.

One other odd thing, when booting, the user has a wallpaper
image that shows up early in the boot, then disappears a short
time later to just a blank blue background. It is like the Nvidia
drivers/managment has taken over somehow. I could try
un-installing the Nvidia drivers, but the user was not too
happy about doing that.

Thanks for the post.

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      17th Jul 2008
>> I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere. How about some details on your
>> system: RAM, Processor Speed, VGA & Driver version, SP2 or SP3?
>>
>> - Thee Chicago Wolf

>
>System is an HP 8510W Laptop, 4GB of ram(I know, XP/32bit
>will only see/use 3GB, I did not order the system), Windows XP-SP2,
>Nvidia Graphics with the latest drivers installed from the HP site, could
>not find the appropriate driver at Nvidia.com. The system is only
>a few weeks old and this behavior appeared to start when drivers
>were installed for a USB to Serial adapter. Did a system restore
>back to before the drivers were installed(after removing the driver),
>and that did not fix it. It is not my system, so I am going on someone
>elses word for most of the details on recent changes to the system.
>As a side note, I did a test of another Control Panel applet as
>such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL access.cpl,,3"
>and it came up instantly, but when I run the desktop applet
>as such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3",
>it takes 3+ minutes for the applet to appear.
>
>One other odd thing, when booting, the user has a wallpaper
>image that shows up early in the boot, then disappears a short
>time later to just a blank blue background. It is like the Nvidia
>drivers/managment has taken over somehow. I could try
>un-installing the Nvidia drivers, but the user was not too
>happy about doing that.
>
>Thanks for the post.
>
>TDM
>


Well, if the user doesn't object, SP3 might remedy this issue. If it's
a driver issue, updating to the current NVidia set from NVidia.com
might remedy it. Of course, these HP laptops sometimes need "HP"
specific drivers to the laptop and many times the manufacturers don't
like to update their drivers ever.

1) Try the updated NVidia driver first for sure.

2) If there's still an issue, you might try updating the DirectX to
the June Redistributable here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Knocking out the video and image related issues first will help narrow
down the issue.

3) If those two things fail, download and install the FULL SP3 update.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

You *CAN* squeeze more than 3GB RAM out of a 4GB machine but sometimes
it might only be a little bit more than 3GB (3.25GB). Try this:

Start > Settings > Control Panel > System > Advanced tab > Startup &
Recovery settings button > Edit button, add the following switch
option to whatever's there: /3GB. It should then something look like:

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /3GB /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

Check the memory before and after.

4) If this is an HP computer with and AMD processor, go grab the AMD
pre-SP3 update: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953356, install,
reboot, and try the full SP3 update.

Let me know how it goes.

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      17th Jul 2008
>System is an HP 8510W Laptop, 4GB of ram(I know, XP/32bit

These Quadra drivers should work:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...tem=ob-59656-1

March 2008 date, straight from HP.

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      17th Jul 2008

"Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message
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> >System is an HP 8510W Laptop, 4GB of ram(I know, XP/32bit

>
> These Quadra drivers should work:
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...tem=ob-59656-1
>
> March 2008 date, straight from HP.
>
> - Thee Chicago Wolf


I have already done this, and yes, you are correct, as I stated
before, I had to get the drivers from HP as Nvidia.com did
not have any compatible drivers.

I was thinking about SP3 as well, I will run it by the user and
see where that goes and post an update when I have one.
Generally, we are not supposed to install SP3 in our environment
until tested by the IT gods, but I have installed it a number of time
without issue, even via windows update !

Thanks for the post.


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      17th Jul 2008
>I have already done this, and yes, you are correct, as I stated
>before, I had to get the drivers from HP as Nvidia.com did
>not have any compatible drivers.
>
>I was thinking about SP3 as well, I will run it by the user and
>see where that goes and post an update when I have one.
>Generally, we are not supposed to install SP3 in our environment
>until tested by the IT gods, but I have installed it a number of time
>without issue, even via windows update !
>
>Thanks for the post.


Since this is an Intel machine and only a few weeks old, perhaps
install the Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility. SP2 is far
too old to recognize the chipset and CPU without the Intel chipset
drivers. You should see a lot better responsiveness afterwards. It
might be your issue after all.

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...4&submit=Go%21

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      17th Jul 2008
Try using both my Explorer Shell Fix tool and my Desktop Reset Tool.
Download them here http://pcbutts1.com/downloads/tools/tools.htm



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"TDM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message
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>>
>> I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere. How about some details on your
>> system: RAM, Processor Speed, VGA & Driver version, SP2 or SP3?
>>
>> - Thee Chicago Wolf

>
> System is an HP 8510W Laptop, 4GB of ram(I know, XP/32bit
> will only see/use 3GB, I did not order the system), Windows XP-SP2,
> Nvidia Graphics with the latest drivers installed from the HP site, could
> not find the appropriate driver at Nvidia.com. The system is only
> a few weeks old and this behavior appeared to start when drivers
> were installed for a USB to Serial adapter. Did a system restore
> back to before the drivers were installed(after removing the driver),
> and that did not fix it. It is not my system, so I am going on someone
> elses word for most of the details on recent changes to the system.
> As a side note, I did a test of another Control Panel applet as
> such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL access.cpl,,3"
> and it came up instantly, but when I run the desktop applet
> as such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3",
> it takes 3+ minutes for the applet to appear.
>
> One other odd thing, when booting, the user has a wallpaper
> image that shows up early in the boot, then disappears a short
> time later to just a blank blue background. It is like the Nvidia
> drivers/managment has taken over somehow. I could try
> un-installing the Nvidia drivers, but the user was not too
> happy about doing that.
>
> Thanks for the post.
>
> TDM
>


 
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      18th Jul 2008

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> Try using both my Explorer Shell Fix tool and my Desktop Reset Tool.
> Download them here http://pcbutts1.com/downloads/tools/tools.htm
>
>
>
> --
> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
>


I have already checked the ShellExec issue and it does not
apply to this situation. The only issue is with using the
control panel applet desk.cpl.

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